The Wrong Place, Wrong Time Complaint Thread

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  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,095
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    Complaint: Willow is pricy. At least she works in Daz Studio and Poser. She also comes with poses and a complete outfit.

    edit: Ok, that is why she costs an arm and a leg. lol


    ...she kind of looks like Sadie's older sister in the upper pic.
    The 3DU Toon humans do naturally share the same digital DNA. :)
  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    Morning. Bliss to wake up to a big bright blue sky and bright sun for what feels like the first time in weeks. Seem to have slept for almost twenty hours and feeling the last few days pressure ebbing away. Is Friday, haz no complaints except growling tummy saying no more pizza. for a while please !

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    M F M said:
    Complaint: ffs X( - 12 hrs ago I looked at the "Dark Sisterhood" bundle and it contained three items (the character, the outfit, and a pose set) for $20 which was supposed to be 51% off... so I purchased just the outfit and the sewers (which didn't turn up as "free" as a result of the 40-something 'punches' I was supposed to have accrued) for something like $17... and now I see the sewers have been added, the price for the bundle has now turned to $0.00, and I really can't be bothered with a support ticket blah blah blah >_<. I'm also just waiting for the Disney lawyers to wake up and pull the other product that I purchased (has happened before with that vendor, had to get in fast to get a certain Croft set before it was disappeared)...</p>

    @Kulay: definitely sounds scam-worthy to me - perhaps google for the establishment that they claim to represent, and see if it's an institution that anybody has ever heard of?

    @SY: head-wall-banging? sounds like a worthy option right now (>_>)||

    On a positive note, at least it's Friday! \(^_^)/


    ears perk ... iz Friday? horas felices!!!!

    Iz Friday here right now. Monday is too far away to think about and memories of Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday are fading fast :lol:

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    DanaTA said:
    DanaTA said:
    tjohn said:
    Frank0314 said:
    Did you ever have one of those days you just want to grab the rest of the hair you have and pull it out while screaming as loud as you can?

    You mean there are days that are not like that?

    You have my total sympathy. Sometimes work and non-work circumstances conspire to form a perfect storm of suck, and then all you can do is bang your head against the wall until it goes away.

    The suck or your head?

    Dana

    Ideally the suck. Heads are hard to replace, in my experience.

    Agreed.

    Dana

    Headlessness should be avoided at all costs :lol:

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    meh too much to catch up on, haz sorry. This week has been a bit of a blur, a real simple job turned high stakes complicated as if by (black?) magic, sometimes things are like that :lol:

  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,095
    edited December 1969

    ps1borg said:
    DanaTA said:
    DanaTA said:
    tjohn said:
    Frank0314 said:
    Did you ever have one of those days you just want to grab the rest of the hair you have and pull it out while screaming as loud as you can?

    You mean there are days that are not like that?

    You have my total sympathy. Sometimes work and non-work circumstances conspire to form a perfect storm of suck, and then all you can do is bang your head against the wall until it goes away.

    The suck or your head?

    Dana

    Ideally the suck. Heads are hard to replace, in my experience.

    Agreed.

    Dana

    Headlessness should be avoided at all costs :lol:
    Although brainlessness among the general population appears to be on the rise. :)

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    black majik :)

    oo that spell, spell all around yoo ... or was it smell? tee hee

    haven't watched dresden files in a while

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    errg, saw my neighbor as i hobbled up our lil dead end hill. she wants to bring a social worker. >.<<br /> i'm the one s'pposed to be helping people, and bubbies, and the occasional kitteh, not the other way round.

    when i was making the moola i used to send dominos pizza delivery, to people in other states who said they had no food money.
    such was the power of the internet. sucks i can't do that these days.

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207
    edited December 1969

    tjohn said:
    ps1borg said:
    DanaTA said:
    DanaTA said:
    tjohn said:
    Frank0314 said:
    Did you ever have one of those days you just want to grab the rest of the hair you have and pull it out while screaming as loud as you can?

    You mean there are days that are not like that?

