The I Miss the Old Days Complaint Thread
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...that's surprising. Most of what I came across here is either rather mediocre or is even weirder that the city claims to be. Pine nuts? Who in Gaea's name would put pine nuts on their pizza (now chunks of roasted garlic I can understand and accept)? Smoked salmon? Feta Cheese (maybe the Romans did steal the recipe for pizza from the Greeks like they did for some of their pantheon)? I also pass on any pizza that includes cheddar as one of the cheeses used. It has to just be that lovely stringy mozzarella with maybe some Asiago and Romano thrown in.
Yeah having grown up in the Great Lakes region north of Chicago I'm still pretty much a pizza traditionalist (save I no longer can handle pepperoni as it gives me terrible indigestion, somethign to do with the spiceiness and greasyness together).
My favourite: Italian sausage, mushroom, onion, and black olives, pretty basic.
There used to be a great little shop called Pizza Oasis which made even slices to order. They were taken over by another outfit, and like what happened my favourite bagel shop on the same street, the quality and selection became rather mediocre. The new company only allows special orders on full pies as well. I will confess one of the more "non traditional" toppings I liked that Oasis had was chorizo but that's just a different type of seasoned sausage.
There also used to be this great fired pizza cart at the old foodie cart pod in the neighbourhood I previously lived in. I could get a wonderful 10' sausage and mushroom pizza there for 9$. There was also a small beer garden on the lot which made for a perfect combination oon a nice day. As I learned, the lot was unfortunately sold a couple years after I moved out of he area and replaced with yet another ugly overpriced apartment building liek all the others ther which are turning the street into an district of uninspiring if not simply boring architecture. Not quite Soviet style brutalism, but close in its own manner of blandness and sameness.
Feta on pizza is fantastic.
Keep telling yourself that. It helps fill the hole in your heart. But save up your money anyway, you'll cave.
But you got my wrong address! Not going to tell you where I live.
why don't any dogs have striped coats like a tabby cat?
Also why don't primates like us have patterned skin?
Some chimpanzees seem to have freckle patterns on the bodies... not so much the face, though older chimps can have age spots just like people do... non-chimp people... (had to add that in case we have a planet of the apes scenario soon)... (lately it's been leaning more giraffie though)..
It's not the same as tabby stripes, but dogs with a "brindle" pattern have camo stripes sort of like tabbies, but there are other interference color patterns mixed in so it usually doesn't register as full on tabby types stripes... my late buddy Byrne had a brindle pattern (and so does he dopey little brother Bucky) and the stripes were somewhat noticeable... on some breeds it's more noticeable than others.
Megh, merely a small detail... it's one of the Carolinas... Either the East one or the West one... or maybe the Center one... I forget... ever since 1712 it's been confusing what with it all going back and forth from royal colony to proprietors and back and then independence and the hamster wars and the civil one and the uncivil one and the time it broke off and floated out sea in the 80s... either way nobody is that hard to find... well... maybe Waldo... he's like the master of disguise...
Can you even find him there?... he's like part of the landscape there.
Usually the padding in my cell makes it hard to hear stuff outside.
Oh there was a monkey who was in her own cage. She got pregnant and the zookeepers were wondering how until they remembered that her cage was next to a male monkey of the same species. They did something in between the bars. Not telling you what as this might be a family forum.
It's how families are made.
Non-complaint: Again, music to DAZ by. More Moodies. I love the poems. Together with the music they touch science, philosophy, harmony, spirituality, love, peace, mystery. And this particular YouTube clip has excellently approriate and choreographed visuals too.
Karma!
Yes, it's always more fun when they give you bars instead of padded walls.
Dana
In our newspapers it was said the wall was solid, and the keepers were baffled, until they found a small hole of 9mm (0.35in) in diameter in the wall
In other words, "where there's a will, there's a way".
guess I didn't read the article close enough. Or read an article that didn't make that detail clear enough for me.
In other words, it was no "capture rapture", but required "planned participation".
Meow!
Not sure if this is a complaint or not... in fact I don't know what the hell I'm going on about here, but I felt like saying it here where it's probably less likely to be read in general and perhaps less likely to be taken as a criticism of someone's work.
Every now and then I click on a thread that references a model I haven't seen before, asking about some feature or visual problems with the model... sometimes I'm even looking at the store and I'm scanning over stuff and something catches my eye and I'm like "What the...?"
