Can we PLEASE get Freak 6 now?

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,804
    edited December 1969

    It's OK to post readme stubs that are in the product lists, but not those that are found by guessing a URL from not-yet=used SKUs which aren't yet in the public list.

  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 5,020
    edited December 1969

    Ah thanks for the clarification Richard. I remembered there was a time where just posting links to the placeholders that had just a title of the product but nothing more (listed on the read me page) was not allowed, before then it was, and we had a group bout 2 years ago that used to have allot of fun speculating on the titles in MO lol

  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,800
    edited December 1969

    It's OK to post readme stubs that are in the product lists, but not those that are found by guessing a URL from not-yet=used SKUs which aren't yet in the public list.

    Really? I post public ReadMe's all the time, and you guys always remove my posts... :blank:
  • cecilia.robinsoncecilia.robinson Posts: 2,208
    edited December 1969

    Is the readme you're talking about the one with spices in the name? Because, at least in my humble opinion, if a readme - even a placeholder - hits the documentation, it's public information. And thus everybody can talk about it freely.

  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,800
    edited November 2014

    Is the readme you're talking about the one with spices in the name? Because, at least in my humble opinion, if a readme - even a placeholder - hits the documentation, it's public information. And thus everybody can talk about it freely.

    Well, if what Richard says is the case, then there's no reason to hide it...

    http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/20518/start

    Let's see what happens now...

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  • cecilia.robinsoncecilia.robinson Posts: 2,208
    edited December 1969

    Is the readme you're talking about the one with spices in the name? Because, at least in my humble opinion, if a readme - even a placeholder - hits the documentation, it's public information. And thus everybody can talk about it freely.

    Well, if what Richard says is the case, then there's no reason to hide it...

    http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/20518/start

    Let's see what happens now...

    Ah, so it's this one! Sadly, no news for me, I discovered it a few weeks ago (the post with the quote was removed, of course, though nobody - except for the mods, I guess - knows the reason). I wonder whether they mean Brodie to be a male or a female (those names aren't gender-specific).

  • XenomorphineXenomorphine Posts: 2,421
    edited November 2014

    Ah, but the product names are very interesting... The concepts of 'Gingersnap' and 'Peppermint' are quite evocative as titles for poses. Also interesting that they're referencing the two figure names together, as if they are meant to be paired up.

    Of course, there is that great werewolf film about two sisters, 'Ginger Snaps', but the inclusion of the other title probably precludes that subject. :)

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  • ByrdieByrdie Posts: 1,783
    edited December 1969

    Gingersnap and Peppermint? At this time of year? Elves. Santa's not Tolkien's, I'm guessing.

  • XenomorphineXenomorphine Posts: 2,421
    edited December 1969

    So, after a search, I found many results of 'Gingersnap' and 'Peppermint' phrased together in themes to do with ice cream and dairy products.

    However, much more relevant was a result from this:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawberry_Shortcake

    Namely...

    http://strawberryshortcakeandherfriends.wikia.com/wiki/Ginger_Snap
    http://strawberryshortcakeandherfriends.wikia.com/wiki/Peppermint_Fizz

    Just pose set names, but maybe it could imply we're going to get the Genesis 2 equivalent of a cartoonish Kids 4?

    Either that or there'll be an ice cream parlour or coffee shop set. :)

  • cecilia.robinsoncecilia.robinson Posts: 2,208
    edited December 1969

    Ah, but the product names are very interesting... The concepts of 'Gingersnap' and 'Peppermint' are quite evocative as titles for poses. Also interesting that they're referencing the two figure names together, as if they are meant to be paired up.

    Of course, there is that great werewolf film about two sisters, 'Ginger Snaps', but the inclusion of the other title probably precludes that subject. :)

    I found the film's title through UrbanDictionary, but the other terms are incomprehensible to me. And there was a readme for BWC Dance! Poses for Victoria 6 and Belle 6, in the marketplace are sets listing one major shape and the figure, so I don't think they really mean there's a pairing.

