Snowball of Savings Has Launched!!! (and its different from last year)

DZ_jaredDZ_jared Posts: 1,316
edited January 2014 in The Commons

December is here and with it snow. In fact here in Utah we just got dumped on. So its the perfect time to launch our 2nd annual Snowball of Savings. Things are going to be a bit different from last year though, here's how it is going to work:

Every day we will release 4 new snowball items. If you purchase one of these items you will get a snow ball in your Snowball Meter.

If you fill up your Snowball Meter you will receive a 10% discount* on the entire store for the rest of the month of December!

The fun doesn't stop there though, each additional time you fill up your Snowball Meter you get an additional 10% off up to 50% off everything in the entire store.*

You have to act quick though, because Snowball items are only eligible for snowballs for 2 days max. After that, they will no longer give you a Snowball for your Snowball Meter.

So how can you participate in the Snowball of Savings? Simple - just head over to the Snowball of Savings page and purchase any of the qualifying items listed to start filling up your Snowball Meter.

*The fine print :
Items purchased as part of the Snowball of Savings sale (this includes both Snowball items, and items purchased with the Snowball discount) are ineligible for returns.

Snowball discounts that you earn will not apply to New Releases (except for those currently listed on the Snowball of Savings page), Gift Cards, Platinum Club Memberships, and products by Reallusion Animation.

The Snowball of Savings discounts will stack on top of your Platinum Club discounts (where applicable) as well as other discounts for promotions we may or may not run this month. Stacking means that discounts will be applied separately, and not added together. For example a 10% Snowball discount stacking with a 30% PC discount on a $100.00 item would yield a final price of $63.00.

**Edit**
If you would like to opt out of the snowball of savings sale (for whatever reason), you can do so by following the instructions in this post: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewreply/497689/

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  • SylvanSylvan Posts: 2,711
    edited December 2013

    I am curious: why can there be saved up to 10 snowballs on the page, when the discount doesn't go above 50%?
    Nice that it stacks with the pc discount!

    Also: thanks for the small print explaination!

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  • MalandarMalandar Posts: 776
    edited December 1969

    Well I will not be participating much in it I don't have a job and my funds are limited at the moment. I would like to say however that the drop down banner for it that you have in the gallery that drops down as you mouse over it is ANNOYING AS HELL. Can't you put in a normal banner there?

  • DZ_jaredDZ_jared Posts: 1,316
    edited December 1969

    It takes 10 Snowballs to fill your snowball meter which equals a 10% discount.

    Essentially you'd need to fill your Snowball meter 5x to get the 50% discount.

    One snowball does not equal a 10% savings. You need to fill the entire meter to increase your discount.

  • MalandarMalandar Posts: 776
    edited December 2013

    Estroyer said:
    I am curious: why can there be saved up to 10 snowballs on the page, when the discount doesn't go above 50%?
    Nice that it stacks with the pc discount!

    Also: thanks for the small print explaination!

    Someone beat me to it

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  • DZ_jaredDZ_jared Posts: 1,316
    edited December 1969

    Malandar said:
    Well I will not be participating much in it I don't have a job and my funds are limited at the moment. I would like to say however that the drop down banner for it that you have in the gallery that drops down as you mouse over it is ANNOYING AS HELL. Can't you put in a normal banner there?

    Yup, we'll take that down. Please note that it usually takes 30 days for requests of this nature to be processed. So it should be down sometime after new years ;-)

    In all seriousness though, the Sitewide banner is not likely to change.

  • DaWaterRatDaWaterRat Posts: 2,885
    edited December 1969

    I'm running tight financially too, but I still like this sort of "snowball" sale than those annoying buy-it-alls. :)

    I might manage 10% or 20% by the time the holiday money gets here. :)

  • SylvanSylvan Posts: 2,711
    edited December 2013

    Oh I understand, it's because the discount stacks!
    Thanks for explaining
    So I need 50 purchases for the 50%?

