The foam Peanuts are a tad too sweet and I ate too much but don't feel full Complaint Thread

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    nice cuppa afternoon tea.


    heating up some cornbread, melty butter, yumma

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036
    edited December 1969

    ps1borg said:
    DanaTA said:

    Wouldn't one have to be flying toward the east to fly into sunrise?

    Dana

    I think ps1borg meant flying during sunrise - while the sun is rising in Sydney, New South Wales.

    LAX to MEL or SYD day gives you a sunset. LAX to MEL night gives you a sunrise. Is all ocean so sun and moon are the only thing there is to see :) ( could only find a LAX to SYD flight path) Think that is the longest over ocean route there is :)
    ...well you could always go from The east coast (where I believe starionwolf lives) through Europe to get there as well. Then you'd see two sunrises and have more landforms to fly over so you have something to look at out the window. Going either way you effectively lose two days.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036
    edited December 1969

    ps1borg said:
    Seems the new Mac Pro is a lot faster than the older ones under the hood - it renders Lightwave volumetrics at least fifteen times faster - core for core - meh can't help thinking glass half empty stuff, there must be a way to get older models running at least nearly as quick :lol:


    ...well part of the difference may be the fact that two separate processors have to continually communicate between each other as well as with memory so the "attention" has to be split between both functions. With all 12 cores on one CPU it's back down to the task of just passing instructions between it and the memory to deal with.

    There also may be other improvements like a "fatter" pipeline between memory and CPU (kind of like adding more lanes to a superhighway). When the i7 was released it had triple the memory pipeline width as well as significantly increased memory caching of the old Core Quad LGA775 CPUs.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036
    edited December 1969

    ...bugger, everything on the Daz site is running in slow motion again here.

    Did the usual S.O.P., cleared cache, cleared cookies (using CCleaner which is much more thorough), shutdown/restarted FF, shutdown again, restarted the entire system, and still ended up sitting here watching tabs for the site take seemingly forever to load. Even got hit with another "Network Reset" error. Now I know it's not my connection, because I tested other sites and they open within moments of clicking on them.

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited May 2014

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...the last one was 1.1.0.7 The update is 1.1.0.15.

    Unfortunately when it indicates there is a new version available on opening you have to update it . The only other choice it gives you is "Work Offline". While I know I can manually DL and install, waiting for a reply on the DIM update thread to see if anyone knows what would keep causing this to occur.

    ALL DIM updates must be done in the PC Administrator Mode. So a Right Click and RUN as Admin is needed if the user Profile does not default to Admin on login to the PC. DIM updates do system file installs which only Admin allows.

    Running a Executable installer defaults to Admin by default so a RUN As is not needed.
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  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,095
    edited December 1969

    Complaint: Get off my lawn!

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207
    edited December 1969

    tjohn's avatar has changed again! Spooky! ;-)

    Dana

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036
    edited December 1969

    Jaderail said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...the last one was 1.1.0.7 The update is 1.1.0.15.

    Unfortunately when it indicates there is a new version available on opening you have to update it . The only other choice it gives you is "Work Offline". While I know I can manually DL and install, waiting for a reply on the DIM update thread to see if anyone knows what would keep causing this to occur.

    ALL DIM updates must be done in the PC Administrator Mode. So a Right Click and RUN as Admin is needed if the user Profile does not default to Admin on login to the PC. DIM updates do system file installs which only Admin allows.

    Running a Executable installer defaults to Admin by default so a RUN As is not needed.
    ...I always run my main apps (DIM, Daz Studio, Carrara, etc...) in Admin Mode. I have changed no user protocols on my system since setting it up over a year ago and again, this never happened before the 1.0.1.115 update.
  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    Morning. Feeble yellow sun struggling against a grim grey sky , chilly south wind breaking over the last of a warm spell bringing showers of brown gold leaves on street and roof and paving outside my window today :)

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ps1borg said:
    Seems the new Mac Pro is a lot faster than the older ones under the hood - it renders Lightwave volumetrics at least fifteen times faster - core for core - meh can't help thinking glass half empty stuff, there must be a way to get older models running at least nearly as quick :lol:


    ...well part of the difference may be the fact that two separate processors have to continually communicate between each other as well as with memory so the "attention" has to be split between both functions. With all 12 cores on one CPU it's back down to the task of just passing instructions between it and the memory to deal with.