Recently I clicked on a thread that had a link to a product that was a model of a fairly common structure in the US I feel that particularly item may not have been something the creator was at all familiar with in any way, manner or form... in fact it kinda feels like they guessed at it entirely...
(Please don't try to figure out what item made me write this... I don't want to be picking on anyone... this has been something I've been noticing for a while, so it's not actually this one item, but it did inspire me to say something)
Its clearly not a fantasy version of the item or a low polygon game model… it’s more like “I heard the word once in a noisy room and maybe this is what it looks like based on that?” version…
It's not an unusual item... when the real item isn't being used in its most common or intended application, a version is still a common sight at construction sites, used car lots etc... even if you have never really seen one, there's this thing called "Google" and it has this feature called "Images"... and by using it you can see a lot images of things that you might not remember what they actually look like...
Like if I wanted to make a model of, let's say... a highway overpass (this is not the thing I'm bemoaning), I'd probably take a look at one in real life, kinda remember some details, but just to be sure, take a few digital pix to back up what my optic neurons told my brain was going on outside... they are both so full of crap sometimes you can't always trust either to get it right so back up data is always a better bet.
Maybe I was quarantined at home or thought werewolves were stalking me and couldn't go outside, or perhaps I lived in a land without overpasses and had never seen one and only had heard about them from that crazy old prospector at the local tavern... the guy with the one eye, one arm, one leg and half a parrot that I always used to think was a very unfortunate pirate... the guy who is always going on about that one time he woke up under a highway and survived because the highway was raised above the ground using unknown magic and long forgotten architectural techniques... suppose I believed him and was so inspired by his delusional ravings that I desired to make a model of this unbelievable artifact... then, hopefully I'd use the internet to see if others had mentioned these structures too... then I'd probably see that he wasn't that crazy (in this particular case) and these things were fairly common on earth (Prime 3876-D)...
I'd also probably... actually most definitely, download a couple of example images to use as "Reference Images" to keep my efforts on track... this way I didn't make an overpass that had only 28 centimeters of overhead clearance under it and was four thousand meters wide... sometimes drawing or modeling from memory leads to mistakes and while "eyeballing" it without exact dimensions is often more than sufficient for producing a 2D or 3D representation of an object, it's always a good idea to just back that up with the simplest reference material such as a fricken photo...
Using reference photos is fairly cheap... especially if you don't have a coal fired modem... granted, you still need internet access which usually costs money or at least bartering with vegetables and or goats, but I don't know how you are accessing your 3D brokerage shop without internet access unless some are still allowing you to mail the polygons in using traditional postal services or flying rats... and I can't see a lot of polygons fitting in a regular envelope or even those big yellowish-beige "vanilla" ones that taste nothing like vanilla, and never mind those tiny little capsules they strap on the flying rat's legs... but regardless of how you deliver your polygons to market, reference photos are still a very, very, very valuable resource as opposed to just blindly guessing or relying on the rambling hallucinations of a drunken and most likely insane old coot... (coot as in a "crazy or delusional old man" not the aquatic bird somewhat resembling a duck and belonging to the Rail family)...(that species of bird is actually pretty good and accurate at describing stuff)...
I guess what I'm trying to say is...
It's not for me, I'm not going to buy your confusing model... it's for your own growth as a modeler or artist... it makes your stuff look less weirdly inaccurate...
It also makes your stuff more valuable as an asset... if someone is looking for an overpass (I wanna stress this again... this overpass is a metaphorical example and not about an actual overpass model... if there is a truly terrible overpass model, that looks more like a duck shaped car park on stilts, that's not what I'm writing about)... (really)... if someone is looking for an overpass model, you want them to choose yours... you get the money... and you want them to be satisfied with what they bought... you don't want them to be like "ew... what the hell?... what is that?..." and chuckle as they click off your product page.
You also don't want people to use a terribly inaccurate, horrible interpretation of such a thing which they might not realize is terrible... say they use it in an illustration and the client is like "What the hell bro... I said the scene takes place on an overpass, not a duck shaped car park on stilts... are you kidding me... this is useless!".... maybe not in those exact words, especially if it's more goose shaped... but if a person loses a contest or gets crap from a client because of a weird model, they probably aren't ever going to buy your stuff again... and since this is the kind of community where people are only really encourage to praise or talk about really good models/published artists, less than good efforts will usual fail with no explanation to the creator.
You want to put your best work out every time.
