Fit Control - (Commercial)

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  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited July 2015

    Ok Guys here are the updated morphs. Besides the new ones, refinements were made to existing ones (not listed)

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  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited July 2015

    The lift breast morphs are cool and works well. The rear depth morph (to remove clinging between the glutes) works depending on how the clothes mesh is designed in that area. Unfortunately DS doesn't SNAP the center line (between the glutes) perfectly in that area so there might be distortions on the clothing geometry that runs along the center point. It's an issue with the program itself. Hopefully they fix that in the future. On certain clothing it's not an issue.

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  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited December 1969

    Oh the other update we made to the script was when you had morphs dialled and deleted unused morphs and loaded them back in, the ones with values were populated on the top, messing up the alphabetical order. This has now been resolved. It sorted out when you closed Studio and opened the scene again, but now it does so in the same session.

  • tattooedillusionstattooedillusions Posts: 152
    edited December 1969

    My freaking hero!! lol. Love the new stuff you added. I'm definitely looking forward to the update.

    One question. Do you know of a way to keep the morphs we save (as support assets) when autofitted to G3F or is it not possible? I noticed on outfits I have saved fit control options basically disappear when going on G3F but magically return when putting them back on G2F. If it's not possible or you have no idea if there's a way we can do that it's quite alright.

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited July 2015

    Hmm..Good question. We actually just tested this now and some morphs are going over when fitted to Genesis 3 but not the entire morph list..We trying to find out why. Will post findings as soon as we figure out why this happens.

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  • tattooedillusionstattooedillusions Posts: 152
    edited December 1969

    Thanks Zev0! I didn't mean to create more work for you guys, I was just curious. The ones that you found that did go over, were they still located under Actor>Fit Control or did they go somewhere else?

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited December 1969

    Same location.

  • DkgooseDkgoose Posts: 1,451
    edited December 1969

    I'm sure Zev0 has a G3F version on his long to do list, out of curiousity though, I know this isn't the thread, is the tongue control for g3f on another site one of your projects or a different persons?

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited July 2015

    Yes G3 version of Fit Control is in the works. With regards to that other Tongue Control products from other sites, no those are not from me. Kinda sad people have to copy your product name :P

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  • DkgooseDkgoose Posts: 1,451
    edited December 1969

    Awesome about the G3F version In the works, and I'll wait for the real tongue control to come out for G3F

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited December 1969

    Lol maybe I should call it that, Real Tongue Control :lol:

  • Rod Wise DriggoRod Wise Driggo Posts: 2,208
    edited December 1969

    Hey Zev0, thanks for the cool update. Any idea when it will be available in DIM?

    With regards to your G3F products. Looking forward to some ports. In fact I went back to G2F after some initial playing with G3F. For one as G3F is currently somehow more resource hungry on my old MacBook Pro and Power Pose is no good in making use of the features G3F brings. But even more for the lack of your products. So besides Fit Control I hope that all the other control products (like glute/breast etc.) are also in the works. And hopefully those will also come with a little discount for owners of the G2F version. Was really nice to get some discount for Pose Control that way.

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited July 2015

    The update was just added to the queue:) Should be listed in a day or two. Also I am re-doing the important products from Genesis 2 over. I will try and incorporate a form of discount for those as well.

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  • StrixowlStrixowl Posts: 301
    edited December 1969

    Looking forward to the update(s) to your wonderful products :)

  • Stryder87Stryder87 Posts: 899
    edited December 1969

    Just out of curiosity, what would you suggest when you run into a product that it just doesn't seem to work on? I have a shirt on a G2F that just will not pull away from between the breasts properly without it still having a major indent, it's just pulled away from the body. It looks terrible.

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited December 1969

    Can you post a pic example and list the product? Need to see the results first to see if a solution can be made.

  • Stryder87Stryder87 Posts: 899
    edited December 1969

    Zev0 said:
    Can you post a pic example and list the product? Need to see the results first to see if a solution can be made.