    There also may be other improvements like a "fatter" pipeline between memory and CPU (kind of like adding more lanes to a superhighway). When the i7 was released it had triple the memory pipeline width as well as significantly increased memory caching of the old Core Quad LGA775 CPUs.

    Went to a presentation by a local distributor about the differences before Christmas, should have paid more attention. One Intel Xeon E5-2697 V2 is 22nm tech, 4 channel memory, 30MB cache vs two Intel Xeon X5650 45 nm tech, 3 channel memory, 20MB cache. Am cynical enough about sales pitches to expect the machine to maybe run a little slower perhaps, never expected big speed increases in processor intensive stuff like volumetric lighting :lol:

  • starionwolfstarionwolf Posts: 3,670
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...well you could always go from The east coast (where I believe starionwolf lives) through Europe to get there as well. Then you'd see two sunrises and have more landforms to fly over so you have something to look at out the window. Going either way you effectively lose two days.

    Just for fun I did a search for flights flying east:

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    no flights to narnia -tee hee

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    they released the gianni thread. bummers

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    no flights to narnia -tee hee

    No flights to Xanadu either, perhaps that wonder woman airplane should go into production :lol:

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036
    edited December 1969

    ps1borg said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ps1borg said:
    Seems the new Mac Pro is a lot faster than the older ones under the hood - it renders Lightwave volumetrics at least fifteen times faster - core for core - meh can't help thinking glass half empty stuff, there must be a way to get older models running at least nearly as quick :lol:


    ...well part of the difference may be the fact that two separate processors have to continually communicate between each other as well as with memory so the "attention" has to be split between both functions. With all 12 cores on one CPU it's back down to the task of just passing instructions between it and the memory to deal with.

    There also may be other improvements like a "fatter" pipeline between memory and CPU (kind of like adding more lanes to a superhighway). When the i7 was released it had triple the memory pipeline width as well as significantly increased memory caching of the old Core Quad LGA775 CPUs.

    Went to a presentation by a local distributor about the differences before Christmas, should have paid more attention. One Intel Xeon E5-2697 V2 is 22nm tech, 4 channel memory, 30MB cache vs two Intel Xeon X5650 45 nm tech, 3 channel memory, 20MB cache. Am cynical enough about sales pitches to expect the machine to maybe run a little slower perhaps, never expected big speed increases in processor intensive stuff like volumetric lighting :lol:
    ...ahh, quad channel, there again explains improved performance as the memory load is distributed equally across 4 memory sticks instead of just three as my system has or two as others may have.

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited May 2014

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ps1borg said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ps1borg said:
    Seems the new Mac Pro is a lot faster than the older ones under the hood - it renders Lightwave volumetrics at least fifteen times faster - core for core - meh can't help thinking glass half empty stuff, there must be a way to get older models running at least nearly as quick :lol:


    ...well part of the difference may be the fact that two separate processors have to continually communicate between each other as well as with memory so the "attention" has to be split between both functions. With all 12 cores on one CPU it's back down to the task of just passing instructions between it and the memory to deal with.

    There also may be other improvements like a "fatter" pipeline between memory and CPU (kind of like adding more lanes to a superhighway). When the i7 was released it had triple the memory pipeline width as well as significantly increased memory caching of the old Core Quad LGA775 CPUs.

    Went to a presentation by a local distributor about the differences before Christmas, should have paid more attention. One Intel Xeon E5-2697 V2 is 22nm tech, 4 channel memory, 30MB cache vs two Intel Xeon X5650 45 nm tech, 3 channel memory, 20MB cache. Am cynical enough about sales pitches to expect the machine to maybe run a little slower perhaps, never expected big speed increases in processor intensive stuff like volumetric lighting :lol:
    ...ahh, quad channel, there again explains improved performance as the memory load is distributed equally across 4 memory sticks instead of just three as my system has or two as others may have.

    My knowledge of that kind of hardware isn't as detailed as perhaps it should be but yes, the 2010 Mac Pro has three 16 GB sticks and the 2013 Mac Pro has four 16 GB sticks. I know the ECC RAM copes with random bit flips and the memory bus speed is 1866 vs 1366 Ghz without quite knowing what the implications are. Just because I never usually do I'm running a Lightwave benchmark render on both machines, might be interesting but I am kinda blown away and intrigued by up to a forty times increase in render times between the two machines, perhaps I set up some shaders that are way less than optimal (?)

