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RELEASED: Next Generation Strand Hair. dforce Feisty Feather Bun *Commercial*

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  • chevybabe25chevybabe25 Posts: 1,256

    "One more question, can I hide the wispy hair ends that stand up from the bun at the back? I'm not really sure from the list of morphs, and there's no promo to show it. Thanks!"

    Yes! But its a smidge more work now, because opacity doesn't work. Ill put some directions up in the main body of the post :)

  • chevybabe25chevybabe25 Posts: 1,256

    Bring on the pretty pictures :)

     

  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 1,902

    Looks great. I didn't even know they made improvements. Must have missed the memo.

  • chevybabe25chevybabe25 Posts: 1,256
    edited May 2023

    Looks great. I didn't even know they made improvements. Must have missed the memo.

    Thanks :)

    There was a non memo LOL.  It was slipped in here back in May of last year :  https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/7487046/#Comment_7487046

    SMH

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  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 1,902

    Yeah that looks like nothing to me :)

  • PhatmartinoPhatmartino Posts: 287
    This is awesome! Great looking product, Insta-buy for sure. I've never been a big fan of Strand Based hair and I also prefer dForce-able hair, so I'm so excited to see this improvement. Thank you for spearheading the actual use of these new methods if that's the case and I can't wait to see more! :D
  • chevybabe25chevybabe25 Posts: 1,256

    "This is awesome! Great looking product, Insta-buy for sure. I've never been a big fan of Strand Based hair and I also prefer dForce-able hair, so I'm so excited to see this improvement. Thank you for spearheading the actual use of these new methods if that's the case and I can't wait to see more! :D"

     

    Thanks!! I hope that maybe this will open some minds about dhair ;)

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,744

    chevybabe25 said:

    "One more question, can I hide the wispy hair ends that stand up from the bun at the back? I'm not really sure from the list of morphs, and there's no promo to show it. Thanks!"

    Yes! But its a smidge more work now, because opacity doesn't work. Ill put some directions up in the main body of the post :)

    Cool, thanks! 

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,755
    edited May 2023

    chevybabe25 said:

    Bring on the pretty pictures :)

     

    Love it! insta-buy!

     

     

    Pros: looks fantastic, a big upgrade from the old SBH products. Easy on resources, both in the viewport and during simulation. Love the style!

    Cons: I tried a simulation with just the head forward 90'and the bangs/whisps still didn't not drape fully,  even cranked up the gravity. Maybe an option with future products on different levels of dforce with one for full dforce for extreme positions. It also created a huge saved file at 700 MB when saved. Without the hair, the saved file was at 47 mb since I had a couple of autofit items in the scene

     

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  • chevybabe25chevybabe25 Posts: 1,256

    Yay im glad you like it :)  and man that looks really good!!!!  heart

    I kept the bangs pretty stiff, but if you want them more drapey : you change the bangs surface settings as such :  

    Local Shape Constraint Stiffness (.7 ) is default

    Local Shape Constraint Bias .5

    Local Shape Constraint Gain .5

    Local Shape Constraint Tip Stiffness   .5

    If its still too stiff, play with the Local Shape Constraint Stiffness (.7) and reduce it  until you get something you like

    I have found over the years that these hairs are a little moody with simulations and really need to be adjusted for your pose/need.  But these are the settings you need to play with. 

    Local Shape Constraint Stiffness controls the overall stiffness 

    The bias is where along the shaft of the hair/surface the tip gets control. 

    The gain is how fast it transitions between the root and tip

    The tip stiffness is - how stiff the tip is lol ;)

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,062

    FSMCDesigns said:

    Cons: I tried a simulation with just the head forward 90'and the bangs/whisps still didn't not drape fully,  even cranked up the gravity. Maybe an option with future products on different levels of dforce with one for full dforce for extreme positions.

    In case you missed it, https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/8148626/#Comment_8148626

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,755

    Gordig said:

    FSMCDesigns said:

    Cons: I tried a simulation with just the head forward 90'and the bangs/whisps still didn't not drape fully,  even cranked up the gravity. Maybe an option with future products on different levels of dforce with one for full dforce for extreme positions.

    In case you missed it, https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/8148626/#Comment_8148626

    Yes I saw it and it was helpful, but I feel most would rather just have a one click solution, which I have seen in other products as opposed to chagning settings themselves

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,755

    chevybabe25 said:

    Yay im glad you like it :)  and man that looks really good!!!!  heart

    I kept the bangs pretty stiff, but if you want them more drapey : you change the bangs surface settings as such :  

    Local Shape Constraint Stiffness (.7 ) is default

    Local Shape Constraint Bias .5

    Local Shape Constraint Gain .5

    Local Shape Constraint Tip Stiffness   .5

    If its still too stiff, play with the Local Shape Constraint Stiffness (.7) and reduce it  until you get something you like

    I have found over the years that these hairs are a little moody with simulations and really need to be adjusted for your pose/need.  But these are the settings you need to play with. 

