A Voiceover Coop?

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  • Cheese it, it's the teach.

  • laststand@runbox.com[email protected] Posts: 866
    edited August 2017

    I pretty much put animation aside this year and focused on other things.  Recently I realized the main reason I did this was, voices.  I just wasn't satisfied with the available options.  Today I did a status check on Voco, etc., and I thought I'd drop by and tell you what I found.

    As for Voco, what I found was nothing at all.  We are left to speculate about Adobe's plans and progress, although my guess is that rent will be involved.  However, I ran across something called Lyrebird.  It does pretty much what Voco does, but it's open source and needs a much shorter sample than Voco.  Alas, it too is "in development."  Google has something called DeepMind in the works.  The press says it will be a Voco alternative, but their website blurbs didn't make any sense to me.

    Sooner or later, one of these or one yet to come will be available to the common man.  Until that happens, I may leave animation alone.  I might try a few old fashioned still image cartoon strips in the meanwhile.

    How about you?  Would you animate more if quality voice files could be generated on the desktop?  Affordably?

    https://lyrebird.ai/demo

    https://deepmind.com/

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  • Strange...the existing thread seems to have disappeared overnight, and an irrelevant post has attached itself to the above.  Never saw that before...

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,169

    does anyone here actually make any money worth the trouble?

    I don't

    made me $2.86 last month just under 1K views that month over a million all up

  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165
    edited August 2017

    Youtube didn't take the videos down, they just stop montization of them .. I mean the pulled ads from a demo on how to create a 3d dancing girl usinf star character with daz..lol .  Just Stupid!  I think they lost their minds

    I made about $300 last year, but so far only $28 bucks .. I agree with Wendy its not worth the troube. jumping through their hoops anymore. Its my opinon its all being set up for paid for content now like redtube. etc.

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  • laststand@runbox.com[email protected] Posts: 866
    edited August 2017

    I understood that your stuff was demonetized, Ivy.  The action was less severe than removal, but the arbitrary mechanism behind either one seems to be the same.

    .........................

    I do see a force trying to turn YT into cable TV.  Every dog has its day.

    .........................

    I notice the original thread still exists:  https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/1917181/

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    Rottenham said:

    Strange...the existing thread seems to have disappeared overnight, and an irrelevant post has attached itself to the above.  Never saw that before...

    What thread are you talking about?

  • laststand@runbox.com[email protected] Posts: 866
    edited August 2017
    Chohole said:
    Rottenham said:

    Strange...the existing thread seems to have disappeared overnight, and an irrelevant post has attached itself to the above.  Never saw that before...

    What thread are you talking about?

    Hi Chohole,

    The original thread is here: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/1917181/

    -- that's the thread I posted to two days ago (I found it didn't disappear after all).  But my post didn't show up there.  It showed up here instead.  https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/2743241

    FWIW, I have no problem with this.

    Thanks.

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    Rottenham said:
    Chohole said:
    Rottenham said:

    Strange...the existing thread seems to have disappeared overnight, and an irrelevant post has attached itself to the above.  Never saw that before...

    What thread are you talking about?

    Hi Chohole,

    The original thread is here: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/1917181/

    -- that's the thread I posted to two days ago (I found it didn't disappear after all).  But my post didn't show up there.  It showed up here instead.  https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/2743241

    FWIW, I have no problem with this.

    Thanks.

    Your links are both to posts in this thread.   I am confused.

  • Chohole said:

    Your links are both to posts in this thread.   I am confused.

    Me, I click on each link, I get different results on each link.  Just for drill I deleted all my DAZ3D cookies, but still had the same result.  Cleared the browser cache, same result.  Got email notification that one of my posts had been removed, tested again, same result.

    As I said, I'm not having any problem.  I am happy with this thread.

    Thanks.

  • wolf359wolf359 Posts: 3,826
    edited August 2017

    People need to understand the only prolific youtubers actually
    make any serious money.

    That is people who upload new content DAILY ..repeat... DAILY!!!!


    one person called "pewtie pie" has been reported in the  news 
    media to have made several hundred thousand per year reviewing
    video games etc.

    You have to build a following with thousands of subsubscribers
    and network with other professional "tubers" for cross promotional opportunities.


    One has to make it a full time job if one seeks anything near a full time income.
    you also need to have other venues that promote your youtube channel.
    such as blog or website

    Once you get large enough loyal following,
    you can start a Patreon page or similar ,where your  many"fans" pay a monthly fee to support you and keep your content coming.

    It is  hard work and not for the shy or  for those averse
    to communicating with strangers  on a daily basis.