    Phew the two machines are blowing a cartload of hot air right now :lol:

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    ps1borg said:
    no flights to narnia -tee hee

    No flights to Xanadu either, perhaps that wonder woman airplane should go into production :lol:

    xanadu = olivia newton john on roller skates :)

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036
    edited May 2014

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...well you could always go from The east coast (where I believe starionwolf lives) through Europe to get there as well. Then you'd see two sunrises and have more landforms to fly over so you have something to look at out the window. Going either way you effectively lose two days.

    Just for fun I did a search for flights flying east:
    ...umm Malaysia Airlines? If I'm not correct that isn't that the airline that lost 777 under mysterious circumstances in the southern Indian Ocean a month ago?

    I'd go to IAD and take Emerates Airways myself.. 777-300 to Dubai, Airbus 380 (the big double deck plane) to Sydney. Total flying time 29 hrs 10 min with a 2 hr 15 min layover in Dubai. yeah a bit more expensive but arguably the #1 airline in the world and you only need to make one plane change enroute.

    Of course if you are more budget minded and don't want to spend hours and hours over boring open ocean, there's always a connection with Aeroflop/China Southern (formerly part of CAAC which jokingly was always referred to as "China Airlines Always Crashes") through Moscow and Guangzhou. Unfortunately it is three days total as you spend a good part of two days in both Moscow and Guangzhou (over 9 hrs at each stop). Fortunately all flights are on modern western built aircraft (Boeing and Airbus) instead of old Soviet era relics.

    If adventure is your thing and you really need to get out and stretch the legs that may be the best deal going.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036
    edited December 1969

    ps1borg said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ps1borg said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ps1borg said:
    Seems the new Mac Pro is a lot faster than the older ones under the hood - it renders Lightwave volumetrics at least fifteen times faster - core for core - meh can't help thinking glass half empty stuff, there must be a way to get older models running at least nearly as quick :lol:


    ...well part of the difference may be the fact that two separate processors have to continually communicate between each other as well as with memory so the "attention" has to be split between both functions. With all 12 cores on one CPU it's back down to the task of just passing instructions between it and the memory to deal with.

    There also may be other improvements like a "fatter" pipeline between memory and CPU (kind of like adding more lanes to a superhighway). When the i7 was released it had triple the memory pipeline width as well as significantly increased memory caching of the old Core Quad LGA775 CPUs.

    Went to a presentation by a local distributor about the differences before Christmas, should have paid more attention. One Intel Xeon E5-2697 V2 is 22nm tech, 4 channel memory, 30MB cache vs two Intel Xeon X5650 45 nm tech, 3 channel memory, 20MB cache. Am cynical enough about sales pitches to expect the machine to maybe run a little slower perhaps, never expected big speed increases in processor intensive stuff like volumetric lighting :lol:


    ...ahh, quad channel, there again explains improved performance as the memory load is distributed equally across 4 memory sticks instead of just three as my system has or two as others may have.

    My knowledge of that kind of hardware isn't as detailed as perhaps it should be but yes, the 2010 Mac Pro has three 16 GB sticks and the 2013 Mac Pro has four 16 GB sticks. I know the ECC RAM copes with random bit flips and the memory bus speed is 1866 vs 1366 Ghz without quite knowing what the implications are. Just because I never usually do I'm running a Lightwave benchmark render on both machines, might be interesting but I am kinda blown away and intrigued by up to a forty times increase in render times between the two machines, perhaps I set up some shaders that are way less than optimal (?)

    Phew the two machines are blowing a cartload of hot air right now :lol:
    ...wasn't sure if 16GB sticks were available yet. In that case the memory load is spread over the entire 64 bit kit at once rather than having to wait for one to fill up one set before cascading to the next. 1866Ghz is also pretty shredding. I only have 1366 sticks in my system. Another factor is CAS latency, the lower the number the less delay time between the memory controller and module (stick) to access a particular memory module.

