Michael 8

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  • RafmerRafmer Posts: 564

    I don't like the new Michael,I don't like how his skin looks, I don't like the characters in the pro bundle either, or the hairs or any of the clothes. So I just bought the head and body morphs to make use of the new Genesis 8.

  • dreamfarmerdreamfarmer Posts: 2,128

    He definitely has a younger college jock look... which would fill a hole in my library. Alas, I still can't afford to dive into supporting a new figure. 

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,212

    Don't his biceps look weird to anyone? Too pointy...? 

    You mean TRICEPS hon.  When I flex mine they can really stand out but in a relaxed pose like that... no they don't look like that at all. 

  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,455

    Bought and downloading now... *taps fingers impatiently* smiley

    Very glad Daz has released M8 closer to V8 than usual. I'm usually not interested in working with a new generation until there's a family of figures, so to speak.

    Also delighted that the promotional discount also applied to what I consider to be essentials like the morphs and even JWolf's Expressive Faces. Made it a lot easier for those to slip into my cart.

    + 1!  yes

     

  • deathbycanondeathbycanon Posts: 1,227

    I'm geting the pro bundle, but I don't have ANY of the other pro bundles so it's a great deal for me. I also thought he looked like John Travolta, but also like M6 who also looks like Travolta ;) 

     

    M8 M6 

                  M8                                                                                           M6                                                        John Trovolta

    laugh

  • SpottedKittySpottedKitty Posts: 7,232
    y3kman said:
    Yup, the PC coupon will only drop the price of the M8 pro bundle by less than $1 if you add all the free Michael pro bundles.

    There's a glitch in the store that's never been fixed — if you apply one of the PC+ coupons to a cartful, and it also includes free items that would otherwise qualify for the coupon, then the coupon's value will be shared among the free and non-free items. Send in a support ticket and remember to mention your order number.

  • ChuckMChuckM Posts: 134

    Pretty much right out of the box and I like him already!

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  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,770

    @deathbycanon You're right! I was wondering who M6 always reminded me of! M8 definitely has that look too.

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,286
    Orpheus13 said:
    JOdel said:

    Right. What happened to the basic Head and Body morphs and the basic expression package? We need these for the G8M base, regardless of whether we opt for M8. C'mon, people. The basic tools should be available when the base is.

    So I suppose this isn't what you're expecting ?

    https://www.daz3d.com/expressive-faces-one-click-morph-expressions-for-michael-8

    No. That's not the basic set. Those are typically DAZ Original only, with no PA listed. Unless they decided to farm it out this time and list the PA instead of doing it all in-house.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,120
    edited August 2017

    I was very surprised, having not bought any M8 products, that the G8M included very good set of muscularity morphs free as well as a comprehensive set of expressions, phenomes, and posing sliders, free! G8M & G8F are definately the best Essentials yet.

    Now I am glad to see that the G8M Head, Body, and Expressions have been released. I have bought them & will now install.

    Also surprised that G8M free included elf ears free. I guess G8F includes all the above free too but I didn't notice as I bought the morph packages before I downloaded G8F Essentials.

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  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 3,037

    I am not digging Axel hair nor the Dark Prince outift at all.

    Axel Hair does not look "right" for some reason. I would have preferred a longer hair style and the other shorter one included.

    With as many "bikini armor" sets out there for woman, making one for men isn't solving a problem, it's perpetuating it. Sorry.

  • fastbike1fastbike1 Posts: 4,077

    Studio doesn't get updated. The Genesis 8 Male Essentials should be in your Products and ready to download. 

    Orpheus13 said:

    Well he looks very realistic, I like him (not so much the hair on Quinton though lol).

    But does that mean we'll get an update of the main app with Base Gen8 Male ?

     

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,286

    Snorting with laughter at the Dark Prince get-up. The guys finally have equality with the girls in practical armor...

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,169

    I do like the new Mike, but even so, Mike 6 remains my favorite Mike :P. If only he didn't have those moobs ;).

    Laurie

  • kaotkblisskaotkbliss Posts: 2,914

    I hope they continue this trend of the "Buy the newest character and get all the earlier versions free"

    I have a lot of G2 characters in my wishlist that have been in multiple generations.

