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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,498
    edited December 3

    Still need something to add ...

    and postworked one

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,616

    TheNathanParable said:

    3Diva said:

    @TheNathanParable That's incredible! Gorgeous work! How did you get the glow on the water ripple line where her body meets the water?

    Funny enough, that's actually a glitch, lol. The 3d ripple (from SY's ripples and wakes) uses an opacity map to blend out the edges. This looks fine in Filament from the top, but from the front you get the usual depth fighting from semi transparent objects.

     

    I tried to fix this using the same technique I used in the other thread to get that translucent shirt effect; I created a geometry shell with the exact same shader settings as the base, except one has soft transparency while the other has clamped transparency. If tweaked right it's pretty seamless. However, I didn't realise until after I posted that I forgot to adjust the geometry shell to be much closer to the base surface, causing that slightly glitchy 'glow' to appear, lol.

     

    Edit: Oh, and just in case I misunderstood and you actually just meant the lighting at that part, I think I also added a point light under the water. They don't cast shadows in Filament anyway, making them good for adding a little colour variance to a scene.

    Hahah The "glitchy glow" is a happy accident then. Very cool! :D The image turned out SO GOOD! Nicely done!

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,616

    @Artini Nice! The postwork makes it POP! :D You might keep an eye on hand placement. It's hard to tell what's happening with their lower hands, particularly his - as it blends in a bit too much with the arm. One thing I suggest is keeping an eye on the figures' silhouettes and their "readability". Overlapping parts can be confusing to understand. Strong silhouettes can be a huge help in the readability of an image. That's just a little suggestion - please please please don't think I'm trolling or trying to be mean. I really hope you don't take it that way and aren't offended by my suggestion. If you are please let me know and I'll be happy to remove my comment. You're such a sweetheart and I'd never want to offend you! *hugs*

  • MusclemanMuscleman Posts: 3,050

    For the most magical time of the year...

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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,498

    3Diva said:

    @Artini Nice! The postwork makes it POP! :D You might keep an eye on hand placement. It's hard to tell what's happening with their lower hands, particularly his - as it blends in a bit too much with the arm. One thing I suggest is keeping an eye on the figures' silhouettes and their "readability". Overlapping parts can be confusing to understand. Strong silhouettes can be a huge help in the readability of an image. That's just a little suggestion - please please please don't think I'm trolling or trying to be mean. I really hope you don't take it that way and aren't offended by my suggestion. If you are please let me know and I'll be happy to remove my comment. You're such a sweetheart and I'd never want to offend you! *hugs*

    Thank you so much for the comments and good advices.

    I knew, that something is off with this image, but I am happy that I have posted it,

    just to get from you such a nice response. Thanks, again.

     

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,498
    edited December 4

    Another try...

    and after a postwork...

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,616

    @Artini That's very cute! Nicely done! I could totally see that in a kid's comic or animated show. The bear made me laugh out loud! :D

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,498

    Thanks a lot for the comments, @3Diva

    FilaToon is such a keeper, that makes me want to experiment with it more and more times.

     

  • TheNathanParableTheNathanParable Posts: 1,068

    Fanart of Akari, the main character of the free visual novel PockeDate!

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/3107350/PockeDate__Pocket_Dating_Simulator/

    Additional postwork done using Affinity Photo 2 and Filter Forge 13.

    https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/user/6736226870624256#gallery=newest&page=1&image=1357088

  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 1,408

    TheNathanParable said:

    Fanart of Akari, the main character of the free visual novel PockeDate!

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/3107350/PockeDate__Pocket_Dating_Simulator/

    Additional postwork done using Affinity Photo 2 and Filter Forge 13.

    https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/user/6736226870624256#gallery=newest&page=1&image=1357088

     

    Dang man! That's great! Toon shading and VCR-style post processing effects go together like peanut butter and chocolate.

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,498

    TheNathanParable said:

    Fanart of Akari, the main character of the free visual novel PockeDate!

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/3107350/PockeDate__Pocket_Dating_Simulator/

    Additional postwork done using Affinity Photo 2 and Filter Forge 13.

    https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/user/6736226870624256#gallery=newest&page=1&image=1357088

    Amazing and very well done. You are very talented.

    Good to see Affinity Photo 2 and Filter Forge 13 in action, too.

    Just wonder what my recently purchased Corel programs from HumbleBundle

    will add to the table.

     

  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 1,408

    Having bought that bundle, I'm struggling a bit with Paint Shop Pro myself. Its hard to figure out how to do some of the effects I could in Photoshop, and tutorials are scares, but I persevere.

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,428
    edited December 7

    I had to hide the outline for the leaves, which is annoying.I hope they are working on updating filatoon and solving some of these problems.

