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  • MoogeeMoogee Posts: 43

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    So, loaded G9 Mikey then set his head and body morphs to zero. The added the head and body morphs for the G9 Toon Adult male.

     

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  • necroscensionnecroscension Posts: 117
    edited November 14

    TheNathanParable said:

    Another experiment with using FilaToon on an older Poser figure, this time Himeko by BillyT!

    As much as I love how this model looks, her facial morphs are a bit difficult to use. I had to render this in two passes, one for each eye, due to the winking and eye movement morphs clashing.

    I'm very proud of the lighting in this one.

    https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/#gallery=all&sort=newest&page=1&image=1354659

    If you don't mind me asking, how did you get shadows from the hair and on the neck? Even with cast shadows turned on I do not get shadows from the hair nor on the neck. If you look at my Chibi-Bel image, I'd expect to see that and shadows from the skirt.

    Never mind... I've apparently been having issues with the deep map shadows on my lights, which appears to be working now. I would get no shadows when it or the other option was selected. Now to retry a couple of renders...

    Edit -- the Filament Atmosphere Blur product was the problem. I had used it on the Minion image, and what I've learned is if the subject is in the dome, the shadow type from the distant light works in reverse. I had to set the shadow type to None in order for the shadows to appear. Thought I'd throw that out there if someone else attempted the same thing and wonders why turning on the deep shadow maps appear to turn off the shadows.

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  • TheNathanParableTheNathanParable Posts: 1,045
    necroscension said:

    TheNathanParable said:

    Another experiment with using FilaToon on an older Poser figure, this time Himeko by BillyT!

    As much as I love how this model looks, her facial morphs are a bit difficult to use. I had to render this in two passes, one for each eye, due to the winking and eye movement morphs clashing.

    I'm very proud of the lighting in this one.

    https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/#gallery=all&sort=newest&page=1&image=1354659

    If you don't mind me asking, how did you get shadows from the hair and on the neck? Even with cast shadows turned on I do not get shadows from the hair nor on the neck. If you look at my Chibi-Bel image, I'd expect to see that and shadows from the skirt.

    Never mind... I've apparently been having issues with the deep map shadows on my lights, which appears to be working now. I would get no shadows when it or the other option was selected. Now to retry a couple of renders...

    Edit -- the Filament Atmosphere Blur product was the problem. I had used it on the Minion image, and what I've learned is if the subject is in the dome, the shadow type from the distant light works in reverse. I had to set the shadow type to None in order for the shadows to appear. Thought I'd throw that out there if someone else attempted the same thing and wonders why turning on the deep shadow maps appear to turn off the shadows.

    Ah yes, that makes a lot of sense. When I use Filament Atmosphere products, I apply the "constant" Filatoon preset to them and turn off receive & cast shadows, to stop them from messing with the shadows like that.
  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,494
    edited November 15

    Mavka https://www.daz3d.com/mavka-for-genesis with some minor morph tweaks and with custom Filatoon shader presets.

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,494

    @Moogee That turned out cute! Mickey 9's mats look great on the default Toon Male! 

     

  • NmatsuNmatsu Posts: 0

    I've just found out about the FilaToon update.

    I'm gonna have so much fun.

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  • SapphireBlueSapphireBlue Posts: 959

    3Diva said:

    Mavka https://www.daz3d.com/mavka-for-genesis with some minor morph tweaks and with custom Filatoon shader presets.

    Love this! Super cute and really nice shader set-up. 

  • SapphireBlueSapphireBlue Posts: 959
    edited November 18

    I was trying my hand at some custom face textures for G9 toon and messing around with the Draw Settings some more. Love the possibilities! heart

     

    Dreaming (Straight Filament/FilaToon render)

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,494

    SapphireBlue said:

    3Diva said:

    Mavka https://www.daz3d.com/mavka-for-genesis with some minor morph tweaks and with custom Filatoon shader presets.

    Love this! Super cute and really nice shader set-up. 