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  • MalandarMalandar Posts: 776
    edited December 1969

    DAZ_jared said:
    Malandar said:
    Well I will not be participating much in it I don't have a job and my funds are limited at the moment. I would like to say however that the drop down banner for it that you have in the gallery that drops down as you mouse over it is ANNOYING AS HELL. Can't you put in a normal banner there?

    Yup, we'll take that down. Please note that it usually takes 30 days for requests of this nature to be processed. So it should be down sometime after new years ;-)

    In all seriousness though, the Sitewide banner is not likely to change.


    Guess I will have to find some way to kill it myself then. Sorry, but I do not like webpages doing things that I do not allow and having that thing drop down every time, making me move my mouse further down to let the stupid thing get out of my way so I can click on an image to view makes me mad enough to just close the page. I mean hell on a wide screen monitor the view space is small enough with the two bars across the bottom that that banner covers most of the clear space between them and the browser tabs, it just comes down too damned far.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,240
    edited December 1969

    DAZ_jared, you said that the snowball items cease being snowball items after 2 days. if I choose not to collect snowballs and purchase the item after its eligibility for snowballs has expired, is it then a returnable item?

    I'm always up for a good sale, but the "can't return" fine print makes me leery of purchasing now. During the last sale with this kind of restriction, I purchased a product that had numerous errors and was unusable for me. It was never totally fixed, in spite of several bug reports and updates. Even though it was not an expensive product, I came away from that experience with a bad feeling. Even though I've rarely returned anything (4 items in 2 years, I think) it was reassuring to know that I could purchase without risk.

    DAZ advertises "Better Than Risk Free" on the home page: "We're so convinced that you'll like our products that we offer a 30-day money back guarantee with every purchase made on our site! Try out any product in our store for thirty days. If you are not 100% satisfied with your purchase we'll give you your money back." It says every purchase. I'm disappointed that DAZ would run not one, but now two sales that do not honor that risk free promise.

  • MalandarMalandar Posts: 776
    edited December 1969

    I think that policy in this case is to discourage the numpties that will buy stuff to get the reward only to try to return the stuff they bought to get the reward while trying to keep the reward.


    That said I personally think the product in question should be fixed or you should get a refund, kind of curious what it is now though because I am wondering if it is one of the things I bought and never used yet.

  • RiggswolfeRiggswolfe Posts: 905
    edited December 1969

    I will likely pick some stuff up though October and November drained me. Just out of curiousity will the 12 days of Christmas happen like it did in the past?

  • acanthisacanthis Posts: 604
    edited December 1969

    At least the mechanism for this latest sale is understandable unlike the dreadful Power-FLAT Meter or whatever the hell it was called. I do wonder, though ... can you have too many sales? Why not just have a system of rewards points (like a certain other site) and allow customers to earn points on their day to day purchases - at a pace commensurate with their spending ability, instead of sucking people into this spend...spend...spend spiral?

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,212
    edited December 1969

    There seems to be glitch. I purchased the Adventurer for Genesis Male a week or so ago and now it's back in the store and the "Purchased" button is showing me an "Add to Cart" and yes I'm logged in. Might want to look into that DAZ!

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  • namffuaknamffuak Posts: 4,145
    edited December 2013

    Rammie - the new one is for Genesis; last week was Genesis 2 Male (even though all the promo images for this week are labeled 'genesis 2').

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  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,212
    edited December 1969

    But as you can see it's been installed into the Genesis 2 Male folder by default.

  • namffuaknamffuak Posts: 4,145
    edited December 1969

    Apologies - I thought I was looking at the entry for the previous version; I haven't downloaded it yet, so I don't know where it is going to go.

  • SpottedKittySpottedKitty Posts: 7,232
    edited December 1969

    Malandar said:
    I would like to say however that the drop down banner for it that you have in the gallery that drops down as you mouse over it is ANNOYING AS HELL. Can't you put in a normal banner there?

