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Here we are folks, a side by side facial comparison of Arabella 7 and Victoria 7 literally just loaded as is (although I added hair!) Can render for longer if anyone is interested but I think this gives a pretty good comparison.
I agree with others that I don't see the point of yet another skinny white girl as a base character. I mean she's lovely, but as a base character? There are already several bases that might as well be characters for V7. Surely the point of the Daz base characters is that each fills a very different theme which can then be expanded upon with additional characters?
I'd like to see a proper toon/anime style base for G3F like Aiko/Keiko. Josie7 seems to be doubling for the fairy role right now, but there are so many other areas that aren't being covered at all.
p.s. Why are they all so damn tall? Is it just because it's simpler for using the same poses if they're all the same sort of height?
Being the same height is not critical for sharing the same poses, but similar body proportions are. So if a character is smaller, then the torso, legs, arms etc would need scaling down by the same amount. This however is not realistic as the principal difference in height between tall and short people is in the legs. This is even more true if someone is short because they are young, kids have very different leg/torso ratios to adults.
Greetings,
Thanks for the update! It's still wrong on the Pro and Standard bundle pages, though...
Be nice to see more in the 5'5" range, since that's about average for American females. I always worry about scaling down afterwards, that it'll mess with the proportions in some subtle ways.
[LOL! Ninja'ed by Havos, who explains the 'subtle ways' in which scaling down isn't right...!]
-- Morgan
Anyways guys, I would love to see your Arabella renders if you already got her, throw them at me : )
Here is a quicky of Vyria without the Arabella dialed in, Vyria uses Arabella at 50%. I think the Arabella is what makes her face personally but its not bad without :)
Thanks Silver, Vyria is very nice! I'm not planning on getting Arabella but Vyria is tempting.
Oh, nice! Thank you! I assume A7 (and yes, guys, as she's presently the only A7, I'm calling her A7 ;)) is the one on the left? If so, it looks like she could be a very useful dial-in for the more angular look.
Going by that, however, it doesn't look like her skin is particularly pale. Those complexions look very similar.
I love this "flaca", life is cruel, I do not have capacity for exchange currency just now, so wanted this girl I can not get her. I see her very stylized, ideal for figurines de moda* just what I want for some time. I do not see her anorexic but stylized. Anorexic heads look different from my POV, just like lolly-pop, because reducing weight can't reduce bone width, very obvious in the head, so bone structure of a unhealthy girl is not the same than a possible bone structure of a cursed vampire girl with mysterious changes in body, even bones.
*Of curse, idealized figurines leads to designer to search for anorexic girls, but this is other story.
I'm assuming the textures for the outfits are not included in the Pro bundle even though they are listed on the Arabella luanch page (http://www.daz3d.com/arabella-7-launch#new)? They are not listed on the actual Pro bundle page as I would exepct (http://www.daz3d.com/arabella-7-pro-bundle).
Thank you Silver. Yes its still very pretty without Arabella, which is saying a lot considering the base G3F is pretty ugly - I could certainly shape it into the right look for me with the right morphs anyway. I bet if I dialled V7 into her instead it would end up looking very similar to the Arabella version (which is also very nice, but I can't justify a need for Arabella right now). The skin looks very good anyway, so useable in all kinds of scenarios. The different arm and leg textures are really cool too.
* Must pick up Dahlia as well at some point. She is hot, hot hot!!
I really hope you create a lot of characters for G3F in your usual style, Silver. I just love your style - the big pouty lips and soft doe eyes. You and Thorne are the best! I keep wanting to buy so many of your creations, like Daisy, Anabelle, Echo, Mina, Frankie Von Stein etc but because they're for older generations I force myself not to (because I want to focus on G3 now if possible... for the better bends). I was gonna get Bryonia and Ginger too, but then G3F came along and now I dunno... I want them all, but I want them as G3
. Life is so hard 
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here's a very quick load and render. Personally she feels like the love child of Lilith and Ninive.
Nice render!
Definitely does the character more justice than her promos! Her face looks pretty unique here : )
I too can feel a bit of Ninive touch in her : )
I bought the bundle for the various items contained in it, more so than for the particular figure.