    Thank you! I'm having a blast with Filatoon. Total game changer for me! :D

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,494

    SapphireBlue said:

    I was trying my hand at some custom face textures for G9 toon and messing around with the Draw Settings some more. Love the possibilities! heart

     

    Dreaming (Straight Filament/FilaToon render)

    That's gorgeous! I love the monochromatic look you're able to get too. Your scenes are set up with lovely composition, contrast, and clarity (the three Cs we're taught in art class). Nicely done!

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,457

    3Diva said:

    SapphireBlue said:

    I was trying my hand at some custom face textures for G9 toon and messing around with the Draw Settings some more. Love the possibilities! heart

     

    Dreaming (Straight Filament/FilaToon render)

    That's gorgeous! I love the monochromatic look you're able to get too. Your scenes are set up with lovely composition, contrast, and clarity (the three Cs we're taught in art class). Nicely done!

    I agree, looks amazing and gorgeous, and good to know about three Cs.

     

  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 1,398

    SapphireBlue said:

    I was trying my hand at some custom face textures for G9 toon and messing around with the Draw Settings some more. Love the possibilities! heart

     

    Dreaming (Straight Filament/FilaToon render)

    Wow! I can't get over how versatile Filatoon is.

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,494
    edited November 19

    I've been experimenting with shadows and you can get interesting hatching-like effects with Shadow Type PCSS by lowering the Shadow Polygon Offset Slope to negative values. 

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  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 1,398
    edited November 20

    3Diva said:

    I've been experimenting with shadows and you can get interesting hatching-like effects with Shadow Type PCSS by lowering the Shadow Polygon Offset Slope to negative values. 

    Wow! Now Filatoon is eating Sketchy Toon's lunch as well!

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  • SapphireBlueSapphireBlue Posts: 959

    Artini and vrba79 Thank you both! heart

     

    3Diva Thank you very much! heart I shifted the texture colors more to greens that would work for the scene, then tweaked Draw Settings to create a more uniform feel. It's really good for that and flexible for creating a more custom color look. Love that aspect! smiley

     

    3Diva said:

    I've been experimenting with shadows and you can get interesting hatching-like effects with Shadow Type PCSS by lowering the Shadow Polygon Offset Slope to negative values. 

    That's a great discovery and experimentation! yes I had noticed before that Shadow Type VSM gives a more smudged textured look suited to certain styles, but hadn't explored it further. Just had to try out your PCSS tips - and wow, some really crazy effects happen! Very cool! laugh

     

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,494

    SapphireBlue said:

    Artini and vrba79 Thank you both! heart

     

    3Diva Thank you very much! heart I shifted the texture colors more to greens that would work for the scene, then tweaked Draw Settings to create a more uniform feel. It's really good for that and flexible for creating a more custom color look. Love that aspect! smiley

     

    3Diva said:

    I've been experimenting with shadows and you can get interesting hatching-like effects with Shadow Type PCSS by lowering the Shadow Polygon Offset Slope to negative values. 

    That's a great discovery and experimentation! yes I had noticed before that Shadow Type VSM gives a more smudged textured look suited to certain styles, but hadn't explored it further. Just had to try out your PCSS tips - and wow, some really crazy effects happen! Very cool! laugh

    It was a fun discovery for sure! The only thing is you need to render pretty large and then scale the image back down - otherwise, it's just a mess. lol Thankfully, though, rendering with filament takes just a second or two, even if the render is huge. That's one of my favorite parts I think - that it's nearly instant rendering! :D

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,494
    edited 2:14AM

    It's gotten chilly here and the leaves are turning beautiful colors. I was inspired to do an Autumn fairy. Made with: Toon Generations 2: https://www.daz3d.com/toon-generations-2-essentials-for-genesis-3

     

     

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  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 1,398

    Can confirm ordinary LIE works just fine with Filament/Filatoon as well.

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,418
    edited 1:37PM

    Another one I've done. Still can't get decent ground shadows though so just did 2 renders. Until Filatoon handles shadows better I'm finding it a bit limited.

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