    BY THE WAY. Somebody could start a shameless "shipping" project. As we have much fewer males than females in Generation 6, there could be lots of guaranteed drama.

    Gingersnap and Peppermint? At this time of year? Elves. Santa's not Tolkien's, I'm guessing.

    Not Tolkien's elves? There's nothing like that, all elves are decent (high) fantasy creatures, the ones that claim they work for Santa are pervy imposters trying to lure you into buying frenzy :coolgrin:.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,639
    edited December 1969

    I think ginger snap/peppermint evokes toy figures/ fairies/toons . Not my cuppa so I'll likely pass

  • cecilia.robinsoncecilia.robinson Posts: 2,208
    edited December 1969

    I think ginger snap/peppermint evokes toy figures/ fairies/toons . Not my cuppa so I'll likely pass

    Isn't Giselle supposed to be a fairy? And A6 with G6 toony?

  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,800
    edited November 2014

    Giselle is more generally the official "Fantasy" girl (She Freak being the buyout Sci-Fi shape), but yes, fairy none the less. That's why I think her male equivalent should be something more Elven, maybe "Peter" like Peter Pan or something. That way, they make him flight-capable like his girlfriend, and have an excuse to make him into a frolicking Danseur (and even more of an excuse to put him in a pair of tights ;) ).

    But yes, Aiko and Girl are the traditional Stylized girls, Aiko being Anime, Girl being classic Toon. This means that DAZ has even more forms of fiction they want to add to the roster. For the longest time, we've been speculating them to be Disney-themed over in the PC Members forum, legal debate and all. :-)

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  • cecilia.robinsoncecilia.robinson Posts: 2,208
    edited December 1969

    Giselle is more generally the official "Fantasy" girl (She Freak being the buyout Sci-Fi shape), but yes, fairy none the less. That's why I think her male equivalent should be something more Elven, maybe "Peter" like Peter Pan or something. That way, they make him flight-capable like his girlfriend, and have an excuse to make him into a frolicking Danseur (and even more of an excuse to put him in a pair of tights ;) ).

    But yes, Aiko and Girl are the traditional Stylized girls, Aiko being Anime, Girl being classic Toon. This means that DAZ has even more forms of fiction they want to add to the roster.

    Yes, I would appreciate Peter.

    For the longest time, we've been speculating them to be Disney-themed over in the PC Members forum, legal debate and all. :-)

    Everybody has the right to be informed, so let's not talk about PC-only threads if you can't quote them. And I have a feeling DAZ would not risk getting sued by Disney.

  • XenomorphineXenomorphine Posts: 2,421
    edited November 2014

    I doubt Disney would sue for simply emulating the style they, themselves, try to aim for. It's just an artistic technique, after all. Girl 6 would have triggered that, if anything would (or Girl 4, for that matter).

    The only time their legal department might get involved is if someone is trying to make money from a specific commercial character's likeness.

    Even then, we have Snow White and Alice-like dresses for fourth generation figures in the store. I'd actually quite like to see Giselle's shower curtain-created one, from 'Enchanted', personally.

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,639
    edited December 1969

    I think ginger snap/peppermint evokes toy figures/ fairies/toons . Not my cuppa so I'll likely pass

    Isn't Giselle supposed to be a fairy? And A6 with G6 toony?

    Yeah,which is why I don't own them. I'm not really a toon fan and tend to skip them when they are released. I know other people like them though...

  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,800
    edited November 2014

    Everybody has the right to be informed, so let's not talk about PC-only threads if you can't quote them. And I have a feeling DAZ would not risk getting sued by Disney.

    Of course! However, it's a long thread over there and most of it is just bantering the same points over and over, so I'll TR;DR it:

    1. Belle 6 is going to be Stylized based on FBMs.

    2. It's possible that the name implies a Disney theme.

    3. We're not sure how well this legally plays out, but characters like Girl and 3DU's Pixar-esque styles keeps things in the realm of possibility.

