OT - Adobe CS2 now free, perhaps
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so what is included in the suite and is it worth installing the whole shebang or is just photoshop enough?
Here is a link to show what is included in CS2 http://www.adobe.com/downloads/cs2_downloads/index.html. It all really depends on what you want to use it for. If you like web design, Go Live is a powerful tool. If your just going to uses it for editing and texturing then you'd probably want Photoshop and Illustrator. If you create .PDF files then you'd want Acrobat Pro
Hope that helps out some.
Wow! Feel like a kid in the candy store :-)
btw - for those that would like to know, obviously some of these are heavy downloads but the ADBEAudition_loopology is 4.24 GB.
On W7, one of the installers had to be using the XPSp2 compatibility option, then inside of those folders, was another installer that ran just fine after inputting the serial key.
Also on W7 it can be a good idea to be sure nothing is trying to install into the official Programs folders. The above installer wanted to install the temporary files inside the program folder and like, that's not going to happen.
I was just thinking the same thing. I have been using Gimp for so long now it would be weird to go back and relearn Photoshop.
I have CS2 now just in case but yeah I don't know if I'll go back to PS
I've tried Gimp but I don't think I could ever not use Photoshop the moment any sort of editing situation came up. I think like a Photoshopper. 8-0
It's a culture shock thing. It's like riding motorcycle into a sudden downpour. Once your underwear is wet there's no reason to stop!
GoLive is a web design tool. I used GoLive6 (older than GoLiveCS2) to design my site www.LGProductions.com as well as several commercial sites.
Adobe abandoned GoLive after they bought Dreamweaver.
I felt comfortable with GoLive. But it didn't have the features of modern web design. I eventually got DreamweaverCS4 but could never get the hang of it (my underwear never got wet) so I quit. The only web designing I do now is my own site maintained on my old copy of GoLive6 running on an old WinXP machine.
I've tried Gimp but I don't think I could ever not use Photoshop the moment any sort of editing situation came up. I think like a Photoshopper. 8-0
It's a culture shock thing. It's like riding motorcycle into a sudden downpour. Once your underwear is wet there's no reason to stop!
Well now I can say I photoshop the famous, and that's something I really wanted.
but not open hand of some functions, the gimp ...
in the end I think we can enjoy the very best in both
You know Cho, you can open all of Ron's CS or newer brushes in an app called abrMate that will then save them all as individual PNGs which you can then open in PS7 and then use to create PS7 version brushes.
I used to use something called abrViewer, but this is much better. You can check it out here --> http://texturemate.com/abrMate
OMG Premiere!
all the freeware video editors and effects programs I fartarse around with rolled into one do not even touch this!!!
lol,
Audition makes Audacity look like a cheeky brat pretending to be his Dad!!
actually loads my midi files too. (Audacity just gets an error) and uses vst plugins on them, still need the 4Gig of Adobe stuff not enough broadband left so will prolly see if I can use all my free ones for now and hope I can get the rest.
someone pinch me, this is a dream, I am so gonna wake up to find Adobe has remotely deactivated the lot oneday!!!
You know Cho, you can open all of Ron's CS or newer brushes in an app called abrMate that will then save them all as individual PNGs which you can then open in PS7 and then use to create PS7 version brushes.
I used to use something called abrViewer, but this is much better. You can check it out here --> http://texturemate.com/abrMate
...will this work for Gimp?
Actually there were two earlier threads about this, but they were deleted. Mine was the second.
Anyway, I downloaded CS2 and Photoshop separately. I threw them up in cloud storage just in case.
Adobe bridge was implemented in CS2 according to this article..http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/photoshop/ss/cs2adobebridge.htm
I don't believe that Adobe wanted to say they were giving CS2 away for free, because of those people hab bought it originally. In their forums you can read about it. However it is fairly obvious they wanted to get it into people's hands.
Some people have called this marketing Genius, me I'm not sure. However, Adobe has been losing market share to some other editors, and it is a great way for more people to get to play with the adobe products. They can now market to users as well.
It is a very nice opportunity. If you have never tried a CS version of the suite, or of Photoshop, I would certainly recommend grabbing CS2 or at least Photoshop.
To get to the download page, just search, "Adobe CS2 download". It was the second result on my page.
:D
They can't deactivate CS2 when the software-features of activation remotely has been...deactivated. :-) The software uses a general activation-code that doesn't need confirmation on Adobe's servers, thus why this thread exists in the first place. But I got CS4, so I don't need CS2. But for those who don't have a 2D-program, then CS2 is perfect.
One more thing......
You can grab Creative Suite 2, which includes everything.
You can also grab one, or more, of the component parts:
Acrobat 3D 1.0 for Windows
Acrobat Standard 7.0
Acrobat Pro 8.0
Audition 3.0
GoLive CS2
Illustrator CS2
InCopy CS2
InDesign CS2
Photoshop CS2
Photoshop Elements 4.0/5.0
Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0
:D
Stupid question of the day: why Acrobat Standard 7.0 and Acrobat Pro 8.0?
Wouldn't you go with the newer and pro version anyway?
I would, and I did :)
You could always download both if you don't want to always use the Por one, or create PDFs
I would guess - its from the update at that time .
it has some "adjustment" issues, but nothing critical or show stopping in Win 7 64 bit outside of Go-Live which for usability is a train wreck in the Windows 7 environment.
you will need to manually point the installer to C:\progra~2\adobe type it just as you see it.
and it does not like running on a RAID array, especially Acrobat Pro as it will constantly ask you to register it if you try.
sorry if this has already been posted, I have not read this whole thread.
...will this work for Gimp?
