The completely gratuitous complaint thread

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  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207
    TheKD said:

    Up here in the land of maple syrup and mooses, amazon has started using a new courier service, it's crazy how fast they get packages. Like 3 days. They send an email the morning it's going to arrive as a heads up. My only complaint is that they just leave the packages on the front porch, snap a pic with their cellphones, then drive away. Then an email comes with the pic saying delivered. If electronics arrive on a rainy day, that delivery method can be problematic.

    You're lucky.  I've had packages left in the driveway.  They didn't even have the decency to bring them inside the front gate, let alone leave it on the front step!

    Dana

  • TheKDTheKD Posts: 2,691

    Oh man, that would really piss me off.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036
    edited September 2020

    ...in a really bad mood right now.  Nothing to do with Daz, but RL rubbish I cannot detail for risk of overstepping TOS.

    I need a serious drink.

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  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,095
    edited September 2020

    Non-complaint: My Brother bought us a K-cup coffee maker and a bunch of K-cup coffee for my birfday. So caffeinated! surprise

    Complaint: Our younger dog Gina ran out in the road and was killed a few weeks ago.

    Post edited by TJohn on
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036

    ...oh.  sad

  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393
    TJohn said:

    Non-complaint: My Brother bought us a K-cup coffee maker and a bunch of K-cup coffee for my birfday. So caffeinated! surprise

    Complaint: Our younger dog Gina ran out in the road and was killed a few weeks ago.

    Awwww sorry to hear that :<
     

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,050

    Sorry to hear about your loss, TJohn. 

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207
    TJohn said:

    Non-complaint: My Brother bought us a K-cup coffee maker and a bunch of K-cup coffee for my birfday. So caffeinated! surprise

    Complaint: Our younger dog Gina ran out in the road and was killed a few weeks ago.

    Aww...I'm so sorry!

    Dana

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,049

    Those Nigerian princes are really upping their game.

    Beloved

     

    Thanks for giving me a chance to share the word of God with you. I am very sure you can make a lot of difference by replying to my request, become good friends in our Lord Jehovah and see that with greater power comes greater responsibility . You can make a lot of changes in the life of others with this great offer from the Lord through me to you, most especially the Poor at heart, and the less privileged.

     

    Firstly, I think I would start all with a proper introduction of myself .I am Mrs Caroline Christie, a widow to the late John Christie and am 60 years old, suffering from long term cancer of the breast. From all indications, my condition is really deteriorating and is quite obvious that I may not live more than two months according to my doctor, because the stage at which my cancer is (Stage 4), it is so critical and also to a very severe stage.

     

    My personal physician told me that I may not live for more than 4 months and I am so scared about it. My late husband and I both grew up in a motherless home in Australia we got married and we travel to the United States for our wedding and we decided to stay back there simply because it is a lovely place to stay and we were given a permanent stay after so many years of stay and also we have no child of our own due to one problem and the other, since his death I decided not to re-marry or get a child outside my matrimonial home which the Bible is against even though I wish I had.

     

    It is late now you know, and age is no longer on my side but I still believe the Lord Jehovah will send me someone that will make me smile which is you because the bible says in the book of Psalms 119:116 Uphold me according unto thy word, that I may live, and let me not ashamed of my hope. Psalms 138: 7 Though I walk in the midst of trouble, thou will revive me...... Psalms 145:18 Psalms 57: 7 My heart is fixed. O God my heart is fixed, I will sing & give praise Psalms 51:17 The sacrifices of God are broken spirit, a broken & contrite heart, O God thou will not despise. Psalms 41:1 Blessed is he that considerate the poor, the Lord will deliver him in time of trouble. Two of my favorite verses: Philippians 2:27: For indeed he was sick nigh unto death, but God had mercy on him & that on him only, but on me also, lest I should have sorrow upon sorrow.( I always say this in my mind ).

     

    So, I now decide to give all of my wealth, by contributing to the development of the motherless baby homes, less privileged, needy, poor, charity homes, widows and CANCER patients too in your country and I just want you to forget about the distance between me and you. I am willing to donate the sum of $8.200,000.00, which is still the major inheritance I have left. I wish you could be someone who I could trust with all my heart, to make this wish of mine come true despite my prayers over you. I really need you to use the funds to help the poor which is very essential and also the widow and cancer patient as me. I know this is hard, but you should keep this saying in your heart , I am like Moses in the Bible .