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 101,340

    scorpio said:

    I had to hide the outline for the leaves, which is annoying.I hope they are working on updating filatoon and solving some of these problems.

    What was the issue? The cating-shadows-on-the-outline-surface issue was fixed, single-plane mesh is - as I understand it - another matter and may not be truly fixable

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 6,943

    scorpio said:

    I had to hide the outline for the leaves, which is annoying.I hope they are working on updating filatoon and solving some of these problems.

    Love this! So sweet! I think the line goes around the actual model so if there's a  transmap, it will show the leaves as being rectangular rather than leaf shaped. But everything looks fine in this render.

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,616

    @scorpio That's adorable! :D

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,616
    edited December 8

    AprilYSH's wonderful Christmas gift is right up my alley! SO CUTE! :D Thank you, @AprilYSH !

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,616
    edited December 8

    This one is inspired by 80's cartoons like Jem and the Holograms and Barbie and the Rockers.

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  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 1,408

    I could look at Filatoon render all day. They're so bright and vibrant.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,353

    3Diva said:

    AprilYSH's wonderful Christmas gift is right up my alley! SO CUTE! :D Thank you, @AprilYSH !

    That's nice! How do you make those nice backgrounds?

  • TheNathanParableTheNathanParable Posts: 1,068

    Did you know there were once plans for T.a.T.u to get their own anime movie called "T.a.T.u Paragate" which unfortunately got cancelled?

    https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/user/6736226870624256#gallery=newest&page=1&image=1357338

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,616
    barbult said:

    3Diva said:

    AprilYSH's wonderful Christmas gift is right up my alley! SO CUTE! :D Thank you, @AprilYSH !

    That's nice! How do you make those nice backgrounds?

    Thank you! Though only one of the backgrounds I put together. The Jem/Barbie inspired one is the Bubble Light Stage with a star pattern shader added to the center panel. https://www.daz3d.com/bubble-light-stage

    The one with the Christmas freebie tail, I didn't have time to set up a background for that one so I added an image to a plane primitive. I was exploring Leonardo Ai last week and that was one of the images Leonardo Ai made. I think I asked for "vibrant anime stunning texture micro photo", or some such word salad. lol It's the first time using an Ai image for a background but I thought it turned out neat, so I decided to use it. It's definitely more satisfying, though, setting up and rendering 3D backgrounds.

    So while the Ai image for a background was a pretty big time saver, it definitely doesn't feel as satisfying rendering with it. If it wasn't 4 AM when setting up the scene I would have used 3D assets instead. :)

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,616
    @TheNathanParable All the things she said. Wow, I hadn't heard T.a.T.u. in quite a while. The characters turned out cute!
  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,498

    Very nice images, everyone.

    Just waiting for some more spare time to play with FilaToon.

     

  • TheNathanParableTheNathanParable Posts: 1,068

    The moment I saw Nirv Zero in the store, I knew I HAD to buy her! :D

    https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/user/6736226870624256#gallery=newest&page=1&image=1357407

  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 1,408

    TheNathanParable said:

    The moment I saw Nirv Zero in the store, I knew I HAD to buy her! :D

    https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/user/6736226870624256#gallery=newest&page=1&image=1357407

    Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang!

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 6,943

    TheNathanParable said:

    The moment I saw Nirv Zero in the store, I knew I HAD to buy her! :D

    https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/user/6736226870624256#gallery=newest&page=1&image=1357407


     


    Adorable! She's being downloaded in my DIM as I type. 

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,498

    Looks so nice. Glad, I have also purchased her bundle.

     

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 6,943

    My submission to one of the Daz+ contests, used deco wallpaper. Does anyone know how to create reflections in Filament? I had to render from a different angle and composite in Photoshop.

  • TheNathanParableTheNathanParable Posts: 1,068
    edited December 11

    Unfortunately I don't know how to do actual reflections. What I can say though, if you don't mind some constructive criticism, is that the reflection on the mirror is at the wrong angle. Unless the mirror is leaning forward, you wouldn't see so much of the floor. Here's a stock photo I found of a similar composition.

     

    Retro woman 1950's mirror hi-res stock photography and images - Alamy

    Here's an idea. If you turn on "display persistance" on the main camera, you'll be able to see the blue line showing the camera direction even when it's not selected. See where it intersects with the mirror, and create a Null object there. Then parent the camera to the Null, duplicate the Null using "duplicate node hierarchies" (so you end up with two Nulls, each with an identical camera attached to them), and then rotate the second null by 135 degrees-ish? (it'll probably depend on the scene, so you might have to eyeball it unfortunately) Render from both angles, flip the second image, then composite. From my experiment, this should be accurate.

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