The Wrong Place, Wrong Time Complaint Thread

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  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    Meh riverfoggy night, no moon and you can feel the pressure dropping as a south easterly stirs the trees - only the screech of distant car alarms piercing the gloomy view in our garden tonight.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited June 2014

    bon jour mia amigos :coolsmile:


    puttin on a pot o breakfast coffee

    fixins some toasty cornbread

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited June 2014

    AtticAnne said:
    used my last scoobydoo bandaide. meh. no wanna use plain old bandaid. rutro raggy

    My daughter will happily share her Dora the Explorer bandaids.

    We just ran out of SpongeBob bandaids.


    woes.

    i tried to replace my spongebob toothbrush yesterday. ended up with something called bubble guppies.

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    M F M said:
    nvm


    latin? :lol:

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited June 2014

    without the daily email from daz and rmp, i'd be lonely.


    there's an occassional email from katya looking for marriage. i can marry a woman, i think, in new york. lost track of the legalized states
    no notes from nigeria in a long while.

    ding! coffee and cornbread is ready :)

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  • 1gecko1gecko Posts: 309
    edited December 1969

    Rezca said:
    Zbrushing again.

    It's the Michellin Dino! =D

    ... just kidding, Rez! good job!

  • 1gecko1gecko Posts: 309
    edited December 1969

    Jaderail said:
    1gecko said:
    M F M said:
    1gecko said:
    ... I recently found a website that has a LOT of the old DOS games ...

    If you haven't already, you may also wish to check out Good Old Games ;-)...

    thank you!I second this Thank you. I have found many happy days listed here. Some of which I will soon enjoy again. But silly question time, I have not seen Xcom the original. It was one of my favs back in those days. Anybody got a link?

    the first XCOM?

    X-COM:UFO Defense
    http://www.myabandonware.com/game/x-com-ufo-defense-1pl

    Manual
    http://www.replacementdocs.com/download.php?view.1010

    Yeah, I played this one sooo many times! You will need DOSBox (or the equivalent) of course...

    I think I still have the box and original manuals to this one :) Disks don't work though.

    been playing Knights of Legend myself - was always so disappointed they never made the planned expansions for that one.

  • 1gecko1gecko Posts: 309
    edited December 1969

    DanaTA said:
    I'm still using Photoshop CS2. It's the last upgrade I could afford. I didn't pay nearly that much for it!

    Dana

    same - I owned an old student version Photoshop and when CS2 came out they were offering a pre-release upgrade special. I called them, explained that I had the older version from in college (gave them my reg #) and they let me get in on the upgrade price even though it was to the full version.

    amazing what people will do sometimes if you just ask nicely!

  • 1gecko1gecko Posts: 309
    edited December 1969

    ps1borg said:
    ps1borg said:
    It sounds real pretty. One thing about Aus you notice straightaway is teh awesome flatness going on forever :)

    The countryside is kinda pretty. The cities can be far apart.

    I found a car that has the steering wheel on the right side. The minimum driving age in most states of Australia is 17 but Julie is younger. lol

    Photo courtesy of Yasser Alghofily https://www.flickr.com/photos/4yas/6140034948

    I used to dive in the caves at Port MacDonnel not far from Mount Gambier. Gambier is an old (really really old) volcano, has a bottomless lake that is quite marvellous on the edge of a couple of deserts :)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Lake_(South_Australia)

    http://portmacdonnell.sa.au

    holy CRAP?!?!? You were a cave diver!?!?!

    ... and here I always thought you were the sane one of the bunch of us! O.o

    don't get me wrong - it's beautiful and all, but that is a pursuit with a shockingly high mortality rate (and, being an unlucky individual, I am prone to being 'risk adverse'!)

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036
    edited December 1969

    ps1borg said:
    Best way to mouse a camera is to lock the camera to some target geometry or null using (usually) a "point at" function, that way you can pick the target geometry and move it to reposition the camera, instead of switching to a camera tool all the time. Camera shouldn't be an issue for modelling, you want orthographic views instead :)

    ...personally I liked the ability to "flyaround" the mesh I am working on like Hexagon allows you to do. I find it much more helpful, especially when selecting polygons in a region of the mesh to alter, checking symmetry, etc. It just suits my workflow better.
  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207
    edited December 1969

    1gecko said:
    Jaderail said:
    1gecko said:
    M F M said:
    1gecko said:
    ... I recently found a website that has a LOT of the old DOS games ...