    You have my total sympathy. Sometimes work and non-work circumstances conspire to form a perfect storm of suck, and then all you can do is bang your head against the wall until it goes away.

    The suck or your head?

    Dana

    Ideally the suck. Heads are hard to replace, in my experience.

    Agreed.

    Dana

    Headlessness should be avoided at all costs :lol:
    Although brainlessness among the general population appears to be on the rise. :)

    Indeed.

    Dana

  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,095
    edited December 1969

    black majik :)

    oo that spell, spell all around yoo ... or was it smell? tee hee

    haven't watched dresden files in a while


    Smell. "The smell of death around you." ("That Smell" - anti-drug song from Lynyrd Skynyrd's Street Survivors)
  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207
    edited December 1969

    tjohn said:
    black majik :)

    oo that spell, spell all around yoo ... or was it smell? tee hee

    haven't watched dresden files in a while


    Smell. "The smell of death around you." ("That Smell" - anti-drug song from Lynyrd Skynyrd's Street Survivors)

    I was pretty sure it's "The smell of death surrounds you!"

    Dana

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited June 2014

    DanaTA said:
    A few years ago my doctor was trying to get me on meds for high blood pressure. Around then is when I first noticed the pulse in the ear on my pillow. It may have been there to a much lesser degree, but it's not something I ever paid attention to. But it became more prevalent. I tend to think that most people don't really notice it when it's not enhanced by high blood pressure, because it's something that's always there in the background. Things like that you get used to and ignore. It's only when they get more pronounced that you notice and ask questions about it, like she did. I remedied mine by stopping ibuprophen. I had been taking two every day to mitigate inflammation in my knee. Then I was rear-ended on an exit ramp, and had pain, and the doctor prescribed 800mg. of ibuprophen for the pain, and complained about my blood pressure. Then a friend suggested I look into what ibuprophen does. I found that it, along with all NSAIDS, has a particular side effect...elevated blood pressure! I stopped taking it all, and just put up with the pain. When I returned to him for a follow-up, my blood pressure was acceptable to him. I then chewed him out for not thinking about the NSAIDS side effects. He admitted that perhaps he should have considered the ramifications, "...but not everyone reacts to medications in the same way."

    DanaOkay then a possible point but I have always heard my heartbeat laying on my side clearly, if it changes I know to have my BP checked now. I was taken off NSAIDS long ago due to a over prescription for the early onset Arthritis. was on them far to long for my health.

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...I actually have been diagnosed with low blood pressure but still can hear my heartbeat when laying on my side.Ah you too, does your normal body temperature run a few degrees below normal like mine? At 98.6 I have a low grade temp. Mine is around 96.3 most of the time.

    there's no sugar free gatorade. sugarfree electrolytes hmmmmmG2 is 100% sugar free my dear, all over the place done here.

    as near as i can tell, the system isn't designed to catch ya before ya fall.You have Fallen, the immobile section of the Lip requiring a Sippy Cup is proof of that. One TIA is one to many to ignore.

    I am keep getting calls from a number. I finally answered it and it said that I have a grant of X amount. I do not know much details about it but something does not sound right about it. Why would I receive just phone calls for a grant if it was real? Won't it be coming in the mail instead of keep bugging me with phone calls?
    They are called Grants because they are Granted from a request placed by a person to those that offer them. They are not called we call you out of the blue to offer you money for no reason you can think of's. Scam from the word go here, you should report that number to the BBB and your County Police Dept.

    Did you ever have one of those days you just want to grab the rest of the hair you have and pull it out while screaming as loud as you can?
    Today, yesterday, the day before yesterday, the day before that, shall I go on?

    ...yeah and for arthritis the only "legal" OTC medication are NSAIDS as they do reduce joint inflammation (Acetaminophen doesn't and also has deleterious effects on the liver). Many of the prescription grade meds have other undesirable side effects, some which often make just putting up with the pain and stiffness the better choice.
    Actually they do have a few now that are ONLY as bad as the others when taken over long periods, they change mine about every sixteen months to keep the effects from really getting a foot hold. I'll ask my Sis which they have me on now if you like. She is in charge of my meds, I just take what I find in my weekly planner thing each day. My Caretaker has access to my pain meds for bad days but he must clear extra with my Doc before I can have any. I'm a kept man in the medicine department.