    Complete agreement. These drop-down banners make me avoid them and not want to investigate what they're about. Tell the website programming team that the next time they want to use one. The same goes for all the active animated bits and pieces in the various special offer pages — they're the modern equivalent of singing-and-dancing Flash code, or going further back, the old HTML code that made blinking and scrolling text banners.
  • Blaine91555Blaine91555 Posts: 148
    edited December 1969

    OK. Buy 50 items to get 50% off. People actually do that? Surely there must be a twelve step program for this. :)

  • araneldonaraneldon Posts: 712
    edited December 1969

    barbult said:
    DAZ_jared, you said that the snowball items cease being snowball items after 2 days. if I choose not to collect snowballs and purchase the item after its eligibility for snowballs has expired, is it then a returnable item?

    I'm always up for a good sale, but the "can't return" fine print makes me leery of purchasing now. During the last sale with this kind of restriction, I purchased a product that had numerous errors and was unusable for me. It was never totally fixed, in spite of several bug reports and updates. Even though it was not an expensive product, I came away from that experience with a bad feeling. Even though I've rarely returned anything (4 items in 2 years, I think) it was reassuring to know that I could purchase without risk.

    DAZ advertises "Better Than Risk Free" on the home page: "We're so convinced that you'll like our products that we offer a 30-day money back guarantee with every purchase made on our site! Try out any product in our store for thirty days. If you are not 100% satisfied with your purchase we'll give you your money back." It says every purchase. I'm disappointed that DAZ would run not one, but now two sales that do not honor that risk free promise.


    Quoted for agreement regarding this new "risk free no returns policy". It may be a necessity due to the nature of this promotion but as far as I'm concerned it's not a worthwhile compromise.

    There are very few artists whose products I might buy without the possibility of refund.

  • DisparateDreamerDisparateDreamer Posts: 2,506
    edited December 1969

    Er...guys.... that's.... BUYING 50 THINGS to get a 50% discount... i'm guess all that will cost at least 100 if each thing is at least a PC item IF you're in the PC club...

    that doesn't really equate 'savings' to me....?

    These kinds of sales only reward the big spenders with a lot of money to put down consistently, I think... :-/

  • acanthisacanthis Posts: 604
    edited December 1969

    Er...guys.... that's.... BUYING 50 THINGS to get a 50% discount... i'm guess all that will cost at least 100 if each thing is at least a PC item IF you're in the PC club...

    that doesn't really equate 'savings' to me....?

    These kinds of sales only reward the big spenders with a lot of money to put down consistently, I think... :-/

    Well, to be fair to DAZ it's actually buy 10 things to get a 10% discount, 20 things to get 20% etc. I'm not even sure there could ever be enough things that people would want to buy to get to that 50% figure and I, for one, am not even going to try.

  • DecoyboyDecoyboy Posts: 511
    edited December 1969

    Er...guys.... that's.... BUYING 50 THINGS to get a 50% discount... i'm guess all that will cost at least 100 if each thing is at least a PC item IF you're in the PC club...

    that doesn't really equate 'savings' to me....?

    These kinds of sales only reward the big spenders with a lot of money to put down consistently, I think... :-/


    Total agreement there. Those were my first thoughts. $1.99 x 50 = $99.50 and that's if there are that many PC items being released for this. I might as well just buy M6 at my PC 30% discount and call it a day.
    at least last year it was something like 1/2 off the next day's items.......... but you ran the risk of not wanting the next day's items.
  • icprncssicprncss Posts: 3,694
    edited December 1969

    Except that there will probably only be one PC priced item per week. If this sale lasts a month that will mean only 4 snowballs if you are only buying PC items. No PC priced items in today's group. 2 of which are the usual skimp wear.

  • RuphussRuphuss Posts: 2,631
    edited December 1969

    i think Snowballaction is a good Thing
    prevents me from buying to much this month

  • DZ_jaredDZ_jared Posts: 1,316
    edited December 1969

    barbult said:
    DAZ_jared, you said that the snowball items cease being snowball items after 2 days. if I choose not to collect snowballs and purchase the item after its eligibility for snowballs has expired, is it then a returnable item?