    If you haven't already, you may also wish to check out Good Old Games ;-)...

    thank you!

    I second this Thank you. I have found many happy days listed here. Some of which I will soon enjoy again. But silly question time, I have not seen Xcom the original. It was one of my favs back in those days. Anybody got a link?

    the first XCOM?

    X-COM:UFO Defense
    http://www.myabandonware.com/game/x-com-ufo-defense-1pl

    Manual
    http://www.replacementdocs.com/download.php?view.1010

    Yeah, I played this one sooo many times! You will need DOSBox (or the equivalent) of course...

    I think I still have the box and original manuals to this one :) Disks don't work though.

    been playing Knights of Legend myself - was always so disappointed they never made the planned expansions for that one.

    The ones I miss are the old games from early on in my PC life. Captain Comic, the early Duke Nuke'em before it went 3D and all first person shooter, Crystal Caves, and others in that era.

    What is this DOSBox? Can I get my games back with that?

    Dana

  • 1gecko1gecko Posts: 309
    edited December 1969

    DOSBox? http://www.dosbox.com/download.php?main=1

    an awesome little open source emulator that is *surprisingly* stable and functional! very easy to use

    lets you 'mount' directories/folders as if they were drives (hard drives or CDROM) while providing DOS functionality and a bridge between Windows (and some other OSes I think) output and the DOS environment (so the program you run in the emulator will think you have a SoundBlaster, right memory, mouse, etc.) Even has built-in speed ramping so you can adjust how many cycles your DOS program is getting (since that was the days before threads) so it isn't too fast. I have been very impressed with it


    so yes, you can reclaim your old games in their full glory!

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207
    edited December 1969

    1gecko said:
    DOSBox? http://www.dosbox.com/download.php?main=1

    an awesome little open source emulator that is *surprisingly* stable and functional! very easy to use

    lets you 'mount' directories/folders as if they were drives (hard drives or CDROM) while providing DOS functionality and a bridge between Windows (and some other OSes I think) output and the DOS environment (so the program you run in the emulator will think you have a SoundBlaster, right memory, mouse, etc.) Even has built-in speed ramping so you can adjust how many cycles your DOS program is getting (since that was the days before threads) so it isn't too fast. I have been very impressed with it


    so yes, you can reclaim your old games in their full glory!

    Thanks, I'll check it out.

    Dana

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036
    edited December 1969

    DanaTA said:
    1gecko said:
    Jaderail said:
    1gecko said:
    M F M said:
    1gecko said:
    ... I recently found a website that has a LOT of the old DOS games ...

    If you haven't already, you may also wish to check out Good Old Games ;-)...

    thank you!

    I second this Thank you. I have found many happy days listed here. Some of which I will soon enjoy again. But silly question time, I have not seen Xcom the original. It was one of my favs back in those days. Anybody got a link?

    the first XCOM?

    X-COM:UFO Defense
    http://www.myabandonware.com/game/x-com-ufo-defense-1pl

    Manual
    http://www.replacementdocs.com/download.php?view.1010

    Yeah, I played this one sooo many times! You will need DOSBox (or the equivalent) of course...

    I think I still have the box and original manuals to this one :) Disks don't work though.

    been playing Knights of Legend myself - was always so disappointed they never made the planned expansions for that one.

    The ones I miss are the old games from early on in my PC life. Captain Comic, the early Duke Nuke'em before it went 3D and all first person shooter, Crystal Caves, and others in that era.

    What is this DOSBox? Can I get my games back with that?

    Dana
    ...is that anything like DOS Boot? ;-)

  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393
    edited December 1969

    People still use Photoshop? :ohh: It is expensive $$$ I use Gimp instead. :p

    Photoshop CS isn't that expensive. That's about the price the Extended editions had cost, though... Adobe did away with the "Buy the program and own it!" marketing and is going full-on subscription only based now. "Pay to own it for [X] number of months and if you cancel or can't pay you're locked out of the program!" type stuff now.


    I've tried GIMP once and only once. Suffice to say I didn't enjoy it :B
    There are a few things Photoshop has that GIMP/PSP/etc don't have I use often, so that's one point in PS''s favor, but I've also been using it since I was nine so I'm just a bit biased in my opinion XD
    For what I frequently do, Photoshop is a must. Pretty sure NextLimit and Red Giant aren't going to be making plugins for GIMP anytime soon so....