    Headlessness should be avoided at all costs :lol:Agree.

    meh too much to catch up on, haz sorry. This week has been a bit of a blur, a real simple job turned high stakes complicated as if by (black?) magic, sometimes things are like that :lol:Why didn't I just think of that and blow this whole long thing off? Oh well...
    Post edited by Jaderail on
  • donahue_shelly@yahoo.com[email protected] Posts: 763
    edited December 1969

    Darn it, I have part of a song running through my head. None of the words, just snatches of the beat. So, it's impossible to find. The radio station played it the other day but their website is not at all easy to navigate.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    if it's jimi hendrix, me too :)

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    DanaTA said:
    tjohn said:
    black majik :)

    oo that spell, spell all around yoo ... or was it smell? tee hee

    haven't watched dresden files in a while


    Smell. "The smell of death around you." ("That Smell" - anti-drug song from Lynyrd Skynyrd's Street Survivors)

    I was pretty sure it's "The smell of death surrounds you!"

    Dana

    FREEBIRD!!

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    almost midnight i haven't made dindins yet.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    ps1borg said:
    M F M said:
    Complaint: ffs X( - 12 hrs ago I looked at the "Dark Sisterhood" bundle and it contained three items (the character, the outfit, and a pose set) for $20 which was supposed to be 51% off... so I purchased just the outfit and the sewers (which didn't turn up as "free" as a result of the 40-something 'punches' I was supposed to have accrued) for something like $17... and now I see the sewers have been added, the price for the bundle has now turned to $0.00, and I really can't be bothered with a support ticket blah blah blah >_<. I'm also just waiting for the Disney lawyers to wake up and pull the other product that I purchased (has happened before with that vendor, had to get in fast to get a certain Croft set before it was disappeared)...</p>

    @Kulay: definitely sounds scam-worthy to me - perhaps google for the establishment that they claim to represent, and see if it's an institution that anybody has ever heard of?

    @SY: head-wall-banging? sounds like a worthy option right now (>_>)||

    On a positive note, at least it's Friday! \(^_^)/


    ears perk ... iz Friday? horas felices!!!!

    Iz Friday here right now. Monday is too far away to think about and memories of Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday are fading fast :lol:


    yesterday is the history, today is a present, tomorrow is a mystery ...

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    Jaderail said:
    DanaTA said:
    A few years ago my doctor was trying to get me on meds for high blood pressure. Around then is when I first noticed the pulse in the ear on my pillow. It may have been there to a much lesser degree, but it's not something I ever paid attention to. But it became more prevalent. I tend to think that most people don't really notice it when it's not enhanced by high blood pressure, because it's something that's always there in the background. Things like that you get used to and ignore. It's only when they get more pronounced that you notice and ask questions about it, like she did. I remedied mine by stopping ibuprophen. I had been taking two every day to mitigate inflammation in my knee. Then I was rear-ended on an exit ramp, and had pain, and the doctor prescribed 800mg. of ibuprophen for the pain, and complained about my blood pressure. Then a friend suggested I look into what ibuprophen does. I found that it, along with all NSAIDS, has a particular side effect...elevated blood pressure! I stopped taking it all, and just put up with the pain. When I returned to him for a follow-up, my blood pressure was acceptable to him. I then chewed him out for not thinking about the NSAIDS side effects. He admitted that perhaps he should have considered the ramifications, "...but not everyone reacts to medications in the same way."

    DanaOkay then a possible point but I have always heard my heartbeat laying on my side clearly, if it changes I know to have my BP checked now. I was taken off NSAIDS long ago due to a over prescription for the early onset Arthritis. was on them far to long for my health.