    4. Brodie 6 is most likely her counterpart.

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  • NadinoNadino Posts: 258
    edited December 1969

    Um, I dunno guys. She doesn't seem too Disney to me....

  • Male-M3diaMale-M3dia Posts: 3,581
    edited December 1969

    Nadino said:
    Um, I dunno guys. She doesn't seem too Disney to me....

    Yeah, the speculation was way off this time ;)

  • MorpheonMorpheon Posts: 738
    edited November 2014

    O.K., this is getting GD ridiculous. Now DAZ is DUPLICATING character types? We already had Josie and Jayden -- did we REALLY need two new teen characters based on G2F and G2M? Where the hell are Freak 6, Hiro 6, and David 6 (especially since we've already had two of their counterparts -- Aiko 6 and Stephanie 6 -- for months now)? We've got a wide variety of Caucasian-based characters, and we've even got male and female Asian characters, so where are the African male and female characters to complete the trilogy? We've even got Dragon 3, Horse 2, and Big Cat 2, but no Dog 2. Who the hell sets product development at DAZ, and what are they smoking that's causing them to ignore such gaps in the figure lineup?

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,639
    edited December 1969

    DAZ 3d' teens always look weird to me I'm afraid. Brodie's lips are way to red, and they are quite similar to figures we already have in the store. But, my wallet is certainly happy!

  • Scott LivingstonScott Livingston Posts: 4,340
    edited November 2014

    DAZ 3d' teens always look weird to me I'm afraid. Brodie's lips are way to red, and they are quite similar to figures we already have in the store. But, my wallet is certainly happy!


    He'd definitely get teased for those red lips. I know because it happened to me...when I was a teen, people would always ask if I was wearing lipstick (for the record, I wasn't)! ;-) Personally I don't have a problem with Brodie's...in fact they aren't even as red as mine.

    I like Belle a lot... Not sure about Brody in his default form...I wish his face shape was a bit more lifelike. I like the body shape, and I think the face will work well as a base for fantasy characters (Jayce is pretty cool) or to mix with other shapes. I'll definitely be picking them up, but possibly not for a while (PA+PC sales have left me rather broke).

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  • cecilia.robinsoncecilia.robinson Posts: 2,208
    edited December 1969

    Heh, Fast Grab is kind to us today - lots of teen-related stuff: http://www.daz3d.com/fast-grab-3d-models. All Young Teens bundles, Emelie and Edward Odd, their clothes, V5 Elite Ponyytail, M5 Elite Hair, Taylor Hair, Pure Hair Lovely, Pure Hair Crazy, Aave Nainen's clothes (!!!), Raiya's teens...

    Some thoughts on Brodie and Belle.

    They are young teens/faes, which is good. Brodie's face is very similar to Jayden's, Belle is a mix between Josie (face) and Giselle (everything else). The bundles fon't contain skimpwear, which is AWESOME. What sucks is the lack of content for Brodie - it is the first time a major shape got one small bundle (one character, one hair, one outfit, one set of poses). But I like most of the stuff found in the bundles as well as separate items:

    http://www.daz3d.com/brodie-6-bundle (everything, I don't need the poses, but adding the bundle to my wishlist was easier than posting the stuff separately)
    http://www.daz3d.com/belle-6-pro-bundle (I don't need Clair, Aubree, Ladybug and Trendy Accessories)
    http://www.daz3d.com/lilyanne-hair-for-genesis-2-female-s-and-victoria-4
    http://www.daz3d.com/sweetheart-expressions-for-belle-6
    http://www.daz3d.com/rochella-for-belle-6
    http://www.daz3d.com/amazing-skins-for-belle-6-and-brodie-6-bundle
    http://www.daz3d.com/yeah-buddy-mix-and-match-expressions-for-brodie-6

  • XenomorphineXenomorphine Posts: 2,421
    edited November 2014

    O.K., this is getting GD ridiculous. Now DAZ is DUPLICATING character types? We already had Josie and Jayden -- did we REALLY need two new teen characters based on G2F and G2M?