    I've also tried SAI once. Much easier than PS to get painterly shading and real crisp lines if you're into art like that. But that's ALL that SAI does. It paints and paints some more, but nothing else. Just digital painterly painting.

  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393
    edited December 1969

    GoG's DOS-based games like Populos, Dungeon Keeper, Might and Magic, Rise of the Triad, Ultima and etc all come with DOSBox prepackaged and tailored for that specific game, so 95% of the time you just fire it up and play with no real hassle.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited June 2014

    my dos favorites were the gabriel knight series.


    getting games off floppy disks, hmm. my new compy doesn't have floppy drive and my old 486 doesn't have flash drive ports.

    yet, os still reserves a and b drives.

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  • 1gecko1gecko Posts: 309
    edited December 1969

    heh - yes, A & B are still reserved for floppies and the floppy connectors are still on the MB of almost all MBs!

    and I just 'happen' to have a stack of old 3.5" and 5.25" drives (5 and 3 respectively I think - and yes, they work) in my parts pantry! Just in case I ever run into a need for them!

    problem is, contrary to the marketing at the time, floppies DO 'lose' data over time - generally after about 5 years (unless it is used/accessed) it will start to drop bits here and there and by 8 or 9 it is just garbage. Oh, you can reformat the disk and use it again (most likely), but just take it off the shelf after so many years and access it? nope!

    so needless to say, those 20+ year old floppies I have in the closet aren't really all that useable!

  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,095
    edited December 1969

    1gecko said:
    heh - yes, A & B are still reserved for floppies and the floppy connectors are still on the MB of almost all MBs!

    and I just 'happen' to have a stack of old 3.5" and 5.25" drives (5 and 3 respectively I think - and yes, they work) in my parts pantry! Just in case I ever run into a need for them!

    problem is, contrary to the marketing at the time, floppies DO 'lose' data over time - generally after about 5 years (unless it is used/accessed) it will start to drop bits here and there and by 8 or 9 it is just garbage. Oh, you can reformat the disk and use it again (most likely), but just take it off the shelf after so many years and access it? nope!

    so needless to say, those 20+ year old floppies I have in the closet aren't really all that useable!


    IDK, they make pretty decent coasters. :P
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  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207
    edited December 1969

    my dos favorites were the gabriel knight series.


    getting games off floppy disks, hmm. my new compy doesn't have floppy drive and my old 486 doesn't have flash drive ports.

    yet, os still reserves a and b drives.

    I made a point of putting a 3.5" floppy drive into my system...just in case.

    Dana

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207
    edited June 2014

    my dos favorites were the gabriel knight series.


    getting games off floppy disks, hmm. my new compy doesn't have floppy drive and my old 486 doesn't have flash drive ports.

    yet, os still reserves a and b drives.

    I made a point of putting a 3.5" floppy drive into my system...just in case.

    Dana

    Why did this post twice? :-/

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  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    Morning. Dawn like a luminous tide lapping against the soft lit foggy grey skyline, and raining outside my window - and quiet enough for a mob of big black crows to chorus in the day unopposed, I guess the traffic choppers are grounded cos of the fog :)

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207
    edited December 1969

    1gecko said:
    heh - yes, A & B are still reserved for floppies and the floppy connectors are still on the MB of almost all MBs!

    and I just 'happen' to have a stack of old 3.5" and 5.25" drives (5 and 3 respectively I think - and yes, they work) in my parts pantry! Just in case I ever run into a need for them!

    problem is, contrary to the marketing at the time, floppies DO 'lose' data over time - generally after about 5 years (unless it is used/accessed) it will start to drop bits here and there and by 8 or 9 it is just garbage. Oh, you can reformat the disk and use it again (most likely), but just take it off the shelf after so many years and access it? nope!

    so needless to say, those 20+ year old floppies I have in the closet aren't really all that useable!

    Not always so. To prove it to myself, I just loaded a 3.5" floppy and read several of the essays I wrote in college. The date stamps are in 1991. Every one I tried opened in Word with no problem.

    Perhaps it depends on certain environmental things. Is there a lot of old style fluorescent lighting where you kept them? That has been long known to degrade magnetic media. The professor I had for my COBOL classes told a story of when he was working for the government. They had to destroy data tapes that were no longer needed or used. They'd check them before destroying them. He found tapes that had gone completely blank, entirely erased, from the fluorescent lighting...even though they were stored in boxes. The procedure was to cut the lead off, which had an ID of some sort on it, then destroy the rest in the furnace. He argued that there was nothing there so why destroy it, why not just reuse it? But he was told that is the way they do things. Funny story.