    To be blunt,
    the people who have been up ended by the recent YT 
    policy changes were not well schooled in self marketing and clearly were not
    properly diversified in their promotional efforts or not prolific in thier content creation
    to begin with.

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  • laststand@runbox.com[email protected] Posts: 866
    edited August 2017

    Wait, Chohole.  I've been suffering from Stage 4 PEBKAC.  Forget everything I ever said please.  It is too embarassing to explain.

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,169

    Pewtie Pie has wrongly attributed one of my videos to someone else who uploaded a poor quality copy and has 10x my views indecision

  • th3Digit said:

    Pewtie Pie has wrongly attributed one of my videos to someone else who uploaded a poor quality copy and has 10x my views indecision

    Hmm...Have people stolen your work before?

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,169
    Rottenham said:
    th3Digit said:

    Pewtie Pie has wrongly attributed one of my videos to someone else who uploaded a poor quality copy and has 10x my views indecision

    Hmm...Have people stolen your work before?

    well not really stolen as its a video I put in creative commons but not acknowledged either and yes many variations of my stuff up there, I do not consider any of it that worthy to be honest, did put a heap in the creative commons.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,169

    considering its the most awful stuff on youtube blog I am not really going to make a fuss blush

  • th3Digit said:

    considering its the most awful stuff on youtube blog I am not really going to make a fuss blush

    Personally, I might think about a small watermark.  Just to discourage this kind of thing.

  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165
  • Ivy said:

    Thank you.  A nice presentation.  I can see an increase in sophistication in a couple of years.

    At first I went to the beginning with all the pirates, and it reminded me that Talk Like a Pirate Day is only a month away.  Argh!

  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165

    Thanks , I'm glad you enjoyed it  :)

  • wolf359wolf359 Posts: 3,826
    edited August 2017

    Anyway back on topic
    I really wish Daz would ,at the very least
     unvault the venerable stand alone mimic 3 pro
    even as 32 bit only app it still is quite useful
    for creating ,editing& refining lipsynch.
    perhaps even give it away with one of those M4/V4 "clearances

     

     

    It works quite well genesis 2 figures after you export them to poser cr2's

    Here is the G2 male speaking  one of my favorite peices of movie audio
     

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  • laststand@runbox.com[email protected] Posts: 866
    edited August 2017
    wolf359 said:

    Anyway back on topic
    I really wish Daz would ,at the very least
     unvault the venerable stand alone mimic 3 pro
    even as 32 bit only app it still is quite useful
    for creating ,editing& refining lipsynch.
    perhaps even give it away with one of those M4/V4 "clearances

    Personally I find the existing DAZ Mimic implementation to be adequate, if not elegant. I accept that DAZ is not highly focused on animation. I have always liked Reallusion's handling of lipsync, ever since I discovered Crazytalk years ago, but I can't accept their never-ending "bump you up" way of doing business.

    After I did this, I figured this lipsync was close enough, and other things became more important to me.

    Well, the solar eclipse will be coming to town in a couple of hours, and I've got it on the brain now.

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,169

    you can actually buy Mimic pro through another site I saw somewhere and it is from DAZ

  • wolf359wolf359 Posts: 3,826
    th3Digit said:

     

     

    I get a page not found
    the thead must have been deleted
    but if IRRC your in that thread link was to the mimic pro for Carrara owners
    not the stand alone mimic 3 pro.

  • wolf359 said:
    I get a page not found

    the thead must have been deleted
    but if IRRC your in that thread link was to the mimic pro for Carrara owners
    not the stand alone mimic 3 pro.

    I found v2.5...

    http://www.brothersoft.com/mimic-pro-265201.html

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    i've been recording one line dialogs,
    but haven't settled on a de-noise software to remove ambient sounds.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,169
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    • mindsongmindsongPosts: 619

      July 19Flag

      mimic pro (32bit standalone) still available at toolfarm.com. buy it there, daz3d 'delivers' it. $49. it's legit, odd way to get it, but legit.

      a bit dated, but pretty powerful capabilities. may take some tinkering to get g2,3 or 8 working. others may have tips. I animate g1 aand previous generations. gave up on character chasing. g1 plenty capable for me.

      good luck!

      --ms

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  • Mistara said:

    i've been recording one line dialogs,
    but haven't settled on a de-noise software to remove ambient sounds.

    I installed all new double pane windows.  Then I put a 15lb. industrial sound barrier over the studio window.  Lastly, I get up at 4AM to record sound.  The ceiling fan, if it's on, is easy to get rid of in Audacity.  In the winter I record in between furnace cycles.  :-)

  • th3Digit said:
    • mimic pro (32bit standalone) still available at toolfarm.com.

    Good catch. https://www.toolfarm.com/buy/3d_mimic_pro

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