    Have to agree. Although, in fairness, Belle looks a little more realistic than Josie does. At least, from promotional pictures.

    Where the hell are Freak 6, Hiro 6, and David 6 (especially since we've already had two of their counterparts -- Aiko 6 and Stephanie 6 -- for months now)?

    Eh... I still say these characters make Freak 6 obsolete:

    http://www.daz3d.com/michael-6-swole
    http://www.daz3d.com/massive-morphs-for-genesis-2-male-s
    http://www.daz3d.com/boris-hd-for-genesis-2-male-s

    In my view, Freak 6 would suffer the same duplication problems you mention up above.

    We've got a wide variety of Caucasian-based characters, and we've even got male and female Asian characters, so where are the African male and female characters to complete the trilogy?

    http://www.daz3d.com/ryze
    http://www.daz3d.com/tyler-hd-for-michael-6

    I'd have got both, but...

    Ryze requires Gianni - which I would have got for the discount, yesterday, but I was gambling on saving my money in the hope of Belle/Brodie being relevant to my needs. Daz not releasing a hint of what they were, means they lost out on money from me! Sadly, Gianni's gone back up to full price, which means having to wait for ages, again (as well-designed as Gianni is, I can't justify spending that much money on a product which isn't immediately relevant to my project needs).

    Tyler, frustratingly, has a very specific scar/mark on the top of the head. Great character aside from that! But if I want to use the same skin to generate an illusion of more than one ethnic male in a single scene, that mark will destroy it... There's no way to avoid them looking like twins, even if using a completely different shape. With, say, Felicity or Serena, I can create the illusion of several different characters of the same ethnicity.

    Symmetry isn't just aesthetically pleasing. It's practically vital when you want to duplicate a single purchased character and slightly modify them to look like several different people interacting with one another.

    And, as I say, there are Felicity, Serena and products like Sierra, for black female characters. Doesn't matter that Daz, themselves, didn't make them. They're of excellent quality.

    On the other hand, I do see a need for a native American male to compliment the fantastic native American female, Wachiwi.

    The closest I've been able to locate is this:

    http://www.daz3d.com/amon-for-m6

    But I think he's meant to be Eurasian... The skin tone isn't quite tanned enough to look native American.

    We've even got Dragon 3, Horse 2, and Big Cat 2, but no Dog 2. Who the hell sets product development at DAZ, and what are they smoking that's causing them to ignore such gaps in the figure lineup?

    No problem with Dragon 3! :) Would suspect it's infinitely more useful for Daz to hype their services up as a one-stop place for people needing to do fantasy-related art.

    I suspect Dog 2 will be released at around the same time as Cat 2 (whenever that would be). A more direct comparison should really be a 'Big Dog 2', which would be an HD animal able to serve as a wolf and so on. I don't think there's ever really been an official 'Big Dog', however.

    The bottom line is that domestic animals won't sell nearly as well as those which can be used for fantasy art (and that's me speaking as someone who has plenty of uses for an HD canine character), which even a horse clearly can be.

    Of course, I'd also like HD versions of a giant squid, funnelweb spider, praying mantis and so on... All of which I'm sure, if scaled up sufficiently, would have tremendous uses for amazing fantasy art!

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  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,800
    edited November 2014


    Eh... I still say these characters make Freak 6 obsolete:

    http://www.daz3d.com/michael-6-swole
    http://www.daz3d.com/massive-morphs-for-genesis-2-male-s
    http://www.daz3d.com/boris-hd-for-genesis-2-male-s

    In my view, Freak 6 would suffer the same duplication problems you mention up above.


    We got M5 Swole and we still got F5, so that wouldn't be a problem. And besides, DAZ seems to love cranking-out just slightly different iterations of the same filled niche this generation, so why not? :)
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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,639
    edited November 2014

    I have to say, given the similarity in the female figures I don't think DAZ has an issue with duplicating past efforts.