     

    Oh, I guess they won't :( Olympia is already out for G8 and there was no special like this for her

  • agamersdayagamersday Posts: 101
    I guess he's less ugly than Victoria 8 but I still prefer Michael 7
  • IldanachIldanach Posts: 217

    I hope they continue this trend of the "Buy the newest character and get all the earlier versions free"

    I have a lot of G2 characters in my wishlist that have been in multiple generations.

     

    Oh, I guess they won't :( Olympia is already out for G8 and there was no special like this for her

    Olympia 8 did have this special offer too.

  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735
    edited August 2017

    So does this mean we can expect to see all the uv map packs coming soon, and the 'make G8 have the same expression, face and body morphs as previous figures?  What about the G3M to G8M pose conversion?  is the pro pack just the beginning of all the landslide of what's to come?

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  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,887
    RKane_1 said:

    Axel Hair does not look "right" for some reason. I would have preferred a longer hair style and the other shorter one included.

     

    Not sure what exactly "right" means?  Many males have shorter on the sides and more volume on the top. It's definitely in-style right now.  Do you just not like the combination?  However, one of the things I'd want to render and check would be how spiky the sideburns are though- the one promo which shows a different angle, they look pretty sharp. (which that cut can be- I just want to see if it's distracting.) 

     

  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,548
    sapat said:

    So does this mean we can expect to see all the uv map packs coming soon, and the 'make G8 have the same expression, face and body morphs as previous figures?  What about the G3M to G8M pose conversion?  is the pro pack just the beginning of all the landslide of what's to come?

    You can do that now if you follow the directions on the G3 to G8 thread.  I have all of my G3 female characters (131 of them) moved up to G8F and they work perfectly.  The skins don't need to be converted at all.

  • evilded777evilded777 Posts: 2,464
    Choppski said:

    So even if you buy the pro bundles, morphs are a separate expense? Are later gensis figures able to use morphs that work on earlier figures? I have several from the first genesis and have not bought any genesis product since. I will likely still get the m8 pro because I get all the others for free, but just wondering if any come with morphs.

    @choppski Man... long time no see. Alas, no the morphs are not cross compatible without purchasing a tool for that.  Are you making the leap to Studio? I was just thinking about you the other day.

  • evilded777evilded777 Posts: 2,464
    RKane_1 said:
    xyer0 said:

    I like him. In fact, he is the type of guy (Gabriel Aubry) I was going to suggest as the model for Genesis 8 Male. I love his eyebrows because they have never been plucked---ever. The hair that is not in the Pro Bundle looks like OOT (thinness of hair strands) on the top. Maybe it will be released tomorrow. We get 12 items in the Pro Bundle (up from 11), but I have no use or desire for the Dark Prince or Sci-Fi Settler (or their parts).

    And if it was OK to say that Victoria 8 looked masculine, then perhaps I can say that the full body renders of Michael 8 on his promo page (body language and positioning) make him look like he would be more interested in Gianni than Victoria.

    Out of sheer curiosity, since you seem to be an expert on the issue, how does one look "gay", xyer0? :)

     

    @RKane_1 since I recognize that I am diplomatically impaired during Mercury retrogrades, thank you for saying this. I would have done it badly. That was a ridiculous statement.

  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735

    So does this mean we can expect to see all the uv map packs coming soon, and the 'make G8 have the same expression, face and body morphs as previous figures?  What about the G3M to G8M pose conversion?  is the pro pack just the beginning of all the landslide of what's to come?

    You can do that now if you follow the directions on the G3 to G8 thread.  I have all of my G3 female characters (131 of them) moved up to G8F and they work perfectly.  The skins don't need to be converted at all.

    I tried to follow it but i'm not that clever unfortunately.  I have 'foggy brain' and it's hard for me to follow along when it's a written thing.  I do better with videos.  Besides it seemed there were 2 or 3 ppl writing different variations and it kept getting updated and/or revised so often I couldn't keep up.  If someone makes a video tutorial for the process based on whoever's process is the most accurate (and easy), then I'd watch it over and over.

