The foam Peanuts are a tad too sweet and I ate too much but don't feel full Complaint Thread

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    :shut: was he looking at a girl?

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ps1borg said:
    You own a software program that costs $995 USD? Wow. I cannot afford that.


    Well, not exactly cos I'm in the upgrade program which works out to about a (2 seat) $800 LW tax every two or three years to keep current which aint so bad, depending on what kind of year I'm having work-wise I guess. The Painter tax is around $120 every 18 months, the Final Cut tax around $300 every three or four years and the Poser tax is about $300 every two years. I would pay for Studio if Daz let me.Oh there is a node-locked tax as well where I have to pay for a new seat of, I dunno little utilities, every time I upgrade hardware maybe $200 every three or four years. If I wasn't working I wouldn't worry about upversioning compy's, the biggest expense.


    ...a tax of 300AU$ to use Poser every two years, a 120$ tax on Painter, and a system upgrade tax?

    Sounds awful.

    I thought the VAT's in Europe are bad enough, but a separate tax to use 3D software? That is horrible.

    Looks like Oz is off the "places to retire to" list.

    Hehe technically I guess they are all tax deductions but got to make enough in a year to have tax to deduct from so yes but dont think where you live matters, you still got to pay the upgrade tax wherever :lol:

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207
    edited December 1969

    argh still no shadows on the ground. i changed the specular only light to diffuse and set raytraced shadows.

    She looks totally uninterested. Nice lighting, though, except the shadows...but that's not very noticeable, because you don't see the ground directly under their feet.

    Dana

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036
    edited May 2014

    ps1borg said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ps1borg said:
    You own a software program that costs $995 USD? Wow. I cannot afford that.


    Well, not exactly cos I'm in the upgrade program which works out to about a (2 seat) $800 LW tax every two or three years to keep current which aint so bad, depending on what kind of year I'm having work-wise I guess. The Painter tax is around $120 every 18 months, the Final Cut tax around $300 every three or four years and the Poser tax is about $300 every two years. I would pay for Studio if Daz let me.Oh there is a node-locked tax as well where I have to pay for a new seat of, I dunno little utilities, every time I upgrade hardware maybe $200 every three or four years. If I wasn't working I wouldn't worry about upversioning compy's, the biggest expense.


    ...a tax of 300AU$ to use Poser every two years, a 120$ tax on Painter, and a system upgrade tax?

    Sounds awful.

    I thought the VAT's in Europe are bad enough, but a separate tax to use 3D software? That is horrible.

    Looks like Oz is off the "places to retire to" list.

    Hehe technically I guess they are all tax deductions but got to make enough in a year to have tax to deduct from so yes but dont think where you live matters, you still got to pay the upgrade tax wherever :lol:
    ...I've never had to deal with anything like that here.

    After almost seven years at this, if that were so. I'd have the IRS auditors knocking my door down.

    It's one thing to pay for a software upgrade or licence renewal, but a tax added on tho that?

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  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited May 2014

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ps1borg said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ps1borg said:
    You own a software program that costs $995 USD? Wow. I cannot afford that.


    Well, not exactly cos I'm in the upgrade program which works out to about a (2 seat) $800 LW tax every two or three years to keep current which aint so bad, depending on what kind of year I'm having work-wise I guess. The Painter tax is around $120 every 18 months, the Final Cut tax around $300 every three or four years and the Poser tax is about $300 every two years. I would pay for Studio if Daz let me.Oh there is a node-locked tax as well where I have to pay for a new seat of, I dunno little utilities, every time I upgrade hardware maybe $200 every three or four years. If I wasn't working I wouldn't worry about upversioning compy's, the biggest expense.


    ...a tax of 300AU$ to use Poser every two years, a 120$ tax on Painter, and a system upgrade tax?

    Sounds awful.

    I thought the VAT's in Europe are bad enough, but a separate tax to use 3D software? That is horrible.

    Looks like Oz is off the "places to retire to" list.

    Hehe technically I guess they are all tax deductions but got to make enough in a year to have tax to deduct from so yes but dont think where you live matters, you still got to pay the upgrade tax wherever :lol:
    ...I've never had to deal with anything like that here.

    After almost seven years at this, if that were so. I'd have the IRS auditors knocking my door down.

    It's one thing to pay for a software upgrade or licence renewal, but a tax added on tho that?

    um yes well some call it a software upgrade but to me is just another tax. :lol:

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036
    edited December 1969

    ...but that goes to the vendor, "taxes" usually go to governments.

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...but that goes to the vendor, "taxes" usually go to governments.

    My friend got busted for software piracy, the mega company involved had its own private law enforcement thing going that made him pay a big fine :lol:

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036
    edited December 1969

    ...not good. Fortunately all my 3D software and content/plugins are properly licenced.