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...I actually have been diagnosed with low blood pressure but still can hear my heartbeat when laying on my side.Ah you too, does your normal body temperature run a few degrees below normal like mine? At 98.6 I have a low grade temp. Mine is around 96.3 most of the time.

    there's no sugar free gatorade. sugarfree electrolytes hmmmmmG2 is 100% sugar free my dear, all over the place done here.

    as near as i can tell, the system isn't designed to catch ya before ya fall.You have Fallen, the immobile section of the Lip requiring a Sippy Cup is proof of that. One TIA is one to many to ignore.

    I am keep getting calls from a number. I finally answered it and it said that I have a grant of X amount. I do not know much details about it but something does not sound right about it. Why would I receive just phone calls for a grant if it was real? Won't it be coming in the mail instead of keep bugging me with phone calls?
    They are called Grants because they are Granted from a request placed by a person to those that offer them. They are not called we call you out of the blue to offer you money for no reason you can think of's. Scam from the word go here, you should report that number to the BBB and your County Police Dept.

    Did you ever have one of those days you just want to grab the rest of the hair you have and pull it out while screaming as loud as you can?
    Today, yesterday, the day before yesterday, the day before that, shall I go on?

    ...yeah and for arthritis the only "legal" OTC medication are NSAIDS as they do reduce joint inflammation (Acetaminophen doesn't and also has deleterious effects on the liver). Many of the prescription grade meds have other undesirable side effects, some which often make just putting up with the pain and stiffness the better choice.
    Actually they do have a few now that are ONLY as bad as the others when taken over long periods, they change mine about every sixteen months to keep the effects from really getting a foot hold. I'll ask my Sis which they have me on now if you like. She is in charge of my meds, I just take what I find in my weekly planner thing each day. My Caretaker has access to my pain meds for bad days but he must clear extra with my Doc before I can have any. I'm a kept man in the medicine department.

    Headlessness should be avoided at all costs :lol:Agree.

    meh too much to catch up on, haz sorry. This week has been a bit of a blur, a real simple job turned high stakes complicated as if by (black?) magic, sometimes things are like that :lol:Why didn't I just think of that and blow this whole long thing off? Oh well... Thanks for the digest :lol:
  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    ps1borg said:
    M F M said:
    Complaint: ffs X( - 12 hrs ago I looked at the "Dark Sisterhood" bundle and it contained three items (the character, the outfit, and a pose set) for $20 which was supposed to be 51% off... so I purchased just the outfit and the sewers (which didn't turn up as "free" as a result of the 40-something 'punches' I was supposed to have accrued) for something like $17... and now I see the sewers have been added, the price for the bundle has now turned to $0.00, and I really can't be bothered with a support ticket blah blah blah >_<. I'm also just waiting for the Disney lawyers to wake up and pull the other product that I purchased (has happened before with that vendor, had to get in fast to get a certain Croft set before it was disappeared)...</p>

    @Kulay: definitely sounds scam-worthy to me - perhaps google for the establishment that they claim to represent, and see if it's an institution that anybody has ever heard of?

    @SY: head-wall-banging? sounds like a worthy option right now (>_>)||

    On a positive note, at least it's Friday! \(^_^)/


    ears perk ... iz Friday? horas felices!!!!

    Iz Friday here right now. Monday is too far away to think about and memories of Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday are fading fast :lol:


    yesterday is the history, today is a present, tomorrow is a mystery ...

    Wonder if it is possible top sleep for a week?

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,039
    edited December 1969

    tjohn said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    Complaint: Willow is pricy. At least she works in Daz Studio and Poser. She also comes with poses and a complete outfit.

    edit: Ok, that is why she costs an arm and a leg. lol


    ...she kind of looks like Sadie's older sister in the upper pic.