    Local Shape Constraint Stiffness controls the overall stiffness 

    The bias is where along the shaft of the hair/surface the tip gets control. 

    The gain is how fast it transitions between the root and tip

    The tip stiffness is - how stiff the tip is lol ;)

    Thanks.  Looking forward to your next products........are we there yet??!! LOL

  • Destiny's DesignDestiny's Design Posts: 74

    Honestly, all I've done all day is make renders with this hair, really knocked it out of the park with this one @ChevyBabe25 thank you

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  • chevybabe25chevybabe25 Posts: 1,256

    Im so happy dhair is getting a second chance !!! 

    That render looks awesome Destiny!! Im glad you are enjoying it :) heart

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,755
    edited May 2023

    Destiny's Design said:

    Honestly, all I've done all day is make renders with this hair, really knocked it out of the park with this one @ChevyBabe25 thank you

    Agreed. Every since I got home from work and saw it was released, I have been trying it out in different scenes. It really is a joy to work with. I hope it sells very well for you Chevybabe!

     

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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,462
    edited May 2023

    My trial on https://www.daz3d.com/young-anime-heroes-for-genesis-9

    Does one always need to run dForce simulation on this hair?

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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,462
    edited May 2023

    Looks much better on the regular characters.

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  • chevybabe25chevybabe25 Posts: 1,256
    edited May 2023

    Thanks everyone!!! These are all so very nice!!

    Artini, no they don't have to be simulated if you dont want to. 

    Also, for the odder, non standard shapes, you may get away with selecting the scalp and trying to expand the scale :) Even though it is invisible, it still plays a vital part.

     

    *And as another note, if any of you are looking for where the cool morphs are, select the scalp in the scene tab, expand it, and you will see the hair object. Once that is selected, you can click on your shaping tab and all of them are there :)*

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  • lilweeplilweep Posts: 2,489
    edited May 2023

    Artini said:

    My trial on https://www.daz3d.com/young-anime-heroes-for-genesis-9

    Does one always need to run dForce simulation on this hair?

     

    what version of daz are you using? 

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  • Destiny's DesignDestiny's Design Posts: 74

    chevybabe25 said:

    Im so happy dhair is getting a second chance !!! 

    That render looks awesome Destiny!! Im glad you are enjoying it :) heart

    Thanks! Luckily it came together quite fast seeing as it was one I had previously set up, I just replaced the hair with this one (as yours was the originally intended hair)

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,462

    chevybabe25 said:

    Thanks everyone!!! These are all so very nice!!

    Artini, no they don't have to be simulated if you dont want to. 

    Also, for the odder, non standard shapes, you may get away with selecting the scalp and trying to expand the scale :) Even though it is invisible, it still plays a vital part.

     

    *And as another note, if any of you are looking for where the cool morphs are, select the scalp in the scene tab, expand it, and you will see the hair object. Once that is selected, you can click on your shaping tab and all of them are there :)*

    Thanks for the tips.

     

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,462

    lilweep said:

    Artini said:

    My trial on https://www.daz3d.com/young-anime-heroes-for-genesis-9

    Does one always need to run dForce simulation on this hair?

     

    what version of daz are you using? 

    I am using 4.21.0.5 Pro Edition 

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,462
    edited May 2023

    Another render - this time on the younger character. I think hair looks also great here.

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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,462
    edited May 2023

    I have increased a scale on the scalp to 105%, but I am unsure, if it looks better.

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  • chevybabe25chevybabe25 Posts: 1,256

    I think, If you turn on the scalp on to visualize how it fits to the head, size it, and then turn it back off, maybe you will have better luck?  Is this G9?

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,462

    Thanks for the tips.

    Yes it is G9 with https://www.daz3d.com/the-age-for-genesis-9 applied.

     

  • MoussoMousso Posts: 239

    I picked the hair up the first day it came out but only now had the time to play with it. Its really the next generation. Beautiful, very realistic and light on the system. The new shader is to die for! The hair looks great in every light setup. I'm waiting for more styles chevybabe :)

  • chevybabe25chevybabe25 Posts: 1,256

    Seeing how that is G9, I think the shape must just be that extreme. Interesting, because even Nikolai can wear this hair with no problems.

     

    "I picked the hair up the first day it came out but only now had the time to play with it. Its really the next generation. Beautiful, very realistic and light on the system. The new shader is to die for! The hair looks great in every light setup. I'm waiting for more styles chevybabe :)"

    Thank you so much Mousso :)  I appreciate the kind words!!  heart

     

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,744

    Oh wow, just bought it, can't believe how small the hair file is - zip's not even 100 MB! Much appreciated yes!

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