Something I've been working on - Harpsburg.[Commercial]

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  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,050
    edited December 1969

    glad you got that sorted.. kinda.. What a PITA!

  • TangoAlphaTangoAlpha Posts: 4,584
    edited December 1969

    Been having a poke around in the scene - gorgeous :) (no point showing an out of the box render, cos someone's already done that!). But I'd love to know how you did the streets.I think I can see how you made a kerb segment and mapped it, then a corner segment and mapped it. Same with road segments and pavement segments etc, then duplicated them around to make the layout.

    But how do you then combine all that into a single neat mesh?

    Or have I completely misunderstood it? (wouldn't be the first time!)

  • HowieFarkesHowieFarkes Posts: 607
    edited December 1969

    Tim_A said:
    Been having a poke around in the scene - gorgeous :) (no point showing an out of the box render, cos someone's already done that!). But I'd love to know how you did the streets.I think I can see how you made a kerb segment and mapped it, then a corner segment and mapped it. Same with road segments and pavement segments etc, then duplicated them around to make the layout.

    But how do you then combine all that into a single neat mesh?

    Or have I completely misunderstood it? (wouldn't be the first time!)

    I modeled a bunch of generic but tile-able road sections, placed them all together in the way I wanted then exported the whole group as an .obj then re-imported it. That made the whole thing a single mesh that I then pushed and pulled for the curves and bumps.

  • TangoAlphaTangoAlpha Posts: 4,584
    edited December 1969

    Export & re-import - I would never have thought of that! Thanks Howie. :-)

  • PhilWPhilW Posts: 5,145
    edited December 1969

    Tim_A said:
    Export & re-import - I would never have thought of that! Thanks Howie. :-)

    It's a good technique to consolidate a complex model - and thanks to Howie for the insight into your working practices!

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,035
    edited December 1969

    your set bogs down DS pretty much on my PC but oddly iClone5 is coping
    although I had to import it in sections (streets)
    just the texture load the issue, I have to add them all referenced externally from my carrara folder,
    doing so mainly for animation reasons, have my Octoberfest G2F ready with her beer jugs
    I am not sure Youtube is ready for me singing "Mein hut der hat drei ecken" yet :lol:

    Yeah I'm finding that Studio is having trouble handling a large complex scene - however as I have built the scene in sections it is easy to hide the sections I'm not working on and everything speeds up again. I turn them all on again for render without issue. In fact rendering in Studio is very fast - the pic below only took 3 minutes to render. Carrara's viewport (at least in 8.1) can handle much more geometry/textures without becoming a slideshow when trying to navigate the scene.
    ...a nice feature of building in sections is it allows for more custom arrangements. Often times too, you do not need a full set to be loaded for creating a scene, also saves on rendering time.

    Just upgraded to Reality3. Would love to see how this looks in Lux.

  • DondecDondec Posts: 243
    edited December 1969

    Howie... I was so impressed with your Harpsburg scene set I created this little video to show my family/friends over the holidays. I rendered it in stereoscopic 3D with separate L/R cameras, so we can watch it on our 3D TV. Unfortunately YouTube's stereo facility is broken now, so here's a link to the "plain old" 2D version. :) Hope I did it some justice.

    Thanks for this incredible product! Really really impressive.

    - Don

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPM1Ru3s_g4

  • Steve KSteve K Posts: 3,233
    edited December 1969

    Howie... I was so impressed with your Harpsburg scene set I created this little video to show my family/friends over the holidays. ... Thanks for this incredible product! Really really impressive.

    - Don

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPM1Ru3s_g4

    Don -

    Nice job, I will use it to explain to my friends what "3D animation" involves. (Many ask, "So you draw all these scenes?" "No ... have you seen 'Toy Story'?")

    The model's detail is truly impressive, I am a sucker for realism (and for Howie's products - Carrara! - I bought Harpsburg at once). That's pretty much the reason I play Grand Theft Auto. Ever since GTA3 I've been kind of stunned by the detail (and the player's freedom to move) in the GTA world. Here is a 3 minute time lapse of the latest (GTA5) world (not my work):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imIkmHCo8Lw

    When I first got GTA5, I just drove around, looking at the "sites". I was particularly impressed by the cable car (~0:20) in the timelapse above). So I did a 4 minute game capture version of the ride up & down, "real" (game) time but slightly edited (still pretty laid back).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myq6UuJlnPQ&list=UUlMEK10oWdfqx6NaNAGJtFA

    I don't always do the "missions" in the game, but I do enjoy just exploring. Rockstar puts plenty in there for that, and you can use the captured footage in (non-profit) fan videos, which I've done. A YouTube search on "GTA" returns 27 million hits.

    The GTA5 world is really huge, here's a map (zoom in):

    http://fashionscansremastered.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/fashion_scans_remastered-gta_v-los_santos-map-scanned_by_vampirehorde-hq-1.jpg

  • PhilWPhilW Posts: 5,145
    edited December 1969

    Don - beautifully done video tour and great style in presenting it! Howie is the master and all of his scenes are worth getting, you can learn a lot by studying what he has done.

  • PhilWPhilW Posts: 5,145
    edited December 1969

    Steve K - Thanks for sharing those videos, I am not a gamer myself but the level of detail and animation in just incidental background stuff is stunning - birds, vibrations in the wires, people going about their business in a realistic way - amazing!