    The 3DU Toon humans do naturally share the same digital DNA. :)
    ...but of what I have seen, Wilow looks to be more so than the others, even Kimberly.
  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    ps1borg said:
    Jaderail said:
    DanaTA said:
    A few years ago my doctor was trying to get me on meds for high blood pressure. Around then is when I first noticed the pulse in the ear on my pillow. It may have been there to a much lesser degree, but it's not something I ever paid attention to. But it became more prevalent. I tend to think that most people don't really notice it when it's not enhanced by high blood pressure, because it's something that's always there in the background. Things like that you get used to and ignore. It's only when they get more pronounced that you notice and ask questions about it, like she did. I remedied mine by stopping ibuprophen. I had been taking two every day to mitigate inflammation in my knee. Then I was rear-ended on an exit ramp, and had pain, and the doctor prescribed 800mg. of ibuprophen for the pain, and complained about my blood pressure. Then a friend suggested I look into what ibuprophen does. I found that it, along with all NSAIDS, has a particular side effect...elevated blood pressure! I stopped taking it all, and just put up with the pain. When I returned to him for a follow-up, my blood pressure was acceptable to him. I then chewed him out for not thinking about the NSAIDS side effects. He admitted that perhaps he should have considered the ramifications, "...but not everyone reacts to medications in the same way."

    DanaOkay then a possible point but I have always heard my heartbeat laying on my side clearly, if it changes I know to have my BP checked now. I was taken off NSAIDS long ago due to a over prescription for the early onset Arthritis. was on them far to long for my health.

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...I actually have been diagnosed with low blood pressure but still can hear my heartbeat when laying on my side.Ah you too, does your normal body temperature run a few degrees below normal like mine? At 98.6 I have a low grade temp. Mine is around 96.3 most of the time.

    there's no sugar free gatorade. sugarfree electrolytes hmmmmmG2 is 100% sugar free my dear, all over the place done here.

    as near as i can tell, the system isn't designed to catch ya before ya fall.You have Fallen, the immobile section of the Lip requiring a Sippy Cup is proof of that. One TIA is one to many to ignore.

    I am keep getting calls from a number. I finally answered it and it said that I have a grant of X amount. I do not know much details about it but something does not sound right about it. Why would I receive just phone calls for a grant if it was real? Won't it be coming in the mail instead of keep bugging me with phone calls?
    They are called Grants because they are Granted from a request placed by a person to those that offer them. They are not called we call you out of the blue to offer you money for no reason you can think of's. Scam from the word go here, you should report that number to the BBB and your County Police Dept.

    Did you ever have one of those days you just want to grab the rest of the hair you have and pull it out while screaming as loud as you can?
    Today, yesterday, the day before yesterday, the day before that, shall I go on?

    ...yeah and for arthritis the only "legal" OTC medication are NSAIDS as they do reduce joint inflammation (Acetaminophen doesn't and also has deleterious effects on the liver). Many of the prescription grade meds have other undesirable side effects, some which often make just putting up with the pain and stiffness the better choice.
    Actually they do have a few now that are ONLY as bad as the others when taken over long periods, they change mine about every sixteen months to keep the effects from really getting a foot hold. I'll ask my Sis which they have me on now if you like. She is in charge of my meds, I just take what I find in my weekly planner thing each day. My Caretaker has access to my pain meds for bad days but he must clear extra with my Doc before I can have any. I'm a kept man in the medicine department.

    Headlessness should be avoided at all costs :lol:
    Agree.

    meh too much to catch up on, haz sorry. This week has been a bit of a blur, a real simple job turned high stakes complicated as if by (black?) magic, sometimes things are like that :lol:Why didn't I just think of that and blow this whole long thing off? Oh well... Thanks for the digest :lol:YW ;-)
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,039
    edited December 1969

    almost midnight i haven't made dindins yet.

    ...just started making mine (21:05 PM PDT which is 00:05 EDT).
  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    Darn it, I have part of a song running through my head. None of the words, just snatches of the beat. So, it's impossible to find. The radio station played it the other day but their website is not at all easy to navigate.

    Read somewhere that ear worms are used to help dementia sufferers remember how to do everyday stuff like making coffee, can't find the article now so maybe was dreaming :lol:

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    almost midnight i haven't made dindins yet.

