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Sorry.. I spent the first half of the year with serious health issues, and then my content server died, and then my computer died - twice. Lost two entire products that were almost done, had to restart another one I had started, managed to get one full product uploaded and a couple freebies but of course, it takes a while for things to get into the store. It's been a terrible year, I hope the next one is better.
MAYBE since males being the ruling sex in most cultures in history, they make the decision on the art they are buying? (I mean in the end most arts are on sale/auction) and having female in art tends to attract more male buyers... or maybe I am just plain wrong lol
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Throughout the ages what is popular to illustrate figure-wise really depends on the culture, and the attitudes of the time and who is paying for the art.. IE who the patron is.
I can't say I've noticed that women as a whole are largely illustrated more in a historic sense when it comes to the human figure. I would probably give the lions' share of the art themes to religious and mythological art and portraiture. In recent times there was an upswing towards art featuring beautiful women, but I wouldn't consider that trend to be something that is historically true or even representative of art as a whole.
I particularly like the "sexy pose" where it looks like she's sniffing her armpit to see if she needs deodorant. hahah
I know, I know, that's not what the pose is supposed to be, but I swear that's what I thought it was at first glance. lol
I thought she was "taking a smellfie" too. LMAO
Laurie
Excellent points...Males were certainly featured as much if not more than females during antiquity. And, later portraiture often had the commissioner of the art shown in some religious setting or referenced back to an earlier work. So yeah, even though the female form is highlighted in modern culture, it probably hasn't been the preferred subject that far back.
Now, those are some sexy poses! Actually, it seems like a pretty varied set. Into the WL for now. :)
People tend to notice things more when they are interested in the subject matter or if they dislike the subject matter. We are exposed to so much art on a daily basis that probably doesn’t contain sexy women that we just don’t see... but is there and influences our perceptions in the form of advertisements. Art that contains women is an obvious hook for some which is why it is used frequently. Art that contains images we don’t like is also an effective tool.
I think the upswing in beautiful female art which might have been more taboo years ago is has to do with a society shift in values. Pinup and sexy art is no longer terribly taboo to illustrate or own in some countries and is now much more commonplace. Porn is likewise accessible and popular Females are enjoying more prominent roles in books and literature and modern art reflects that.
Images that depict men in heroic fashion also still exist but have fallen slightly less in favor as many male teens prefer female characters and female game icons than they use to. There is still a healthy chunk of male figures in prominent roles in comics and books and film of course ... but females characters ate definitely more popular than they once were.
I think we are doing the normal/traditional/whatever split.
Men are the resources, women are the caretakers/sexualized prize.
You don't notice the non-sexual - 8-billion images of men 'doing stuff'. Hello. Riding horses to victory, fighting battles, sitting on trophies, posing in paintings, looking regal. We just go, yeah. ---->
men aint depicted as sexual objects so it's unbalanced.
Niche market for a man doing the duck face.
No one noticed that men take 'selfies' it's them showing off a resource....JUST THEIR hand holding a new pair of sneakers. Just the picture of the sunset. Their dog on the bed, but women to show new shoes, have them on and or posed sexy and to show off a new haircut, there has to be cleavage. A guy just shows a close up of his chin to show younhis new beard or just the top of his head to show a new haircut.
Men show what they CAN get, women show what you'll get. Gross, I know, but pretty accurate. The store follows that.
The only wrinkle is the overall popularity of the female form makes the PAs give them all the action-non action. Yeah she's sexy while holding the gun/sword/dressed for battle- fighting in jello etc.....
Armor, space suits - all still sexy...Sexy pirate outfit- cause there were soooo many of those......
And now notice, whenever (not whenever, but a lot) they do have men doing idle stuff- sexy stuff, the sexuality goes the other way to follow the switched gender role.
random observations.
...sure looks like it.
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Hard to quote with quotes, but here we go.....
The Key word is marketing.
1) Daz could have insured resources were in place (PA powered accounted for). They debuted with morphs, they could have debuted with compatibility products. Apparently, bodily concerns are more important than overall content. We'll get HD skin blemishes for Generation 8 before we get the ability to wear ALL of the products you already own or get your NEW clothes to work all across your library of characters..
2) Many say that oh so little of the Daz customer base checks the forum, but then we want to solve the Problem of Compatibility with an obscure post on the forum. Who, When, What and Where? So, if I wasn't around on the three days that thread was alive, I'd never know. Much different than if Daz had an official product that shows up in the Daz store.