    Heat and humidity can also have some effect I believe.

    Dana

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    ssippss potion for +200 health points.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036
    edited December 1969

    ...as I understand one can still get a licenced version of Photoshop/CS for installing on a local system, Adobe just makes it tricky to find where to buy it so they can railroad people into doing the "cloud" subscription instead.

    I'd never ever work or leave my projects on someone else's server. Besides, when you work online, you are at the mercy of your connection speed as well.

    ...but yes it is expensive, PS alone goes for something like 700$ and the full CS is a lot more.

  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,095
    edited December 1969

    Sitting in the local McDonald's, sucking up their broadband.
    In your face, Hamburger Clown!

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  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...as I understand one can still get a licenced version of Photoshop/CS for installing on a local system, Adobe just makes it tricky to find where to buy it so they can railroad people into doing the "cloud" subscription instead.

    I'd never ever work or leave my projects on someone else's server. Besides, when you work online, you are at the mercy of your connection speed as well.

    ...but yes it is expensive, PS alone goes for something like 700$ and the full CS is a lot more.

    I got I think it was an old version of Photoshop from a magazine or something. Then I upgraded to CS, then upgraded again to CS2 when it came out. I never, ever, paid that much for it. It was more like in the neighborhood of $300.

    As I understand it, you don't actually work online, it just is a subscription online, and you get the newest versions that way. But you download and install locally. Who could work online all day? The bandwidth would be outrageous! I hope that's not what it's like, I'll have to find an older version that's newer than CS2 if that's the case...when I have money for that kind of thing again.

    Dana

  • 1gecko1gecko Posts: 309
    edited December 1969

    Heat and humidity? Heh, Mobile Alabama may not be the North American capital of the two (Tampa, Florida is), but it is still very impressive!!

    And yes, I knew about the florescent lighting - and that may have contributed now that you mention it.

    Was even more amazed to find out how much florescent lighting could affect the performance of the chips themselves!!! O.O Different chips have different tolerances of course.. but in lab we could take the cover off a Motorolla 68000 series system and your code would not run - put it on and it would ;) Not all of the students picked up on this fact (I think the lab instructor was trying to see how many of us would make the connection from the semiconductor series to the logic series of classes)

    anywho... 1991 diskette still readable??? that is **** impressive!

    DanaTA said:
    1gecko said:
    heh - yes, A & B are still reserved for floppies and the floppy connectors are still on the MB of almost all MBs!

    and I just 'happen' to have a stack of old 3.5" and 5.25" drives (5 and 3 respectively I think - and yes, they work) in my parts pantry! Just in case I ever run into a need for them!

    problem is, contrary to the marketing at the time, floppies DO 'lose' data over time - generally after about 5 years (unless it is used/accessed) it will start to drop bits here and there and by 8 or 9 it is just garbage. Oh, you can reformat the disk and use it again (most likely), but just take it off the shelf after so many years and access it? nope!

    so needless to say, those 20+ year old floppies I have in the closet aren't really all that useable!

    Not always so. To prove it to myself, I just loaded a 3.5" floppy and read several of the essays I wrote in college. The date stamps are in 1991. Every one I tried opened in Word with no problem.

    Perhaps it depends on certain environmental things. Is there a lot of old style fluorescent lighting where you kept them? That has been long known to degrade magnetic media. The professor I had for my COBOL classes told a story of when he was working for the government. They had to destroy data tapes that were no longer needed or used. They'd check them before destroying them. He found tapes that had gone completely blank, entirely erased, from the fluorescent lighting...even though they were stored in boxes. The procedure was to cut the lead off, which had an ID of some sort on it, then destroy the rest in the furnace. He argued that there was nothing there so why destroy it, why not just reuse it? But he was told that is the way they do things. Funny story.

    Heat and humidity can also have some effect I believe.

    Dana

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,258
    edited December 1969

    How big is a floppy? If I had a floppy drive, how many discs would I need to back up my terabyte hdd?

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited June 2014

    still haz a few 5 and a quarter floppies. :)


    anyone haz a recommended method for ensuring sweet dreams?

    i like dreams about happy buppies, but i no like when my relatives enter my dreams. i used to have several dreamcatchers, don't know where they went.

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