I don't see why not Kyoto. I had Gimp on my old laptop and was able to open the PNGs I used to get with the old abrViewer, but this newer abrMate is much better, and once you have a PNG file you should be able to create a brush from it. Since I didn't use Gimp extensively, I never got around to trying to make my own brushes, but I can't believe it would be that hard. Only difference is they would be individual brushes rather than a "group" of brushes as in Photoshop. Of course, this way you can pick and choose which ones you think you'll use more often than others, and just make brushes out of those.
Thing is, though I've never tried it, others have said that PS brushes can be installed in Gimp. I just don't remember if they need to be converted, or the file extension needs to be changed, in order to get it to do so. I know with PS 7 and earlier versions, I was able to change the .abr extension to .jbr to get them to work in PSP 7, 8 and 9, though PSP had a size restriction on brushes in the earlier versions that was annoying.
OK, I just Googled and here's a tutorial on How to Use Photoshop Brushes in Gimp.
GIMP has been able to use abr brushes for quite a while now...and the features in 2.8 make brushes a lot better (that was one of the major reworks in it)...things like full 360 rotation, much better sizing, greatly improved/expanded dynamics...and improved abr support...plus it seems to be a lot 'lighter' on resources than the last few.
Woo-hoo! But I’ve been waiting for something like this to happen!
Picked up the Photoshop and so far so good on my Win 7 64.
I’m psyched. Now to play.
Cheers :)
I would guess - its from the update at that time .
Actually this brings up a question. My Photoshop 7 had an update after release to bring it to PS 7.0.1 or somesuch. I wonder if there were updates to these release versions of any of the programs.
Seriously, I am sooooo happy for you! For someone so enthusiastic about animation this must be a dream come true. And good on Adobe for giving you and others a chance to use software they could only dream of owning.
Actually this brings up a question. My Photoshop 7 had an update after release to bring it to PS 7.0.1 or somesuch. I wonder if there were updates to these release versions of any of the programs.
Was that actually an update, as mine is also 7.0.1, and that is installed straight from the Adobe upgrade CD.
Same with me on Dreamweaver CS4. I had to call every time I reinstalled it to get a new key using the trial. The first time Adobe reps told me if I had this problem again, they would issue me a new serial number. It didn't happen. I upgraded to DW CS5.5 so I wouldn't have that headache anymore. I saved all my keys and sometimes the same ones would work again, but not always. Waiting for hours on the phone got tiresome which is why I did that. I think the problem was I upgraded to DW CS4 from Macromedia's Dreamweaver and the SN wouldn't work in DW CS4.
Adobe doesn't allow upgrades from CS4 products anymore as of Dec 31, 2012. Everybody has to be on the CS5 level to upgrade to CS6. I also heard rumblings that we can't skip versions anymore. For example, you can't go from CS2 to CS5. Adobe should realize that companies don't upgrade every year.
I still use Illustrator 10 and InDesign CS1 that work just fine in Windows 7 so others shouldn't have a problem with a CS2 product unless it's an activation issue. Illustrator 10 does have an issue with changing the color scheme to Windows 7 Basic, but the software works if you adjust the settings to work in Windows XP.
It's too bad CS2 products aren't free. I really wanted to upgrade Illustrator and InDesign because I missed the upgrade path years ago for those two.
EDITED TO ADD: I didn't see the later posts that said it is free. Downloading the two products that are old. Most of the other ones I already upgraded so I'm doing it individually. Note: If you already have a newer version of Acrobat, I wouldn't install the older one because it will ask to uninstall it and it might mess up your PDF printer if you don't. I've had issues with two different version of Acrobat on my computer.
It isn't, or certainly hasn't been confirmed to be, free - people are just reading Adobe's silence as consent, which isn't necessarily true.
They are trying to get everyone to move to their Adobe Cloud service, which I subscribe to and I do like quite a bit. That would make staying up to date easier for businesses, though it also means you have to continue paying the subscription fee in order to keep using the software.
Well if it ever gets to the stage that the only way to upgrade PS is to use the cloud, then I guess I will have to resign myself to only having an older version, because I for one would never subscribe to rent software. I like to have a tangible copy of what I am using, At the moment the only program I use regularly for which I don't have a manufacturers CD or DVD is Bryce 7 Pro.
I may be old fashioned, but I prefer it that way.
I don't blame you about the subscription. For those of us not using it for monetary gain, it's a waste of money. If Adobe goes the route of having to upgrade every year and we have to be at the current version then I'm going to stay with what I have. Right now most of my Adobe software is at CS6 and I'll just have to use it until later versions of Windows don't let me.
I understand the Cloud version (subscription) allows you to download the current version to your computer. You still have to be a subscriber to use it. I think Adobe's monthly subscription is too high for average users who don't use it commercially.
My interpretation of Adobe's silence means the attorneys are still working on it, and what Adobe has already said could be used against them.
There is a graphic on one website's forum that shows a conversation between a customer and one of the chat reps claiming it is free to use for anyone including those who don't have a valid CS2 license. From personal experience, many times with Adobe chat reps, they don't always know the facts and can be very misleading. Most are non-US citizens who don't have a good grasp of the English language so anything they say could be an error on their part.
I think it's safer to just not install it until we hear an official word from Adobe. Most of what I've seen on other sites is just speculation and wishful thinking. I've never known Adobe to give away software unless it's a trial. They don't even sell old software. I'd be willing to purchase older versions if they were available.
Lets keep the wild speculation to a minimum.
Actually this brings up a question. My Photoshop 7 had an update after release to bring it to PS 7.0.1 or somesuch. I wonder if there were updates to these release versions of any of the programs.
Was that actually an update, as mine is also 7.0.1, and that is installed straight from the Adobe upgrade CD.
Yep. Actual update which I used a year ago when I installed to my new machine. I must have purchased at the original release and they rolled the update into the distribution later. I guess that would be the case with these files too then.