3) Marketing.
This LOOKS like it's dforce is FOR Generation 8 clothing. It might be matter of fact that since- all new articles are Gen 8 and Dforce is coming on new items (obviously), it's already the impression that the two are linked.
Now, imagine if they came out at the same time! That's the point.
4) I've seen this before and it might actually work that now, so many older items seems to be wonky. The store is becoming recycled items for a new generation.
And unfortunately there's no reason to get new versions of items you already own. iRay made that an attractive thing to do. But why now? So many times I see a new item and I think it's the old, similar item on sale or an iray added texture/shader. I've done it before, by accident, buy the same thing for Genesis 3 and later, for Genesis 2, when it was put on sale and didn't realize I already own it.
Now, I always use ATIs add-on to check what I already own from a vendor before buying old stuff.
As you can see, you're not the only one who had that first impression.
I have to admit I purchase and use female models much more than males ones, but I do primarily pinups and my graphic novel I'm creating has three female lead characters (which I'm proud of, because historically comics and movies are male dominated.) Ironically, Daz is the only place where males are less popular, where males are the minority and Black characters may be more liked than White ones. The topsy turvy difference between Daz and the rest of the U.S. is quite interesting..
But the issue I'm having with G8 males, is that I don't personally find them physically attractive. In general, I will buy some male characters as "character actors," like George or Ivan, but my lead characters have to look like someone I would personally date and I have not found that in G8 Daz Originals so instead, purchased a bunch of morphs so that I can create my own characters, which I do anyway with female characters, come to think of it, but I will often mix several characters, along with morphs to make my own, but with G8 males, which I haven't even used yet, I will create my own characters from scratch with morphs because I was not happy with the base characters except Darius, which I will buy when on better sale in the future.
In any case, @Midnight-stories, you will always get my money, because I LOVE your products, my graphic novel is sci-fi and if I could afford it, I'd buy out your whole store! Now that I finally purchased a Windows (yuck) PC with NVIDIA card (that I still need to set up!), I can finally start doing renders that don't take 48 hours and can catch up with my rendering, especially YOUR products!
Personally, I think Daz has to come up better looking base characters for G8. I did end up buying most female pro bundles when on the best sale, but they were for the clothes, not the characters. It is easy to create ugly ducklings like Stephanie 8 ourselves with morphs, but much harder to create beauties. I personally like creating my own characters, but I'm sure many people would like attractive characters out of the box, it's much easier to uglify a character than beautify it! Luckily PAs pick up the beauty slack for females, but I still not have seen any G8 base male characters that I personally like. And what's with no hair on the body? I'm going to have to go into Photoshop and put hair on all male bodies that were created since G2. Do all guys wax now? I live in LA and don't even see that much waxing. I liked the body hair of M4, why can't we go back to that??? And so far I still like M4's face the best too. And if V4 could bend better, she'd still be my favorite female base character...
I've just rendered G8M in basic G8F poses and vise versa. I'd say, the difference is a bit demoralizing.
Many of the sexy female poses have always reminded me of a child needing to go to the bathroom urgently; which is not sexy.
Funnily all three of the male poses you picked are also "sexy model" poses but they didn't come across that way to me on G8F. Wonder why.
Thank you, this made me laugh so much! I mostly use male poses on my females, because the female poses are usually beyond ridiculous..especially the extremely arched backs..
hahah Too funny! I see from a few responses here that I'm not the only one who thought that. lol Glad I'm not the only one.
No, it just happens that the technology was made available after G8 was released, so clothing will naturally be focused on that. The actual tech is not directly related to the figure, and it's been shown to work on figures and clothing of other generations.
...I've done the same.
...indeed, they released a holiday freebie for a Mil Dog sweater. Now that is a real "old school" model.
@fisty Oh wow, you sure fit the saying "If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all." Sorry to hear about the health issues and computer / product woes. And we always appreciate your freebies, very generous. Will be good to have you back!
I don't know how I missed this post. Oy - Fisty! I'm so sorry you're having such a tough year!
Where you not able to salvage any of the two products that you lost? Losing TWO entire products - UGH!
I hope that things are looking up for you. And I hope that your health is better. *big hugs*
I have a few screenshots.. =/