    I would personally like something new though... Like a exo extraterrestrial type figure with skins for gen 2 male. A sci-fi figure base... Perhaps both genders for duplicating more humanoid alien types. We have a lot of humans but very little in the way of fantasy skins for characters.


    Sorry doesn't look like my iPad autocorrect likes sci-fi.

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  • XenomorphineXenomorphine Posts: 2,421
    edited December 1969

    We got M5 Swole and we still got F5, so that wouldn't be a problem. And besides, DAZ seems to love cranking-out just slightly different iterations of the same filled niche this generation, so why not? :)

    Just because they can doesn't mean there'd be much to gain by saying they should.

    I'd much rather see a character who offers something new. Not a carbon copy of what's already out there. Otherwise, unless what's the point?

    Besides, as I showed, it's not just one product (SWOLE). There are now three; all of which are catered to doing precisely what a Freak 6 would do.

    I would personally like something new though... Like a exo extraterrestrial type figure with skins for gen 2 male. A sci-fi figure base... Perhaps both genders for duplicating more humanoid alien types. We have a lot of humans but very little in the way of fantasy skins for characters.

    Totally agree! I posted for more skins to complement the Creature Creator sets, over in product suggestions. We could really benefit from someone releasing an array of new skin textures, both conventional and outrageously fantastic.

    Was rather surprised to see that the Midnight Martians products happen to offer several different skins which, when combined with the Creator Creator products, go together amazingly well.

  • cecilia.robinsoncecilia.robinson Posts: 2,208
    edited November 2014

    Making an alien major shape is unlikely: we all know how people look, but with aliens, there are as many ideas as the persons involved. People are safer.

    Animals are safe too. How long have we been waiting for new dogs, cats or farm livestock? Especially the first two, the piggies are still surprisingly alive.

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  • Scott LivingstonScott Livingston Posts: 4,340
    edited December 1969

    We got M5 Swole and we still got F5, so that wouldn't be a problem. And besides, DAZ seems to love cranking-out just slightly different iterations of the same filled niche this generation, so why not? :)

    Just because they can doesn't mean there'd be much to gain by saying they should.

    I'd much rather see a character who offers something new. Not a carbon copy of what's already out there. Otherwise, unless what's the point?

    Besides, as I showed, it's not just one product (SWOLE). There are now three; all of which are catered to doing precisely what a Freak 6 would do.
    More than three, if you count Gianni plus the products that convert F4 and F5 shapes and textures to G2M. But there were multiple Asian-themed morph sets for G2F before Mei Lin came out; multiple fae-themed morphs and characters for G2F before Giselle, and of course there were various teen/youth morphs and characters for both G2 figures before Belle and Brodie. While I agree that there are bigger gaps to fill in the G2 lineup (metaphorically speaking, that is, 'cause it don't get much bigger than the Freak), I'd still be happy to see a Freak 6 product because:

    1. G2M is an ideal platform for a Freak character
    2. Of all the associated products and add-ons
    3. The other muscle products for G2M (excepting Gianni, who has a slightly different niche) don't come with textures, and this is a case where a new high-quality texture with a unique UV would be advantageous

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,639
    edited November 2014

    Making an alien major shape is unlikely: we all know how people look, but with aliens, there are as many ideas as the persons involved. People are safer.

    Animals are safe too. How long have we been waiting for new dogs, cats or farm livestock? Especially the first two, the piggies are still surprisingly alive.

    Well, I'm sure DAZ could fill the sexy female alien niche and make her sell. =) Maybe if we were in luck we'd get a male figure with some tights and a few pairs of shorts.

    But seriously, I think we have done a lot of humans. Would like something a bit different.

    Would like to see the dog and cat sometime in this next lifetime. It seems we have many wild animals, but none that I want more than dogs. I just hope they fix the cat's paws.

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