    So here's the before and after shots. I'm using a G2F based on Mei Lin 6, and the shirt from Sunday Casuals: Basics, with the red, sleeveless shirt option. It has the standard cling-wrap effect, but using the Center depth adjustment only creates a Klingon Forehead effect. Nothing I try seems to fix it. Center Depth Smoother only pinches the center in or spreads it out, it doesn't make it flush with the front of her breasts.

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  • DavidGBDavidGB Posts: 565
    edited December 1969

    Well, wanting a simple racer back sports bra for G2F, I ended up converting the one from V4 Basicwear, The initial Autofit gave clingfilm effect between and below the breasts, as well as the front centre of the bra-band stretched low, the back centre of the band pulled into the spine, and some front top centre out as well. Fit Control did a bit better than in that example above, the bumping in the centre not quite so extreme; but while it gave the start of a fix, I still had ridges, bumps, dips etc in all 4 problem areas after much playing with the Fit Control morphs.

    So I did just take it as a gross start to fixing the sports bra up, and after doing the best I could with it, began exporting an obj of the bra (and a simple obj of G2F) to Poser to use the Morph Brush, exporting the obj from Poser again and using Morph Loader Pro to import as a morph back into the bra figure in DS - back and forth quite a few times as I dealt with each area, plus Hexagon Bridge excursions to use some Hexagon tools where they were better for one stage or another. (It actually only takes a few seconds to get each iteration of the bra fix from DS to Poser, and Poser back to DS as new morph - hardly longer than Hexagon Bridging to and fro.)

    What I'm basically saying is that I personally haven't found Fit Control to be a one-stop quick fixer-upper - and frankly never actually expected it to be. i see it more as a first step tool to do a broad beginning of a fix that i then refine with other tools (Poser's Morph Brush and Hexagon being the two i have to hand.), smoothing out the Fit Control result, especially (although not exclusively) with the Poser Morph Brush's flatten and smooth tools.

  • XenomorphineXenomorphine Posts: 2,421
    edited December 1969

    Forgot I meant to post something I found this useful for:

    http://sentinalysis.deviantart.com/art/Puppy-Madness-537303966

    The costume made the cleavage really stand out, but that didn't look at all tasteful for a fun-loving cartoon image. With thanks to Fit Control, I was able to eliminate all such issues in a way I wasn't able to without it. Was surprised to see how much difference all those separate little morph controls in it truly made!

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited July 2015

    stryder87 said:
    Zev0 said:
    Can you post a pic example and list the product? Need to see the results first to see if a solution can be made.

    So here's the before and after shots. I'm using a G2F based on Mei Lin 6, and the shirt from Sunday Casuals: Basics, with the red, sleeveless shirt option. It has the standard cling-wrap effect, but using the Center depth adjustment only creates a Klingon Forehead effect. Nothing I try seems to fix it. Center Depth Smoother only pinches the center in or spreads it out, it doesn't make it flush with the front of her breasts.


    Hmm... What morphs do you have loaded on the figure? Only way I can mimic is if I match the shape exactly, then I can try the morph combo using Fit Control. See attachment of Mei Ling and Basic Casual with no Fit Control morphs applied. MIne does not look like yours on the breast area. Also is the smoothing enabled on the clothing item? It's not enabled by default.

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  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited July 2015

    Here is an example on Mei Ling with some huge breasts using the same top.

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  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited July 2015

    Here it is without Fit Control so you can see what the top looks like as a default fit.

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  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited December 1969

    Forgot I meant to post something I found this useful for:

    http://sentinalysis.deviantart.com/art/Puppy-Madness-537303966

    The costume made the cleavage really stand out, but that didn't look at all tasteful for a fun-loving cartoon image. With thanks to Fit Control, I was able to eliminate all such issues in a way I wasn't able to without it. Was surprised to see how much difference all those separate little morph controls in it truly made!