  • kaotkblisskaotkbliss Posts: 2,914
    Ildanach said:

    I hope they continue this trend of the "Buy the newest character and get all the earlier versions free"

    I have a lot of G2 characters in my wishlist that have been in multiple generations.

     

    Oh, I guess they won't :( Olympia is already out for G8 and there was no special like this for her

    Olympia 8 did have this special offer too.

    She did?!? Oh LOL it looks like I did get that one too

     

    Well then, my original comment stands. I really hope they continue the trend :)

  • evilded777evilded777 Posts: 2,464

    It seems that your Michael 8 discount will also apply to the Genesis 8 Male Morphs....bonus.

  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735
    edited August 2017

    I kind of wish there'd been 1 short and 1 kind of long-ish hair for him.  Not long and flowing like girl hair, just something above the shoulder and still currently trending.  2 short hairs is....meh....  Also, as with all the Pro packs, the extra 2 characters are mostly throw aways for me (no offense to the vendor(s) ).  I only really care about the main figure, some poses and a few outfits.  I'm not a fan of the one that has jeans under chaps and a leather shirt.  Very odd to me.  Instead of 2 extra characters with no personality, no body hair, and bland looks, I'd rather have a couple extra outfits, or even a couple addon textures for included outfits.  More useful to me.

    I've yet to dl and render him, but seeing how ppl are reacting makes me apprehensive now!!!

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  • I too would very much like to see some customer renders. I'm tempted, if only to get two extra pro bundles free, even though I have bits out of both. The extra characters do seem a bit, meh and those hairs are horrid. I'm sorry, but yikes. I will never use those. I really wish the frank 'n beans was in the starter bundle, then I could just get that. sigh.

  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,770

    I was very surprised, having not bought any M8 products, that the G8M included very good set of muscularity morphs free as well as a comprehensive set of expressions, phenomes, and posing sliders, free! G8M & G8F are definately the best Essentials yet.

    Now I am glad to see that the G8M Head, Body, and Expressions have been released. I have bought them & will now install.

    Also surprised that G8M free included elf ears free. I guess G8F includes all the above free too but I didn't notice as I bought the morph packages before I downloaded G8F Essentials.

    Yes, there are some very nice things included completely free with G8M, including a basic wear set that has quite a few pieces. I'm thrilled to see poses, morphs and expressions in that set too. That's great to have in the starter essentials! I don't remember this much in any of the others. 

  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,885
    edited August 2017
    sapat said:

    So does this mean we can expect to see all the uv map packs coming soon, and the 'make G8 have the same expression, face and body morphs as previous figures?  What about the G3M to G8M pose conversion?  is the pro pack just the beginning of all the landslide of what's to come?

    UV support is mostly native. If this is like G8F, Base Male and Michael 7 UV should work without too many issues. The other characters may need adjustment. (Elijah 7, for example, should be fine from underneath the pecs down, but from there up, the chest and shoulders probably won't look right.) I'd suggest that you ask @Redz if there was going to be a UV product for G3M-to-G8M as they did with G3F-to-G8F, but the latter product rather abruptly turned into a Daz Original, so they may not be able to say.

    As for morphs, if you don't use something like Singular Bliss' script, you'll need to wait and see if anyone is able to pick up the ball on a new version of something like GenX2. With Dimension3D/Ralf Sesseler's death, it's not clear that anyone will be able to do what he did.

    RAMWolff said:

    Don't his biceps look weird to anyone? Too pointy...? 

    You mean TRICEPS hon.  When I flex mine they can really stand out but in a relaxed pose like that... no they don't look like that at all. 

    I've noticed that Flexion in Genesis 3/8 has a real problem in that area. As far as I can tell, it seems like what the figure is being told is that flexion happens pretty much everywhere at once, and just gets more extreme when a body part is in use. The difficulty with the arms is that the triceps never look all that huge, unless you're a bodybuilder, and when the biceps are being flexed/tightened, the triceps is being stretched, and it doesn't seem to know how to handle that automatically. The Musculature HD morphs could handle it, but you have to go in and first activate Muscle Flex Control (never at 100%, unless bodybuilder) and then specifically locate the right triceps muscles (they're all defined in the morphs for G3F/M) and dial out flexion for those muscles. Effective, but a pain in the ... triceps.

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