I'm not talking about making a friggin' engineering model... I'm talking about something where your average customer who is looking for said item and probably has seen the object before doesn't see your product and go "what the fudge puppies... did this person ever see a duck before?... wait... it's an overpass?... what?"
I'm also not talking about poor modeling skills... though there are some items I've seen that qualify as such, I'm talking about things that clearly show decent modeling skills, but a reluctance to embrace any form of accuracy or realism or looking-goodness... your model shouldn't look like a one eyed drunk with half a parrot described it to you in his dying last breaths... it should look like "Excellent! That's exactly what I wanted"... or at least "Megh... close enough..." and never "What the ever living fu....?"
I'm also not talking about trying not to rip off a copyrighted item either and merely make an item "in the spirit of that genre"... no... I mean you full on either didn't care or you guessed at what an overpass looks like...(again it's a metaphorical example, not a real product I'm referring to)... That's an entirely different thing if you want to make a thing that looks like it belongs in the Star Wars universe, but isn't anything particular or directly identifiable, so like it's not an X-wing fighter, but maybe looks like the same company that made the X-wing could have conceivable produced the thing you made, but this bears no direct relation to anything existing.
No...
I'm talking about stuff that is not copyrighted or can be easily represented by a generic eyeballed substitution (example: the Statute of Liberty, but not an engineering grade copy)... just something that's not terribly confusing (like a Statue of Liberty with gibbon length arms and stubby penguin legs holding a misshapen blob that might be a corn cob or a torch or maybe even a lumpy octopus).
I keep seeing this kinda stuff lately and maybe it's because it's a statistical anomaly or I've be getting lucky or my eyeballs are just judgemental jerks, but I feel like sometimes stuff like this needs to be mentioned or at least explored conceptually in terms of constructive criticism before it gets out of hand... it doesn't have to be mean or rude... sometimes conservative criticism helps.
Maybe DAZ should encourage new artists to post WIP threads (Work In Progress, not Walrus Intimacy Photos) or create a special mentoring forum for new PAs to post their Work In Progress images for critique by experienced PAs willing to help... I'm thinking that would only make sense if it were a closed forum that was for individuals who've submitted work or sign up specifically for that... not for modeling tips, but for advice about if what they are doing seems to be on the right track or something...
It would definitely be to DAZ's benefit to have more high quality items.
But...
Thats probably a stupid idea because new artists might be viewed as competition... but most of the experienced PAs are kinda cool and I often see them trying to help people out... and really, if its a matter of just saying something like... "it's a really cool model of a modern airliner, but why are the landing gear ducks... and where are the doors and wings?"... That sort expert perspective could make huge difference in a person's efforts and way of making stuff and it's not giving away any secrets and it also encourages a higher quality standard for the store in general and reduces the number of weirdly confusing mistakes and inaccuracies I keep seeing.
But that's just my absolutely stupid opinion and commentary, so I don't see anything ever changing in that regard.
Megh.
Whatever.
Not my monkeys, not my circus... (not literally, just a reference to the saying about a situation that's none of one's business).
there are so many strangely made models in the DAZ store I honestly could never guess which one you meant!
some defy the laws of physics with unattached wheels etc
with AI and it's inaccuracies this really is something human modellers need to improve on to be compeditive and stay relative
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I think I smell pizza. It might be in the oven?
Yeah, I remember a projector and a bandsaw that were not functional.
I found this on Facebook. I was wondering where the table was.
...woke up started up the computer, clicked on the Google Chrome icon and instead of the main screen opening I got a .connect error. I immediately checked to see if my net connection hid gone down but that was OK. .
This wasn't good as I had also left ,my phone at a friend's house yesterday and had no way of contacting them as I couldn't access my email. I tried troubleshooting on my end but no luck and ended up having to uninstall my current edition of Chrome, then re-download and install a new copy, All along I was fearing I'd have to set everything up all over again (like Gmail, my form fills, contact list, extensions/plugins, favourites, etc) which would have taken pretty much the rest of the morning and maybe early afternoon. To my relief, my original setup I had appeared once the install finished.
Wondering if this had to do with the fact Chrome support for W7 ends in a couple days..
I just checked, works on mine
I am using Opera now, everything copied over was and still even signed in on many sites, DAZ still signs me out
...I just had to get into my email as quick as possible to contact that freind about the phone. I'll probably switch in a few days. So how good is the search engine in Opera?
I use Google
also have all my bookmarks , logins, autofills etc
What with this and disappearing short cuts it looks as if your system is in trouble - whether hardware or software I couldn't guess.