    Nice Fit Xenomorphine:)

  • Stryder87Stryder87 Posts: 899
    edited July 2015

    Zev0 said:
    Hmm... What morphs do you have loaded on the figure? Only way I can mimic is if I match the shape exactly, then I can try the morph combo using Fit Control. See attachment of Mei Ling and Basic Casual with no Fit Control morphs applied. MIne does not look like yours on the breast area. Also is the smoothing enabled on the cloting item? It's not enabled by default.

    I checked the shirt and I didn't have Smoothing enabled. I toggled it and it did make quite a big difference (see image). I have no idea what's causing the horizontal ridges, but it's been lessened quite a bit by the smoothing. Since that area of her isn't going to be very visible in the final render when it's done, I'm not going to sweat it too much, but I'd still like to figure out what's going on. If anything, I need to figure out how to fix her skirt poking through the bottom of the chair! I think I'll be photoshopping that bit.

    Here are all the morphs I have applied to her related to her body. I didn't include any pose settings as there were none applied to the torso:

    Mei Lin 6 - Actor Morphs

    Mei Lin 6 1
    Mei Lin 6 HD details 1
    Mei Lin 6 Body 1
    Mei Lin 6 Body HD details 1
    Mei Lin 6 Head 1
    Mei Lin 6 Head HD details 1
    Sumiko Head 0.5
    Mei Lin 6 Skirt Helper 100%
    Mei Lin 6 Smoother 01 18.6%
    Mei Lin 6 Smoother 02 16.3%
    Traps Size -0.43
    Glute Crease Left 0.5
    Glute Crease Right 0.5
    Glutes Size 0.54
    Hip Size -0.37
    HipSoftenCurves 0.46
    Thigh Size -0.086
    PBMBaseBreastFixer01 35.8%
    Breast Cleavage 0.40
    Breasts Cleavage 0.40
    Breasts Downward Slope 0.31
    Breasts Flatten Front -10.9
    Breasts Implants -0.25
    Breasts Natural 0.45
    Breasts Small 0.36
    Breasts Upward Slope 0.64
    Ribcage Size 0.034
    !!!Breast Under Smoother4 -68.2%
    !!!Breast Under Smoother5 50%
    !Breast Diameter 22.9%
    !Breast Large 11.8%
    !Breast Pointed -29.9%
    !Breast Sag1 9%
    !Breast Sag2 19.4%
    !Breast Top Curve1 53.1%
    !Breast Top Curve2 49.3%
    Chest Smoother 10.7%
    Breasts Crease -0.16
    Navel 0.65
    Navel Depth 0.42
    Navel Vertical 0.18

    As s side note, it would appear that I have actually applied the same and/or contradictory morphs from multiple morph controls to her. I know I have a couple different G2F morph packs installed. I'm wondering if I should remove one or two and just go with one, but they all have a little something the other doesn't.

    Thanks.

    Edit: I adjusted the morphs to mimic the ones you used on your last example. It works better than the ones I had after smoothing.

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  • Stryder87Stryder87 Posts: 899
    edited December 1969

    Forgot I meant to post something I found this useful for:

    http://sentinalysis.deviantart.com/art/Puppy-Madness-537303966

    The costume made the cleavage really stand out, but that didn't look at all tasteful for a fun-loving cartoon image. With thanks to Fit Control, I was able to eliminate all such issues in a way I wasn't able to without it. Was surprised to see how much difference all those separate little morph controls in it truly made!

    That's such a great scene!! It really captures the fun they're having! It's too bad some of the commenters have to be haters. :-S

  • XenomorphineXenomorphine Posts: 2,421
    edited December 1969

    Thanks Zev/Stryder. :) It was a fun experiment in dynamic movement with a stylised look! The new product helped enormously to make it more of a family-friendly image.

    That string of hidden comments were weird, yes... Their account apparently got banned for offensive behaviour in general.

