Light Dome PRO - R
Ali Bozis
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Where is the the action preset for photoshop located, can't seem to find it?
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It might depend which version of PS you're using, but look in "Windows" drop-down and click on actions, which should be in the drop list.
I think Alt+F9 is the keyboard shortcut.
Found it :)
But when I render i get all these little icons too, is that suppose to happen??? Or am i doing something wrong?
The original light dome pro was one of my favorite products, how different is this from that.
LDP 2 was a plugin for DS3 rather than just a light set. Everything was done inside DS. You didn't need any other bridges or outside apps to get results.
If you wanted Z depth or other atmospheric effects, you would use Mood Master 2. Again, this generated everything inside DS.
From the product page, it seems the majority of the work is not done in DS but in Photoshop. You create the scene, point the sun where you want it, make any background adjustments and then the rest is done in Photoshop using layer effects.
LDP and LDP2 were very popular before UE and UE2. This really isn't LDP. It's too dependent upon Photoshop to get the results you need.
Product page should also list what version of PS this works in and if the bridge is needed or not.
It does not appear to need the bridge, it rather looks self contained. It does looks like an interesting product. More for me because I am still learning to use Photoshop.
Though I do still wish he would update LDP2.
This is still an LDP plug-in, but now comes with even more for 'serious' work, albeit from the videos it looks like there are no time of day settings (I think there were in LDP2?)... That said, I haven't actually bought it yet, waiting to see what else comes out this weekend, as LDP-R doesn't have speacial price above the 'standard' 30% so can wait until I get some money on Tuesday. But it's definitely a "must have" product for me.
Anybody that does postwork to their renders will instantly see how awesome this product is (I've done a lot of stuff similar to some of these render passes manually, and this will certainly save loads of time). Fot those not accustomed to doing anything post render, there's still a fair bit on offer, albeit you do lose out if you don't use PS (The render layers could still be worked manually in Gimp, albeit you'd really have to know what you're doing to come anywhere close to the instant results possible via PS).
You can still set up scene and render normally if you don't want to do any post, but obviously you'd then lack the ability to easily tweak to your satisfaction afterwards if you change your mind and/or want to add that extrta oomf to your image, which is the revolutionary feature of this (we're talking the sorts of render passes that are more typical of higher-end 3D apps than what we're used to in DS).
yeah same here. Looks like something that could bring some new life to my renders.
I am curious about the product, but have had issues with dreamlight stuff being too bright or overlighted. I am curious about others opinions on how it works for them.
Has anyone that purchased this tried it using either Gimp or Photoshop Elements?
I may still have the serial number for the version of Photoshop I purchased 5 or 6 years ago (I have a text file that I save them in) but I've long since mislaid the disk to install it. I really can't justify the cost of a newer version when Lightroom, Elements and Gimp can do everything I need for my photography work.
CS2 I think is still free from adobe
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?loc=en&e=cs2_downloads
http://gizmodo.com/5973730/grab-photoshop-and-cs2-for-absolutely-free-right-here
I would think as far as Elements goes, it might depend upon which version of Elements you are using. If your version of Elements can use Ron's products that have PS layers in them then you should be good to go. I don't know about GIMP. Can it use PS layers out of the box?
I wish to heck the vendor would give more information about the product. In the end, I suppose you could buy it and if it doesn't work or do what you want, return it for a refund.
I also wish the vendor would just update LDP and MoodMaster so the work in newer versions of DS.
Yes, I also get easily very bright images with Light Dome PRO - R, but it is a question of more practice.
Below are the renders of the test scene. First is the preview from Daz Studio.
... Then with Miami filter ...
... and with the Cold filter ...
Elements can use layers, as can Gimp.
The problem is that the main feature of the product is that you load all of the renders into Photoshop then run an action that automatically combines them into layers of a single image. Including what appears to be some linked mapping for some layers that it's hard to tell exactly what its doing from the video. Neither Elements nor Gimp support these actions. Though you can apparently get some actions to work with Gimp by installing something called Gimp #.
I guess I could try and figure out exactly what he's doing with the layers and handle that part manually but I'd still lose the built in filters since those are also actions. Again I could probably duplicate this all manually but if I'm going to that trouble why should I give someone else my money.
The Gizmodo link to get CS2 for free sort of works. The direct link in the article just takes you to the same error page as before but if you read through the comments you'll find direct links to download the files from Adobe.
CS2 is downloading now and I'll add Light Dome to my wishlist for now. I'd like to see some others impressions of how the lights themselves actually work with maybe some examples as well.
Thanks for these Artini.
The only thing you cannot do outside PS is to perform the PS Actions, which should be possible in PS Elements 11 (but I don't think any version before that), but it would still be a PITA in anything other than PS because the amount of manual blending would still take a fair bit of time.
PSD/layers are irrelevant unless you're actually using PS, each render pass saves as a standard image file that can be loaded into any art/photo editing program that supports layers... importing each render as a new layer, but then you would need to know what settings to use for each separate layer (LDP-R has all that worked out for you in PS so you just concentrate on the art side instead of the headache side)
*edit* - I've cross-posted a couple of posts above - I need to learn to type faster :lol:
Just a further edit - You should be able to import PS Actions into PS Elements 9, the limitation I believe is that you can't create any custom actions of your own.
Artini, was your first render of those three done with LDP-R too? I'm interested in finding a 'raw' LDP-R render before any adjustments are made in Photoshop to test how effective other adjustments are on it. Photorealistic renders do not take Curves and other strong color correction very well.
This looks to be an excellent product for quickly creating fast and realistic renders though! I have experimented for years to find settings that translate well from Studio to Photoshop, but I think this will spare many new artists a lot of time and frustration. :)
Actually from the look of the video it does not just render one image but multiple and then allows you to combine them in Photoshop. So there is no raw image. Closest thing to it was the first of his post. One thing that interest me is the possibility of using other light sets and using the ldp-r render feature.
Also rather than using the Sun light you can You Moon light as well from the look of the videos.
Yeah I wouldn't see any reason you couldn't use your own custom light set. From watching the video loading the lights and the sky dome are separate steps from the actual render. That appears to be a script to render multiple files though it may be expecting some specifically named lights to work correctly.
Yes, this first render was done using Daz Studio "Render" button. Dreamlight refer to such render as a preview
(because it does not use layers generated by Light Dome PRO - R). I will do more tests and post more renders
if I get some good ones.
Actually it just looks like it uses the one sun light
"magine creating your DAZ Studio scene and when you're ready for lighting, you simply add LDP-R, point the Sun Light and hit render. Next, you find yourself making LIVE ADJUSTMENTS with automatically combined layers and filters inside Photoshop."
Looking at the files it generates, it's a multipass render script that creates 7 files, and some of them are probably specific to the lighting provided in the kit (e.g. "Sun Bounce"). So I don't know how well it would work with other lighting.
I'm not much on postwork, so I probably wouldn't get much use out of this. It's an interesting idea, though.
That sounds about right but I am sure you can load the light set and then substitute parts of it with other sets or even merge.
This takes a lot of experimenting to figure out the full extent of this application.
also
Sorry, I meant the multi-layered "raw" image (basically what's left after you run the combine Photoshop action).
Thanks Artini. :) If you render anything else, could you possibly post the render you get right after you render with LDP-R and combine it all with the action? Thanks again.