Wow! Such negativity. We all have different tastes and priorities.Me, I'd be fine with no human figures at all and just work with critters you'd find under rocks er whatever. But I got her. Just got her and the dress, hairs, and poses separately though.
Did you all read the blurb or miss this or don't care?
Happy Halloween from Arabella
Agreed about the renders in this thread. Looks like she is worth getting.
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Spit, was that a basic A7 render or with one of the other characters made for her? She has a very nice elongated face in that.
She looks good darned good for 31%. I mean really!
If Christina Hair was also what was used in Spit's render, I'm getting it the moment it next goes on discount!
Wow spit!! She looks great in that render!
Arabella looks nice, but the promos are aweful, too much drama not enough showing the goods. Is there a clean render of her face without the dramatic shadows and expressions? The promo with the green eye shadows make her look like she is 40 years old.
I haven't made up my mind about Arabella. The renders in this thread are tempting me sorely. But...
The "Key advancements with the Genesis 3-based ..." is the same for all the base-7 females, (and will probably be the same for the base-7 males when they appear. Soon. DAZ soon.
) That doesn't take away from the figure in any way, but as all base-7 figures have the same technological advances, it isn't an argument in favor of one figure over another.
Personally, I'm disapponted to see the measurements were wrong and she isn't 5' 4-1/2" tall. I think it's annoying that all the adult females of any Genesis generation, except for Stephanie and Mei Lin, are super-model tall. I'm only 5' 4", (okay, a little shorter in my old age,) and for the most part, those women I've had to look up in order to look them in the eye were not that much taller than me. The 5' 8" to 6' tall women were few and far between. And I know a lot of women an inch or two shorter than me. All these tall women are like a different race! lol...
I have Measure Metrics and do use Figure Metrics, but it would still be nice to have figures that are shorter and correctly proportioned "out of the box."
Just my 2¢ ...
Thanks Silver!
And DemonicaEvilius. I think of the 3 characters in the Pro bundle Vyria is my favorite right now. Everything here is from the bundle. First is at 100% convergance, basic render settings. Second is 90 sum-odd percent convergance.
I don't quite get the issue over height. It's a virtual world and everything is pretty scaled to V4/6/7. The males are generally taller as well.
All of the dimensions are somewhat arbirtary in the absolute and really only make sense in relation to each other.
Sorry, yes I put another face on her. It was like April's latest but it wasn't and I don't remember. Oh, and the renderer was 3Delight.
Nope. It was Friday Hair by PropsChick. I didn't get Christina.
Oh, and the face I used was Lady Rune.
Sigh. I'm sorry. In a thread such as this I should have mentioned everything off the bat.
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Oh man, thank you!
BTW, for anyone with as poor a memory as mine can be I grabbed a little script by DimensionTheory (I hope..Lol) over at Rendo. It runs inside studio (it has its own tab) and you drag n drop a scene .duf (I use Explorer to drag from) on top and it tells you the figures, props, and material zones that are in the scene. That's how I learned I used Friday Hair.
btw; nice Render Spit. Thats way cool.
Your quote here confuses me Spit as I don't see the relveance? Are you trying to say Arbella has features that other Gen 7's don't? Because she doesn't; she is just ANOTHER shape morph with a new UV. If you look at the product pages for every single other G7 character base pages they all this the very same details. That blurb is a copy paste off the the base Genesis 3 Tech.
The reason folks are getting irritated is that she simply isn't needed as a stand alone figure. She would have worked exaclty the same as a shape off of the base G3 or V7s UVs. Its another UV added to an already over saturated market of sameness that not only needs to be kept track of when using her characters, but will get support dropped on in a couple of months as the newest/biggest/shinest next character comes out.
I have only picked up V7. I won't touch any of the others with a 10 foot pole unless they go on super insane discount like 80% off or free during another sale with purchase. Give me something that LEGITIMATELY requires a new UV rework and we'll talk. Otherswise I'm going the way of a Consumer and voting with my wallet as it were. Thats what it wil take for DAZ, as a buisness, to take all the complaints seriously: losing the bottom line. Just voicing opinions here won't do it, nor should it.