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Maryam 9

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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,059
    edited December 2023

    Yet another toon character.  While I have no problem with those, per se, as it seems to be one of the few things that Genesis 9 does well, it does reinforce my impression that G9 seems to become increasingly less realistic with each new DAZ Core figure release, while the number of PAs producing characters seems unlikely to ever reach the level for previous figures due to restrictions of the process. The clothing set included with this bundle might be useful, but they are also extremely similar, which isn't that appealing with the higher than average promotion price.  I'll wait to see if DAZ has an improved secondary sale tomorrow that takes it down into the mid-thirty dollar range where this Pro Bundle belongs, but at the moment it's an easy pass.

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,131
    edited November 2023

    She is quite good as a toon style. I will buy her sometime next year like the rest I've put on hold. Upgrading all this hardware and buying a bunch of new Unity packages costs a lot of money.

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  • BarubaryBarubary Posts: 1,211

    Well, Genesis 9 bends like a Max Fleischer Cartoon, I guess it makes sense for DAZ to focus on cartoon characters. Just firmly planting their flag in the uncanny valley.

    Which is a shame, because Maryam looks like a character that I might have liked and might have had a use for.

  • stelaristelari Posts: 80
    edited November 2023

    sarahwaitestx said:

    Does anyone who bought Maryam have a render with her eyes adjusted to be not so giant? I do like her nose and the rest of her face. I really think it's the eyes that are making it too toon for me.

    For anyone who has the Casual Hijab Outfit or the Modern Middle Eastern Outfit, how well do the hijabs work with shaders? The girls I know who wear hijabs often are very coordinated in terms of hijab + outfit, and I'd like to be able to use the hijabs with other stuff.

    Super quick attempt to make non-toon-sized eyes (just iris size/eye distance/eye scale tweaks, and minor rotation/direction changes to look less cross-eyed) renders attached. Also have two random fabric textures applied to the casual hijab, look ok, although no hems. (First render has zero other changes, second one has Marli's skin and eye mats).

    AlmightyQUEST said:

    These might be some of my favorite outfits in a G9 pro bundle since some of the launch ones. Can anyone confirm that dForce Modern Middle Eastern Outfit for Genesis 9 includes the scarf? From the add-on images it seems like it must, but doesn't seem to be listed in the description unless I'm missing something.

    Yes, comes with the scarf.

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  • AlmightyQUESTAlmightyQUEST Posts: 2,003

    Great, thanks for confirming!

  • ThorneThorne Posts: 169

    Maryam

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 101,002

    Cybersox said:

    ...while the number of PAs producing characters seems unlikely to ever reach the level for previous figures due to restrictions of the process....

    What do you mean here?

  • SolitarySandpiperSolitarySandpiper Posts: 566

    I think I'd like to have her dial but her mats are just so lacking... put more effort in to your characters please Daz.

  • Calliope23Calliope23 Posts: 531

    I got the Myra Hair from Maryam's pro bundle because I think it would make a cute hairstyle for the fairy I want to portray with Josie 9. It counted as a Debut New Release, allowing me to get a discount on some other items as well.

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-myra-hair-for-genesis-9

  • sarahwaitestxsarahwaitestx Posts: 82
    Super quick attempt to make non-toon-sized eyes (just iris size/eye distance/eye scale tweaks, and minor rotation/direction changes to look less cross-eyed) renders attached. Also have two random fabric textures applied to the casual hijab, look ok, although no hems. (First render has zero other changes, second one has Marli's skin and eye mats).

    Thank you! That looks fantastic.

  • ThorneThorne Posts: 169
    edited December 2023

    Maryam again

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  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,169

    Sorry Daz, but it feels like your just phoning it in now. The skin is entirely featureless and she looks like a toon. What's with the eyes...didn't anyone notice? Yeah, hard pass.

  • HylasHylas Posts: 4,988

    stelari said:
     

    Super quick attempt to make non-toon-sized eyes (just iris size/eye distance/eye scale tweaks, and minor rotation/direction changes to look less cross-eyed) renders attached. Also have two random fabric textures applied to the casual hijab, look ok, although no hems. (First render has zero other changes, second one has Marli's skin and eye mats).

    She looks great! But yeah, this reveals that her skin is indeed a bit lacking.

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 6,890
    edited December 2023

    Thorne said:

    Maryam

    Huh? Your character looks adorable (as usual) but nothing like the Maryam promo renders...

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  • HylasHylas Posts: 4,988
    I was thinking the same thing. Is it still Maryam in any meaningful way?
  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,458
    edited December 2023

    stelari said:

    Super quick attempt to make non-toon-sized eyes (just iris size/eye distance/eye scale tweaks, and minor rotation/direction changes to look less cross-eyed) renders attached. Also have two random fabric textures applied to the casual hijab, look ok, although no hems. (First render has zero other changes, second one has Marli's skin and eye mats).

    That's excellent; that's how she should have been made. Have you raised the nose bridge a little? I think it's a bit too low in the original.

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  • stelaristelari Posts: 80

    caravelle said:

    That's excellent; that's how she should have been made. Have you raised the nose bridge a little? I think it's a bit too low in the original.