  • tattooedillusionstattooedillusions Posts: 152
    edited December 1969

    OK so DIM showed the update for Fit Control. Awesome! Installed it, applied it but all the new morphs that were mentioned here and in the readme aren't there for some reason. I uninstalled it totally and re-installed it but keep getting the same thing. Am I the only one?

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited July 2015

    Let me check. Hmm I don't see them in the manual download as well. Wtf..looking into it..sigh.....

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  • tattooedillusionstattooedillusions Posts: 152
    edited December 1969

    Thanks Zev0. I checked the zip file in the downloads section for DIM and the zip that I have are lacking those morphs also.

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited July 2015

    stryder87 said:
    Zev0 said:
    Hmm... What morphs do you have loaded on the figure? Only way I can mimic is if I match the shape exactly, then I can try the morph combo using Fit Control. See attachment of Mei Ling and Basic Casual with no Fit Control morphs applied. MIne does not look like yours on the breast area. Also is the smoothing enabled on the cloting item? It's not enabled by default.

    I checked the shirt and I didn't have Smoothing enabled. I toggled it and it did make quite a big difference (see image). I have no idea what's causing the horizontal ridges, but it's been lessened quite a bit by the smoothing. Since that area of her isn't going to be very visible in the final render when it's done, I'm not going to sweat it too much, but I'd still like to figure out what's going on. If anything, I need to figure out how to fix her skirt poking through the bottom of the chair! I think I'll be photoshopping that bit.

    Here are all the morphs I have applied to her related to her body. I didn't include any pose settings as there were none applied to the torso:

    Mei Lin 6 - Actor Morphs

    Mei Lin 6 1
    Mei Lin 6 HD details 1
    Mei Lin 6 Body 1
    Mei Lin 6 Body HD details 1
    Mei Lin 6 Head 1
    Mei Lin 6 Head HD details 1
    Sumiko Head 0.5
    Mei Lin 6 Skirt Helper 100%
    Mei Lin 6 Smoother 01 18.6%
    Mei Lin 6 Smoother 02 16.3%
    Traps Size -0.43
    Glute Crease Left 0.5
    Glute Crease Right 0.5
    Glutes Size 0.54
    Hip Size -0.37
    HipSoftenCurves 0.46
    Thigh Size -0.086
    PBMBaseBreastFixer01 35.8%
    Breast Cleavage 0.40
    Breasts Cleavage 0.40
    Breasts Downward Slope 0.31
    Breasts Flatten Front -10.9
    Breasts Implants -0.25
    Breasts Natural 0.45
    Breasts Small 0.36
    Breasts Upward Slope 0.64
    Ribcage Size 0.034
    !!!Breast Under Smoother4 -68.2%
    !!!Breast Under Smoother5 50%
    !Breast Diameter 22.9%
    !Breast Large 11.8%
    !Breast Pointed -29.9%
    !Breast Sag1 9%
    !Breast Sag2 19.4%
    !Breast Top Curve1 53.1%
    !Breast Top Curve2 49.3%
    Chest Smoother 10.7%
    Breasts Crease -0.16
    Navel 0.65
    Navel Depth 0.42
    Navel Vertical 0.18

    As s side note, it would appear that I have actually applied the same and/or contradictory morphs from multiple morph controls to her. I know I have a couple different G2F morph packs installed. I'm wondering if I should remove one or two and just go with one, but they all have a little something the other doesn't.

    Thanks.

    Edit: I adjusted the morphs to mimic the ones you used on your last example. It works better than the ones I had after smoothing.

    I would recommend simplifying the amount of breast morphs loaded to get the same breast shape. Having too many morphs pull verts and others counter\jumble up the original position and when you fit clothing to them they are not where they should be causing the clothing to distort in a way that the fit control morphs cannot counter the distortion. Hmmm, that sounded good in my head. Don't know if that makes sense to you lol. Eg in your list you have breast large and breast small dialled. I would zero breast small and just dial the large in lower. That sort of optimization.

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