     

    He came to the Red Sea and Pharaoh behind him and no way to turn but God delivered him all by a miraculous deliverance . It will be a miracle from God to be able to help all the dear people God has laid on our hearts, as you have been laid on my heart to do his will. This is why with Jehovah in my heart I contacted you and I want you to contact me so we can be in contact with all the poor souls out there. Give new lives , hopes and days. I have come to find out that wealth acquisition without Jehovah is vanity and I hope you will agree with this also. I will be praying hard that Satan will not stop this effort .

     

    Do contact me and I will tell you more of what you wish to know. Note that the Lord Jehovah has a great reason for contacting me and I will be very grateful if you will heed to the call of Jehovah.

     

    May God bless you

    Mrs. Caroline Christie

    Passable English, the sender name on the email actually matched the name used in the body text, a personalized introduction, they didn't jump straight into the scam...obviously I'm not falling for it, but it's nice to see that they're working a little harder.

  • TJohn said:

    Non-complaint: My Brother bought us a K-cup coffee maker and a bunch of K-cup coffee for my birfday. So caffeinated! surprise

    Complaint: Our younger dog Gina ran out in the road and was killed a few weeks ago.

    Bummer! sad

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,050
    edited September 2020
    Gordig said:

    Those Nigerian princes are really upping their game.

    Beloved

     

    Thanks for giving me a chance to share the word of God with you. I am very sure you can make a lot of difference by replying to my request, become good friends in our Lord Jehovah and see that with greater power comes greater responsibility . You can make a lot of changes in the life of others with this great offer from the Lord through me to you, most especially the Poor at heart, and the less privileged.

     

    Firstly, I think I would start all with a proper introduction of myself .I am Mrs Caroline Christie, a widow to the late John Christie and am 60 years old, suffering from long term cancer of the breast. From all indications, my condition is really deteriorating and is quite obvious that I may not live more than two months according to my doctor, because the stage at which my cancer is (Stage 4), it is so critical and also to a very severe stage.

     

    My personal physician told me that I may not live for more than 4 months and I am so scared about it. My late husband and I both grew up in a motherless home in Australia we got married and we travel to the United States for our wedding and we decided to stay back there simply because it is a lovely place to stay and we were given a permanent stay after so many years of stay and also we have no child of our own due to one problem and the other, since his death I decided not to re-marry or get a child outside my matrimonial home which the Bible is against even though I wish I had.

     

    It is late now you know, and age is no longer on my side but I still believe the Lord Jehovah will send me someone that will make me smile which is you because the bible says in the book of Psalms 119:116 Uphold me according unto thy word, that I may live, and let me not ashamed of my hope. Psalms 138: 7 Though I walk in the midst of trouble, thou will revive me...... Psalms 145:18 Psalms 57: 7 My heart is fixed. O God my heart is fixed, I will sing & give praise Psalms 51:17 The sacrifices of God are broken spirit, a broken & contrite heart, O God thou will not despise. Psalms 41:1 Blessed is he that considerate the poor, the Lord will deliver him in time of trouble. Two of my favorite verses: Philippians 2:27: For indeed he was sick nigh unto death, but God had mercy on him & that on him only, but on me also, lest I should have sorrow upon sorrow.( I always say this in my mind ).

     

    So, I now decide to give all of my wealth, by contributing to the development of the motherless baby homes, less privileged, needy, poor, charity homes, widows and CANCER patients too in your country and I just want you to forget about the distance between me and you. I am willing to donate the sum of $8.200,000.00, which is still the major inheritance I have left. I wish you could be someone who I could trust with all my heart, to make this wish of mine come true despite my prayers over you. I really need you to use the funds to help the poor which is very essential and also the widow and cancer patient as me. I know this is hard, but you should keep this saying in your heart , I am like Moses in the Bible .

     

    He came to the Red Sea and Pharaoh behind him and no way to turn but God delivered him all by a miraculous deliverance . It will be a miracle from God to be able to help all the dear people God has laid on our hearts, as you have been laid on my heart to do his will. This is why with Jehovah in my heart I contacted you and I want you to contact me so we can be in contact with all the poor souls out there. Give new lives , hopes and days. I have come to find out that wealth acquisition without Jehovah is vanity and I hope you will agree with this also. I will be praying hard that Satan will not stop this effort .