    I still never heard of needing to "renew" a licence for apps like my Poser Pro 2012, Carrara 8.5Pro, or Daz Studio 4.6.

  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 5,020
    edited December 1969

    Poser gone the subscribe route or something? Thought was just buy outright.

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...not good. Fortunately all my 3D software and content/plugins are properly licenced.

    I still never heard of needing to "renew" a licence for apps like my Poser Pro 2012, Carrara 8.5Pro, or Daz Studio 4.6.

    Oh the node locked thing is irritating but a lot of utilities do it, like for example Filter Forge, if you want to install on a new compy you pay for a new license. Fair enough I guess. I would pay for Studio if I could :)

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited May 2014

    Spyro said:
    Poser gone the subscribe route or something? Thought was just buy outright.

    Poser doesn't but Maya always had an annual "support" payment, effectively a subscription to stay current :)

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  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 5,020
    edited December 1969

    Ah yup, I do not have so miss read your earlier post lol.

    Lot of apps seen keen on subscription model. I hate the idea. Rather buy not rent, fine if you just wanna try it out for short term

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited May 2014

    Got a real good build of GIMP for Mac OS but the last build I installed was a bit of a clunker so I guess you pay for consistency, amongst other things :)

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  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...not good. Fortunately all my 3D software and content/plugins are properly licenced.

    I still never heard of needing to "renew" a licence for apps like my Poser Pro 2012, Carrara 8.5Pro, or Daz Studio 4.6.

    I think it's a matter of semantics. When you buy a new version, that can be thought of as renewing a license. Correct me if I'm wrong, ps1borg.

    Dana

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    pollen. snitzl all the energy i haz to complain about it

    gargleblaster should clear it all up


    according to my app schedule, today is a carrara day. 2 days a week to try not to forget how to do stuff.

    but the shadows thing in ds haz me stumped. i don't even see how to see what light type it is


    day5 of 10day vacation.
    ahhh running out of time to get projects done. jettison the core, detonation might give us a push, but cannae promise anything

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    DanaTA said:
    argh still no shadows on the ground. i changed the specular only light to diffuse and set raytraced shadows.

    She looks totally uninterested. Nice lighting, though, except the shadows...but that's not very noticeable, because you don't see the ground directly under their feet.

    Dana


    the pirate version of Grease :)

    grease is the word is the word

    heh, should do some grease for the lyrics renders challenge yoo the one that i want ooo ooo ooo
    hmmm how to make aiko resemble the olivia newton john

  • starionwolfstarionwolf Posts: 3,670
    edited May 2014

    ps1borg said:
    Got a real good build of GIMP for Mac OS but the last build I installed was a bit of a clunker so I guess you pay for consistency, amongst other things :)

    I'm not used to the brush selection box in Gimp 2.8. I'm so used to using the old palette in Version 2.6.

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    whaz for lunch today?


    tomato soup and cheesie fries :)

  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393
    edited May 2014

    Just got through re-playing and finishing a very very very old game that I had found. Good memories from when I was a kid :)

    Old platformer called "Tomba!" with a simple (And very silly) story. Evil pigs are the main antagonsits :lol:

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036
    edited December 1969

    ps1borg said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...not good. Fortunately all my 3D software and content/plugins are properly licenced.

    I still never heard of needing to "renew" a licence for apps like my Poser Pro 2012, Carrara 8.5Pro, or Daz Studio 4.6.

    Oh the node locked thing is irritating but a lot of utilities do it, like for example Filter Forge, if you want to install on a new compy you pay for a new license. Fair enough I guess. I would pay for Studio if I could :)
    ...ah I understand now, yes. Most software can only be licenced to one system/node at a time. Again didn't equate this with a "tax" as much as a condition of the publisher.

    Hence why Optitex's Runway designer suite is so bloody expensive as you are required to purchase a minimum of ten licences. (at around 1,100$ each).

    So what does this mean if you have a couple of networked render boxes?

    Also as to FilterForge, you are not allowed to uninstall it from an old machine and reinstall on a new more powerful system you just built without purchasing a new licence (even though it no longer is on the other machine)? I may have to reconsider my plan to purchase it.

    That sounds more like an OEM OS.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036
    edited December 1969

    ps1borg said:
    Spyro said:
    Poser gone the subscribe route or something? Thought was just buy outright.

    Poser doesn't but Maya always had an annual "support" payment, effectively a subscription to stay current :)
    ...Adobe has pushed in that direction as well. You have to read the "fine print" so to say to actually find where to actually purchase a licence for PS/CS to install the full app on your system. More and more, software companies are jumping on the cloud bandwagon (Marvelous Designer has done the same), even MS is looking at doing so.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036
    edited December 1969

    pollen. snitzl all the energy i haz to complain about it

    gargleblaster should clear it all up


    ...Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster?