    ...just started making mine (21:05 PM PDT which is 00:05 EDT).

    +1

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207
    edited December 1969

    ps1borg said:
    ps1borg said:
    M F M said:
    Complaint: ffs X( - 12 hrs ago I looked at the "Dark Sisterhood" bundle and it contained three items (the character, the outfit, and a pose set) for $20 which was supposed to be 51% off... so I purchased just the outfit and the sewers (which didn't turn up as "free" as a result of the 40-something 'punches' I was supposed to have accrued) for something like $17... and now I see the sewers have been added, the price for the bundle has now turned to $0.00, and I really can't be bothered with a support ticket blah blah blah >_<. I'm also just waiting for the Disney lawyers to wake up and pull the other product that I purchased (has happened before with that vendor, had to get in fast to get a certain Croft set before it was disappeared)...</p>

    @Kulay: definitely sounds scam-worthy to me - perhaps google for the establishment that they claim to represent, and see if it's an institution that anybody has ever heard of?

    @SY: head-wall-banging? sounds like a worthy option right now (>_>)||

    On a positive note, at least it's Friday! \(^_^)/


    ears perk ... iz Friday? horas felices!!!!

    Iz Friday here right now. Monday is too far away to think about and memories of Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday are fading fast :lol:


    yesterday is the history, today is a present, tomorrow is a mystery ...

    Wonder if it is possible top sleep for a week?

    It certainly isn't possible for me!

    Dana

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,039
    edited December 1969

    DanaTA said:
    ps1borg said:
    ps1borg said:
    M F M said:
    Complaint: ffs X( - 12 hrs ago I looked at the "Dark Sisterhood" bundle and it contained three items (the character, the outfit, and a pose set) for $20 which was supposed to be 51% off... so I purchased just the outfit and the sewers (which didn't turn up as "free" as a result of the 40-something 'punches' I was supposed to have accrued) for something like $17... and now I see the sewers have been added, the price for the bundle has now turned to $0.00, and I really can't be bothered with a support ticket blah blah blah >_<. I'm also just waiting for the Disney lawyers to wake up and pull the other product that I purchased (has happened before with that vendor, had to get in fast to get a certain Croft set before it was disappeared)...</p>

    @Kulay: definitely sounds scam-worthy to me - perhaps google for the establishment that they claim to represent, and see if it's an institution that anybody has ever heard of?

    @SY: head-wall-banging? sounds like a worthy option right now (>_>)||

    On a positive note, at least it's Friday! \(^_^)/


    ears perk ... iz Friday? horas felices!!!!

    Iz Friday here right now. Monday is too far away to think about and memories of Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday are fading fast :lol:


    yesterday is the history, today is a present, tomorrow is a mystery ...

    Wonder if it is possible top sleep for a week?

    It certainly isn't possible for me!

    Dana
    ...for me, no problem.

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  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    Sleep eat sleep seems real good right now, followed by more eating :lol:

  • M F MM F M Posts: 1,388
    edited December 1969

    ps1borg said:
    Sleep eat sleep seems real good right now, followed by more eating :lol:

    Follow the Way Of The Koala ;-)
  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207
    edited December 1969

    Well, they've changed the Wishlist! I noticed because when I added something to it, I wasn't redirected to the Wishlist page, it just added it quietly. I like that. But, I have one complaint...they broke the script to show specials. they should add that functionality themselves, as well as the ability to show just DAZ Originals. Without that script working it will take ages to look through my wishlist to pick out something that I can use my $6 coupon on, or anything in there that might be on a special sale. One step forward, two steps back. :shut:

    Dana

  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,095
    edited December 1969

    ps1borg said:
    Darn it, I have part of a song running through my head. None of the words, just snatches of the beat. So, it's impossible to find. The radio station played it the other day but their website is not at all easy to navigate.

    Read somewhere that ear worms are used to help dementia sufferers remember how to do everyday stuff like making coffee, can't find the article now so maybe was dreaming :lol:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lccBOAK41Y

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