     

    Do contact me and I will tell you more of what you wish to know. Note that the Lord Jehovah has a great reason for contacting me and I will be very grateful if you will heed to the call of Jehovah.

     

    May God bless you

    Mrs. Caroline Christie

    Passable English, the sender name on the email actually matched the name used in the body text, a personalized introduction, they didn't jump straight into the scam...obviously I'm not falling for it, but it's nice to see that they're working a little harder.

    Hmmm.... "with greater power comes greater responsibility"... Sounds like uncle Ben and aunt May are running a scam... I wonder if Peter is in on it..?  
    Those spider-gizmos aren't cheap.

    One question about the sum... $8.200,000.00... isn't that $8.20?

    Thats not a huge inheritance.

    But...

    This gives me an idea...

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  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,050
    edited September 2020

    Okay... this is my idea.
     

    Dear Citizen

    We live in uncertain times, surrounded by uncertainty... So certainly you must agree that none of us is certain of the future any longer.Each day brings more bad news and the lunatics are in the hall, the paper holds their folded faces to the floor... And every day the paper boy brings more.There is chaos everywhere and no one knows where to turn. 
    Where have all our heroes gone? 
    And where are all the gods? 
    Where's the streetwise Hercules to fight the rising odds? 
    Isn't there a white knight upon a fiery steed? 
    I’m sure you ask this to yourself all the time... maybe even right now or like five minutes ago... I’m sure you must have asked yourself this at least once this week.

    Once upon a time there were heroes... superheroes.

    They are not all gone.  
    For I am one of the last superheroes left. 
    Although I retired long ago and threw away my cape, I never stopped fight for great citizens like you. 
    Citizens who know a good apple pie when they see one, citizens who love their moms and baseballs... citizens who never fail to salute a flag or anything white, blue and red. 

    I know you comrade are good person. 
    And as good person you must want to do good thing. 
    I have gotten too old to fly and do super things, but I can help you do super things.
    I can help you build a school for the next generation of super heroes. 
    The world needs heroes now more than ever.

    Before I was a superhero I inherited a vast fortune from my family, much of that I used to by super gizmos and spandex costumes, but I did not spend it all. 
    I still have the sum of One million 870 thousand Million US dollars that I can share with the right person willing to do good things with it. 
    I am looking for someone who has always known they are special and has been waiting their whole life to do something great. 
    Someone who is brave, honest and daring... or pretty close to any one of those. 
    Someone with a bank account who is willing to use it for truth, justice and to make couple of dollars on the side too.

    A great man once said “With great power, comes greater chances of getting electrocuted”. 
    Will you risk being electrocuted with the responsibility of One Million 870 Thousand Million US Dollars, to do good things for good peoples? 

    I ask you to stand up and answer that question aloud. 
    Did you hear you say yes? 
    You must have said yes because I send you this special letter knowing you are special. 
    I know I can trust you with One Million 870 Thousand Million U.S. Dollars to put in bank and be hero.

    If you want to be a hero please contact me as possible as soon as.

    Sincerely yours

    Super-Guy-Person X

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  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,207

    laugh  laugh  laugh  laugh  laugh  

    Dana

  • @McLean:  Are you prepared for genuine replies?  Because you know, there are those out there that will jump at the chance.  Despite the complete illogic, utter baffoonery, and unveiled sarcasm (and lack of proper return address) they will come.  Offer a chance at fortune and they will come.surprise  Wizard's first rule:  "People are stupid.  They will believe anything they want to believe.  Or anything that they are afraid might be true."  The mantra of magicians, wizards, salesmen, con-men and politicians the world wide.

  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393
    edited September 2020

    Does anyone know where this dragon was from?  I vaguely, vaguely recall someone saying it came packaged in some version of Poser (Like that cute little raptor in Poser 4)

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036
    edited September 2020

    ...hmm I wonder what the inital deposit is.

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  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,095
    McGyver said:
    Gordig said:

    Those Nigerian princes are really upping their game.