    No, but reducing the eye distance probably made the upper bridge stand out a little more.

  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,458

    stelari said:

    caravelle said:

    That's excellent; that's how she should have been made. Have you raised the nose bridge a little? I think it's a bit too low in the original.

    No, but reducing the eye distance probably made the upper bridge stand out a little more.

    Oh yes, that could be the case. I would have reduced the eye distance too, but I don't have Maryam 9 yet. But it's good to see a successful adaptation; maybe she will find her way into my cart after all... ;-)

  • GoggerGogger Posts: 2,400

    I'm chuckling a little. I'm sitting here reading all the negative comments about her large eyes - erm, uh, the large eyes are WHY I bought her so quickly!  HA HA  Beauty is in the (normal-sized) eyes of the beholder. 

    Picture this in regards to some random new character:

    "AUGH!  What an AWFUL looking character!  Those eyes are so, <shudder> "NoRmAl-sized" - EW!  Hard pass!"

    We each like what we like. 

  • CricketCricket Posts: 460

    I really like the toon shape (last promo) but now it appears that is one of the soon to be vaulted add-on shapes only available with the pro bundle? If so, why is a promo for a morph not available with the base character included? And as much as I like the toon shape, no way am I paying $119 for the pro bundle just for that. Another sale lost because of this stupid, predatory marketing strategy of DAZ's.

  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679

    Wonderland said:

    Thorne said:

    Maryam

    Huh? Your character looks adorable (as usual) but nothing like the Maryam promo renders...

    Yeah...they are not even remotely similar. Different skin, different eye color, different eye shape, different lips, different nose, different brow shape, Maryam has a chin dimple...

    The girl on the left looks more like Aurora Fae for G8. She also looks more South East Asian than Middle Eastern.

  • TheKDTheKD Posts: 2,691

    Thorne said:

    Maryam

    Was confused why it looked like a thorne character, then I noticed who posted it lol

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,750

    TheKD said:

    Thorne said:

    Maryam

    Was confused why it looked like a thorne character, then I noticed who posted it lol

    I would really like to know how Thorne made Maryam look like this. Any chance you would share, @Thorne?  

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,062

    I'm not convinced Thorne DID make Maryam look like that. That looks like a Thorne character raided Maryam's closet.

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,750

    Gordig said:

    I'm not convinced Thorne DID make Maryam look like that. That looks like a Thorne character raided Maryam's closet.

    Huh, quite possibly you're right. But what does the post signify then? A new figure who is also called Maryam? Very confusing ...

  • ThorneThorne Posts: 169
    edited December 2023

    The images I posted were the original Maryam as I submitted her (sans textures in any case). Since this was purchased by DAZ they have the right to change it as they see fit. Maybe they will release the orginal shape. She always had the chin dimple, but I made some images without it in early development (I don't know if it is still optional or not).

    The texture used here is Helena by Maelwynn:  https://www.daz3d.com/mw-helena-for-genesis-9

     

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  • SolitarySandpiperSolitarySandpiper Posts: 566

    Thorne said:

    The images I posted were the original Maryam as I submitted her (sans textures in any case). Since this was purchased by DAZ they have the right to change it as they see fit. Maybe they will release the orginal shape. She always had the chin dimple, but I made some images without it in early development (I don't know if it is still optional or not).

    The texture used here is Helena by Maelwynn:  https://www.daz3d.com/mw-helena-for-genesis-9

     

    Thanks for the clarification... appreciate the insight.

  • HylasHylas Posts: 4,988

    Thanks for the interesting peak behind the curtains!

  • NewGuyNewGuy Posts: 182
    edited December 2023

    Thought I'd share some renders I tried out with Maryam 9... 

    Toon Style: 100% Maryam 9, 50% Stylized Skinny Girl, Maryam Texture with Cat Eye Makeup

    Realistic Style (First Try): 100% Maryam 9, 30% Kala 9, Eye Whole Size -80%, Eye Whole Width -25%, 200+ Eyelids Lower Height Middle -25%, 200+ Eyelids Upper Middle 50%, MSO Dola Skin Texture, Chevybabes Natural Eyes (7), PhilW Ultimate Makeup

    I might have to scale back the skin glossiness a bit...

     

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  • benniewoodellbenniewoodell Posts: 1,969

    NewGuy said:

    Thought I'd share some renders I tried out with Maryam 9... 

    Toon Style: 100% Maryam 9, 50% Stylized Skinny Girl, Maryam Texture with Cat Eye Makeup

    Realistic Style (First Try): 100% Maryam 9, 30% Kala 9, Eye Whole Size -80%, Eye Whole Width -25%, 200+ Eyelids Lower Height Middle -25%, 200+ Eyelids Upper Middle 50%, MSO Dola Skin Texture, Chevybabes Natural Eyes (7), PhilW Ultimate Makeup

    I might have to scale back the skin glossiness a bit...

    Ooohhhh I love the mix with stylized skinny girl! I'm picking that one up today, it's so nice to see that she mixes in wonderfully with other characters! 

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