  • Steve KSteve K Posts: 3,233
    edited December 1969

    PhilW said:
    Steve K - Thanks for sharing those videos, I am not a gamer myself but the level of detail and animation in just incidental background stuff is stunning - birds, vibrations in the wires, people going about their business in a realistic way - amazing!

    Phil -

    Yes, the programming is pretty unbelievable (even if you have problems with the violence, etc., which I generally ignore). The gaming website Gamespot gave GTA5 a 9/10 "superb" and said it is "one of the most beautiful, lively, diverse and stimulating worlds ever seen in a game." They said pretty much the same about GTA4 a few years back.

    The only downside for me is that GTA5 never came out for the PC, only the consoles, so it does not have the built-in video capture/edit feature. In GTA4 on the PC, you could save a sequence and then change some of the animation after the fact, e.g. camera angle. So it was not just capturing the video output, it was saving some of the animation details. And the video editor was (is) built in to the program. With GTA5 on my Xbox360 console, I can only capture the video output, using the third party capture box from El Gato (very nice, BTW). It does have a ~5 second delay so you can start the capture just after a big event and still get it. But no changing animation details.

    Still, GTA 5 (and 4) are pretty stunning in the realism. As is Howie's Harpsburg <= weak attempt to stay on topic :smirk:</p>

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,200
    edited December 1969

    octane render
    something funny going on with those table centerpiece pots by the pub :lol:

  • PhilWPhilW Posts: 5,145
    edited December 1969

    octane render
    something funny going on with those table centerpiece pots by the pub :lol:

    Great work, it shows off what a lovely model and textures that Howie has done. And it seems you have a poltergeist!

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,200
    edited January 2015

    THX Phil, have had a few goes at your village but it freezes at one frame

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  • PhilWPhilW Posts: 5,145
    edited December 1969

    THX Phil, have had a few goes at your village but it freezes at one frame

    Wendy - PM me your email address...

  • Bought it on sale today and have the same problem on Mac as TangoAlpha.  Really wish they would fix this bug. 

     

    Love the scene.  Wow.  

  • TangoAlphaTangoAlpha Posts: 4,584

    Just move/copy the folders from MacOS/Presets/Scenes to MacOS/Scenes and it'll work fine.

    Carrara Mac won't find scene files placed in Presets/Scenes, and because it's all inside the "package" there's no way to add that folder to its search list unless you start setting up aliases. I presume the PC version can see that location, otherwise PAs wouldn't keep putting stuff there (& maybe Mac could too in earlier versions - dunno)

    If you make an alias, you can also open the .car file with the normal File - Open command.

  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 21,543

    Nope, it doesn't show up on PCs either. Some products include instructions to "Add xxx Folder to your Scenes browser". Once added, all products from that artist will show up in that, added folder. 

  • 3DAGE3DAGE Posts: 3,311

    For me,(on PC) it's installed into Carrara / Presets /Scenes,... rather than Carrara / Scenes

    This isn't quite right,. as it should go into Carrara/Scenes to show up in the browser,. (IMO)

    However,. it should be easy to add that folder (Presets/Scenes) manually to your browser as Dartanbeck

    Hope it helps :)

     

  • TangoAlphaTangoAlpha Posts: 4,584
    3DAGE said:

    However,. it should be easy to add that folder (Presets/Scenes) manually to your browser as Dartanbeck

    Hope it helps :)

    You can't do that on a Mac (at least not directly) since the content is stored inside the Carrara.app "file" and the Add Folder to Browser function just won't go there.

    But what you can do is create an alias and add that:

    1. Open up Finder and browse to Applications/Daz 3D
    2. Right-click Carrara.app and select "Show package Contents"
    3. Browse to Contents/Mac OS/Presets
    4. Right-Click on Scenes and select "Make Alias"
    5. The alias folder will be top left. You can drag this anywhere outside the Applications folder, and you'll be able to browse to it from within Carrara.
  • TangoAlpha, thanks.  I recall another set or two having the same problem some time ago... even found one installed that I had fogotten I had bought! So I got two for one today!

     

  • MarkIsSleepyMarkIsSleepy Posts: 1,496

    TangoAlpha, thanks.  I recall another set or two having the same problem some time ago... even found one installed that I had fogotten I had bought! So I got two for one today!

     

    Ha!  This happens to me all the time - even a single vendor is not consistent on where they put things, up to and including mispelling their own vendor name (I won't say who that was) so you end up with multiple folders for the same vendor in the same preset folder.  Howie Farke's scenes for example are great but they install the scene files all over the place and it's always a challenge to figure out what you need, find where it went and then add the folder.

  • Dondec said:

    Howie... I was so impressed with your Harpsburg scene set I created this little video to show my family/friends over the holidays. I rendered it in stereoscopic 3D with separate L/R cameras, so we can watch it on our 3D TV. Unfortunately YouTube's stereo facility is broken now, so here's a link to the "plain old" 2D version. :) Hope I did it some justice.

    Thanks for this incredible product! Really really impressive.

    - Don

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPM1Ru3s_g4

    Wow, just saw this (I've been drawn away from 3d for over a year). Thanks so much, I confess I blushed a bit at some of your compliments.

  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 21,543

    That really is a nice video, Don! I agree with you... Howie is a True Artist! :)

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited January 2016

     

    woww, beautiful, is inspiring enlightened

    like the voice over too smiley

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