    Yeah I guess that 18 months I spent learning how this stuff actually comes in handy sometimes.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    anybody remember these watchamacallums? :lol:

    don't leave em in the attic. they melty

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  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited May 2014

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ps1borg said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ps1borg said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ps1borg said:
    Seems the new Mac Pro is a lot faster than the older ones under the hood - it renders Lightwave volumetrics at least fifteen times faster - core for core - meh can't help thinking glass half empty stuff, there must be a way to get older models running at least nearly as quick :lol:


    ...well part of the difference may be the fact that two separate processors have to continually communicate between each other as well as with memory so the "attention" has to be split between both functions. With all 12 cores on one CPU it's back down to the task of just passing instructions between it and the memory to deal with.

    There also may be other improvements like a "fatter" pipeline between memory and CPU (kind of like adding more lanes to a superhighway). When the i7 was released it had triple the memory pipeline width as well as significantly increased memory caching of the old Core Quad LGA775 CPUs.

    Went to a presentation by a local distributor about the differences before Christmas, should have paid more attention. One Intel Xeon E5-2697 V2 is 22nm tech, 4 channel memory, 30MB cache vs two Intel Xeon X5650 45 nm tech, 3 channel memory, 20MB cache. Am cynical enough about sales pitches to expect the machine to maybe run a little slower perhaps, never expected big speed increases in processor intensive stuff like volumetric lighting :lol:


    ...ahh, quad channel, there again explains improved performance as the memory load is distributed equally across 4 memory sticks instead of just three as my system has or two as others may have.

    My knowledge of that kind of hardware isn't as detailed as perhaps it should be but yes, the 2010 Mac Pro has three 16 GB sticks and the 2013 Mac Pro has four 16 GB sticks. I know the ECC RAM copes with random bit flips and the memory bus speed is 1866 vs 1366 Ghz without quite knowing what the implications are. Just because I never usually do I'm running a Lightwave benchmark render on both machines, might be interesting but I am kinda blown away and intrigued by up to a forty times increase in render times between the two machines, perhaps I set up some shaders that are way less than optimal (?)

    Phew the two machines are blowing a cartload of hot air right now :lol:
    ...wasn't sure if 16GB sticks were available yet. In that case the memory load is spread over the entire 64 bit kit at once rather than having to wait for one to fill up one set before cascading to the next. 1866Ghz is also pretty shredding. I only have 1366 sticks in my system. Another factor is CAS latency, the lower the number the less delay time between the memory controller and module (stick) to access a particular memory module.

    Yeah I guess that 18 months I spent learning how this stuff actually comes in handy sometimes.

    Am pretty clueless about hardware I guess because I went to software school :lol:

    Interesting results from the benchmark thing:

    Mac Pro 6,1 late 2013 2.7/3.5 Ghz x 12 cores 53 min 9 sec (3189.7 sec)
    Mac Pro 5,1 mid 2010 2.66/3.5 Ghz x 12 cores 59min 35s (3575.1 sec)

    Same scene file and shaders, optimised by the developers for benchmarking,

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    one more cuppa tea tnite.

    7th day of no bus. 2 more days of free.

    walking to the bus again is gonna feel like :down:

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    ps1borg said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ps1borg said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ps1borg said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ps1borg said:
    Seems the new Mac Pro is a lot faster than the older ones under the hood - it renders Lightwave volumetrics at least fifteen times faster - core for core - meh can't help thinking glass half empty stuff, there must be a way to get older models running at least nearly as quick :lol:


    ...well part of the difference may be the fact that two separate processors have to continually communicate between each other as well as with memory so the "attention" has to be split between both functions. With all 12 cores on one CPU it's back down to the task of just passing instructions between it and the memory to deal with.

    There also may be other improvements like a "fatter" pipeline between memory and CPU (kind of like adding more lanes to a superhighway). When the i7 was released it had triple the memory pipeline width as well as significantly increased memory caching of the old Core Quad LGA775 CPUs.

    Went to a presentation by a local distributor about the differences before Christmas, should have paid more attention. One Intel Xeon E5-2697 V2 is 22nm tech, 4 channel memory, 30MB cache vs two Intel Xeon X5650 45 nm tech, 3 channel memory, 20MB cache. Am cynical enough about sales pitches to expect the machine to maybe run a little slower perhaps, never expected big speed increases in processor intensive stuff like volumetric lighting :lol:


    ...ahh, quad channel, there again explains improved performance as the memory load is distributed equally across 4 memory sticks instead of just three as my system has or two as others may have.