    "...Its effects are similar to having your brains smashed in by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick"

    A warning:

    "you should never drink more than two Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters unless you are a thirty ton mega elephant with bronchial pneumonia."

  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393
    edited May 2014

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ps1borg said:
    Spyro said:
    Poser gone the subscribe route or something? Thought was just buy outright.

    Poser doesn't but Maya always had an annual "support" payment, effectively a subscription to stay current :)


    ...Adobe has pushed in that direction as well. You have to read the "fine print" so to say to actually find where to actually purchase a licence for PS/CS to install the full app on your system. More and more, software companies are jumping on the cloud bandwagon (Marvelous Designer has done the same), even MS is looking at doing so.

    MAXON has had an annual subscription thing for a while now, that they call an MSA (Maxon Service Agreement) but it doesn't lock you out of the program if it expires or if you cancel it. Studio is like, $640 under their MSA instead of the $3,000+ it usually is. Can buy it normally and as a single copy as well, if you don't think you'll be needing to be at the latest edition each and every time.

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited May 2014

    Kyoto Kid said:
    pollen. snitzl all the energy i haz to complain about it

    gargleblaster should clear it all up


    ...Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster?

    "...Its effects are similar to having your brains smashed in by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick"

    A warning:

    "you should never drink more than two Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters unless you are a thirty ton mega elephant with bronchial pneumonia."


    that's the stuff. takes care of pollen woes.

    they serve it at the restaurant at the end of the universe, through the portal at the city on the edge of forever :)


    headachy woes. cuz i slept with the window open, pollen invaded

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    Rezca said:
    Just got through re-playing and finishing a very very very old game that I had found. Good memories from when I was a kid :)

    Old platformer called "Tomba!" with a simple (And very silly) story. Evil pigs are the main antagonsits :lol:

    looks cute.

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,259
    edited December 1969

    It was dumping raining today. I got my shoes soaked and also my pant legs got soaked too. My umbrella kept most of me dry but not the legs and feet.

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited May 2014

    Morning. Warm today and windy inder a bright blue sky spotted with glowy grey storm clouds, windy enough to blow the first few autumn gold leaves from the trees in our garden :)

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  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ps1borg said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...not good. Fortunately all my 3D software and content/plugins are properly licenced.

    I still never heard of needing to "renew" a licence for apps like my Poser Pro 2012, Carrara 8.5Pro, or Daz Studio 4.6.

    Oh the node locked thing is irritating but a lot of utilities do it, like for example Filter Forge, if you want to install on a new compy you pay for a new license. Fair enough I guess. I would pay for Studio if I could :)


    ...ah I understand now, yes. Most software can only be licenced to one system/node at a time. Again didn't equate this with a "tax" as much as a condition of the publisher.

    Hence why Optitex's Runway designer suite is so bloody expensive as you are required to purchase a minimum of ten licences. (at around 1,100$ each).

    So what does this mean if you have a couple of networked render boxes?

    Also as to FilterForge, you are not allowed to uninstall it from an old machine and reinstall on a new more powerful system you just built without purchasing a new licence (even though it no longer is on the other machine)? I may have to reconsider my plan to purchase it.

    That sounds more like an OEM OS.

    item (d) of their EULA refers to one user account per machine unless you have a volume license but if you write a plugin that's popular on the website you get a free license, I guess it all works for them cos it is very popular :)

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    sounds loik beer weather :)

    iz a nip in the air, enjoying a hot cocoa.


    aiko needs her leg warmers on.
    gianni needs his socks, all three tee hee

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    Rezca said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ps1borg said:
    Spyro said:
    Poser gone the subscribe route or something? Thought was just buy outright.

    Poser doesn't but Maya always had an annual "support" payment, effectively a subscription to stay current :)


    ...Adobe has pushed in that direction as well. You have to read the "fine print" so to say to actually find where to actually purchase a licence for PS/CS to install the full app on your system. More and more, software companies are jumping on the cloud bandwagon (Marvelous Designer has done the same), even MS is looking at doing so.

    MAXON has had an annual subscription thing for a while now, that they call an MSA (Maxon Service Agreement) but it doesn't lock you out of the program if it expires or if you cancel it. Studio is like, $640 under their MSA instead of the $3,000+ it usually is. Can buy it normally and as a single copy as well, if you don't think you'll be needing to be at the latest edition each and every time.


    If a studio wants to stay competitive then it has to stay current with the tools it uses or be innovated out of the market. My personal opinion is if I make money from software then it is fair enough to share that around with the software providers. So long as everyone pays more or less the same price the system stays fair, nobody can compete with places that don't play fair and pirate expensive software.

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