    Beloved

     

    Thanks for giving me a chance to share the word of God with you. I am very sure you can make a lot of difference by replying to my request, become good friends in our Lord Jehovah and see that with greater power comes greater responsibility . You can make a lot of changes in the life of others with this great offer from the Lord through me to you, most especially the Poor at heart, and the less privileged.

     

    Firstly, I think I would start all with a proper introduction of myself .I am Mrs Caroline Christie, a widow to the late John Christie and am 60 years old, suffering from long term cancer of the breast. From all indications, my condition is really deteriorating and is quite obvious that I may not live more than two months according to my doctor, because the stage at which my cancer is (Stage 4), it is so critical and also to a very severe stage.

     

    My personal physician told me that I may not live for more than 4 months and I am so scared about it. My late husband and I both grew up in a motherless home in Australia we got married and we travel to the United States for our wedding and we decided to stay back there simply because it is a lovely place to stay and we were given a permanent stay after so many years of stay and also we have no child of our own due to one problem and the other, since his death I decided not to re-marry or get a child outside my matrimonial home which the Bible is against even though I wish I had.

     

    It is late now you know, and age is no longer on my side but I still believe the Lord Jehovah will send me someone that will make me smile which is you because the bible says in the book of Psalms 119:116 Uphold me according unto thy word, that I may live, and let me not ashamed of my hope. Psalms 138: 7 Though I walk in the midst of trouble, thou will revive me...... Psalms 145:18 Psalms 57: 7 My heart is fixed. O God my heart is fixed, I will sing & give praise Psalms 51:17 The sacrifices of God are broken spirit, a broken & contrite heart, O God thou will not despise. Psalms 41:1 Blessed is he that considerate the poor, the Lord will deliver him in time of trouble. Two of my favorite verses: Philippians 2:27: For indeed he was sick nigh unto death, but God had mercy on him & that on him only, but on me also, lest I should have sorrow upon sorrow.( I always say this in my mind ).

     

    So, I now decide to give all of my wealth, by contributing to the development of the motherless baby homes, less privileged, needy, poor, charity homes, widows and CANCER patients too in your country and I just want you to forget about the distance between me and you. I am willing to donate the sum of $8.200,000.00, which is still the major inheritance I have left. I wish you could be someone who I could trust with all my heart, to make this wish of mine come true despite my prayers over you. I really need you to use the funds to help the poor which is very essential and also the widow and cancer patient as me. I know this is hard, but you should keep this saying in your heart , I am like Moses in the Bible .

     

    He came to the Red Sea and Pharaoh behind him and no way to turn but God delivered him all by a miraculous deliverance . It will be a miracle from God to be able to help all the dear people God has laid on our hearts, as you have been laid on my heart to do his will. This is why with Jehovah in my heart I contacted you and I want you to contact me so we can be in contact with all the poor souls out there. Give new lives , hopes and days. I have come to find out that wealth acquisition without Jehovah is vanity and I hope you will agree with this also. I will be praying hard that Satan will not stop this effort .

     

    Do contact me and I will tell you more of what you wish to know. Note that the Lord Jehovah has a great reason for contacting me and I will be very grateful if you will heed to the call of Jehovah.

     

    May God bless you

    Mrs. Caroline Christie

    Passable English, the sender name on the email actually matched the name used in the body text, a personalized introduction, they didn't jump straight into the scam...obviously I'm not falling for it, but it's nice to see that they're working a little harder.

    Hmmm.... "with greater power comes greater responsibility"... Sounds like uncle Ben and aunt May are running a scam... I wonder if Peter is in on it..?  
    Those spider-gizmos aren't cheap.

    One question about the sum... $8.200,000.00... isn't that $8.20?

    Thats not a huge inheritance.

    But...

    This gives me an idea...

    Dear stupid Anerica person,

    You have much money and I do not. Send me all your money.

    Goodbye.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036

    ...complaint:

    Spent about 45 min on the net looking for a 52 oz refill of Dial "Gold" liquid hand soap. My Doctor (and former family doctor long ago) recommended it for the sensitive often very dry skin I have.  Indeed it works better than any other I've used.  Unfortunately for some reason there has been a severe shortage of the refill bottles seemingly everywhere (even at Amazon and Walmart where I am very reluctant to shop at).  All I can find are the small 7 oz plastic pump bottles which means more plastic waste as I already have a nice reusable glass dispenser for liquid soap and the refill lasts me for a while even with the more frequent hand washing due to COVID (I'd go through about eight of the small ones compared to the one refill bottle).  There are other brands, but they don't work anywhere near as well and some even have ingredients that aggravate my skin condition.   