    My knowledge of that kind of hardware isn't as detailed as perhaps it should be but yes, the 2010 Mac Pro has three 16 GB sticks and the 2013 Mac Pro has four 16 GB sticks. I know the ECC RAM copes with random bit flips and the memory bus speed is 1866 vs 1366 Ghz without quite knowing what the implications are. Just because I never usually do I'm running a Lightwave benchmark render on both machines, might be interesting but I am kinda blown away and intrigued by up to a forty times increase in render times between the two machines, perhaps I set up some shaders that are way less than optimal (?)

    Phew the two machines are blowing a cartload of hot air right now :lol:
    ...wasn't sure if 16GB sticks were available yet. In that case the memory load is spread over the entire 64 bit kit at once rather than having to wait for one to fill up one set before cascading to the next. 1866Ghz is also pretty shredding. I only have 1366 sticks in my system. Another factor is CAS latency, the lower the number the less delay time between the memory controller and module (stick) to access a particular memory module.

    Yeah I guess that 18 months I spent learning how this stuff actually comes in handy sometimes.

    Am pretty clueless about hardware I guess because I went to software school :lol:

    Interesting results from the benchmark thing:

    Mac Pro 6,1 late 2013 2.7/3.5 Ghz x 12 53 min 9 sec (3189.7 sec)
    Mac Pro 5,1 mid 2010 2.66/3.5 Ghz x 12 59min 35s (3575.1 sec)

    Same scene file and shaders, optimised by the developers for benchmarking,


    pretty marbles

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    Yes they do come up very pretty and shiny :)

  • atticanneatticanne Posts: 3,009
    edited December 1969

    Hi AtticAnne, I haven't seen you in a while. I guess you were busy during the past few weeks. Thanks for popping in.

    tjohn, I like the fairy. Thanks for posting it.

    Thanks, starionwolf. I've been in and out. Real life is one huge mess right now. I had lunch at WoolyLoach's favorite breakfast taco place yesterday, but didn't see him around. I try to at least skim through my forums every day, even though I don't post I'm keeping an eye on all of you.:coolsmile:

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    anybody remember these watchamacallums? :lol:

    don't leave em in the attic. they melty

    Vinyl has had a big revival here, this was huge a month ago http://www.recordstoreday.com.au

  • atticanneatticanne Posts: 3,009
    edited December 1969

    ps1borg said:
    Morning. Feeble yellow sun struggling against a grim grey sky , chilly south wind breaking over the last of a warm spell bringing showers of brown gold leaves on street and roof and paving outside my window today :)

    Egads! I know I'm broke and can't buy anything from the store, but I read this as "freebie" yellow sun and was ready to get it.

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    AtticAnne said:
    ps1borg said:
    Morning. Feeble yellow sun struggling against a grim grey sky , chilly south wind breaking over the last of a warm spell bringing showers of brown gold leaves on street and roof and paving outside my window today :)

    Egads! I know I'm broke and can't buy anything from the store, but I read this as "freebie" yellow sun and was ready to get it.

    Always have some freebie sun and a shady spot to sit in for you here :)

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    AtticAnne you know your welcome over here in my Humid as can be southern Sun any time you like. I get it free too.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036
    edited December 1969

    AtticAnne said:
    Hi AtticAnne, I haven't seen you in a while. I guess you were busy during the past few weeks. Thanks for popping in.

    tjohn, I like the fairy. Thanks for posting it.

    Thanks, starionwolf. I've been in and out. Real life is one huge mess right now. I had lunch at WoolyLoach's favorite breakfast taco place yesterday, but didn't see him around. I try to at least skim through my forums every day, even though I don't post I'm keeping an eye on all of you.:coolsmile:
    ...yeah RL been doing a big number trying to stomp me into the ground. The UI extension looks to be pretty much dead in the water, and the job search is going nowhere. As I mentioned on my other thread, received a preliminary eviction notice on Thursday for which the proceedings will go into effect if I am unable to come up with the back due rent by the 22nd.


    If that miracle turnaround is to happen, it better do so quick.


    In the meantime trying to hang on as best I can to whatever shred of hope is left.

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