    I'm always up for a good sale, but the "can't return" fine print makes me leery of purchasing now. During the last sale with this kind of restriction, I purchased a product that had numerous errors and was unusable for me. It was never totally fixed, in spite of several bug reports and updates. Even though it was not an expensive product, I came away from that experience with a bad feeling. Even though I've rarely returned anything (4 items in 2 years, I think) it was reassuring to know that I could purchase without risk.

    DAZ advertises "Better Than Risk Free" on the home page: "We're so convinced that you'll like our products that we offer a 30-day money back guarantee with every purchase made on our site! Try out any product in our store for thirty days. If you are not 100% satisfied with your purchase we'll give you your money back." It says every purchase. I'm disappointed that DAZ would run not one, but now two sales that do not honor that risk free promise.

    Yes, or no... I forgot the question. The point is, that if you waited until the item wasn't a SnowBall item and then purchased it, you wouldn't get a Snowball, but the item would be eligible for a return (as long as you didn't purchase it with your SnowBall discount). If you haven't earned a discount then this method would work.

    As far as the reasoning behind this policy, others have pointed it out. We have to modify the return policy for sales like this in order to prevent users from taking an unfair advantage. You would think that people wouldn't, but data from the PC sale indicates that there are plenty who do. I can't share the hard numbers, but without something like this in place we would stand to lose a good deal of money.

    If you let me know which product you purchased that had a bug I can take a look at it. QA owes me a favor, so maybe I could call it in.

  • DZ_jaredDZ_jared Posts: 1,316
    edited December 1969

    acanthis said:
    Er...guys.... that's.... BUYING 50 THINGS to get a 50% discount... i'm guess all that will cost at least 100 if each thing is at least a PC item IF you're in the PC club...

    that doesn't really equate 'savings' to me....?

    These kinds of sales only reward the big spenders with a lot of money to put down consistently, I think... :-/

    Well, to be fair to DAZ it's actually buy 10 things to get a 10% discount, 20 things to get 20% etc. I'm not even sure there could ever be enough things that people would want to buy to get to that 50% figure and I, for one, am not even going to try.

    This! Yes, you would have to purchase 50 items to get a 50% discount, but the sale is set up so that it rewards those who spend with us. Even if you spend just a little this month, you can still participate in the sale. So this sale doesn't just reward the big spenders, it rewards anyone who purchases 10 snowball items in the month. And your snowball discount stacks with other discounts, so you really have the opportunity to get some big savings.

    And even though your snowball discount doesn't apply to new releases, and exception to that rule is made for the current snowball items. So you can use your discount on the current Snowball item, it stacks with PC membership (if applicable) and the introductory price. Once you get going your discount going those items become cheaper and cheaper as you fill up your meter.

    Hopefully though, instead of focusing on filling up your meter 5 times and purchasing 50 items people will focus on purchasing items that they truly want/need and the discount as an added bonus.

  • DisparateDreamerDisparateDreamer Posts: 2,506
    edited December 1969

    you still have to buy 10 items to get even 10% off. :( The more complicated, drawn out, buy more to get any discount these things are, the harder it is to participate.

  • DZ_jaredDZ_jared Posts: 1,316
    edited December 1969

    you still have to buy 10 items to get even 10% off. :( The more complicated, drawn out, buy more to get any discount these things are, the harder it is to participate.

    It's been mentioned in another thread that we've just come off some really awesome sales, the PA Sale in September, the PC Sale in October and then the most recent Black November sale. We can't constantly top big sales like that, so if you have the expectation that every sale we run will be bigger and better than the last, then you may get disappointed.

    This is the main promotion for December. As I stated earlier, there may or may not be other promotions that combine with the Snowball of Savings.

    However, there are a lot of new products coming out. I've looked through most of them, and they are great products. They may not be for everyone, but I guarantee that there will be at least 10 items for almost everyone this sale.

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