    Some places like Staples, Lowes and even Amazon do have larger 1 gallon bottles, but they want 40$ - 50$ for just one when the size I am looking for is usually priced between 4$ - 5$.

  • @ Kyoto kid- my store has been unable to procure small to medium, empty,  glass bottles for a couple of months now. Even some of our bigger herb and supplement vendors are struggling to get bottles-so, hopefully- when things calm down, the suppliers of glass will catch up and you will find the size you need.

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,505
    edited September 2020
    TJohn said:
    McGyver said:
    Gordig said:

    Those Nigerian princes are really upping their game.

    Beloved

     

    Thanks for giving me a chance to share the word of God with you. I am very sure you can make a lot of difference by replying to my request, become good friends in our Lord Jehovah and see that with greater power comes greater responsibility . You can make a lot of changes in the life of others with this great offer from the Lord through me to you, most especially the Poor at heart, and the less privileged.

     

    Firstly, I think I would start all with a proper introduction of myself .I am Mrs Caroline Christie, a widow to the late John Christie and am 60 years old, suffering from long term cancer of the breast. From all indications, my condition is really deteriorating and is quite obvious that I may not live more than two months according to my doctor, because the stage at which my cancer is (Stage 4), it is so critical and also to a very severe stage.

     

    My personal physician told me that I may not live for more than 4 months and I am so scared about it. My late husband and I both grew up in a motherless home in Australia we got married and we travel to the United States for our wedding and we decided to stay back there simply because it is a lovely place to stay and we were given a permanent stay after so many years of stay and also we have no child of our own due to one problem and the other, since his death I decided not to re-marry or get a child outside my matrimonial home which the Bible is against even though I wish I had.

     

    It is late now you know, and age is no longer on my side but I still believe the Lord Jehovah will send me someone that will make me smile which is you because the bible says in the book of Psalms 119:116 Uphold me according unto thy word, that I may live, and let me not ashamed of my hope. Psalms 138: 7 Though I walk in the midst of trouble, thou will revive me...... Psalms 145:18 Psalms 57: 7 My heart is fixed. O God my heart is fixed, I will sing & give praise Psalms 51:17 The sacrifices of God are broken spirit, a broken & contrite heart, O God thou will not despise. Psalms 41:1 Blessed is he that considerate the poor, the Lord will deliver him in time of trouble. Two of my favorite verses: Philippians 2:27: For indeed he was sick nigh unto death, but God had mercy on him & that on him only, but on me also, lest I should have sorrow upon sorrow.( I always say this in my mind ).

     

    So, I now decide to give all of my wealth, by contributing to the development of the motherless baby homes, less privileged, needy, poor, charity homes, widows and CANCER patients too in your country and I just want you to forget about the distance between me and you. I am willing to donate the sum of $8.200,000.00, which is still the major inheritance I have left. I wish you could be someone who I could trust with all my heart, to make this wish of mine come true despite my prayers over you. I really need you to use the funds to help the poor which is very essential and also the widow and cancer patient as me. I know this is hard, but you should keep this saying in your heart , I am like Moses in the Bible .

     

    He came to the Red Sea and Pharaoh behind him and no way to turn but God delivered him all by a miraculous deliverance . It will be a miracle from God to be able to help all the dear people God has laid on our hearts, as you have been laid on my heart to do his will. This is why with Jehovah in my heart I contacted you and I want you to contact me so we can be in contact with all the poor souls out there. Give new lives , hopes and days. I have come to find out that wealth acquisition without Jehovah is vanity and I hope you will agree with this also. I will be praying hard that Satan will not stop this effort .

     

    Do contact me and I will tell you more of what you wish to know. Note that the Lord Jehovah has a great reason for contacting me and I will be very grateful if you will heed to the call of Jehovah.

     

    May God bless you

    Mrs. Caroline Christie

    Passable English, the sender name on the email actually matched the name used in the body text, a personalized introduction, they didn't jump straight into the scam...obviously I'm not falling for it, but it's nice to see that they're working a little harder.

    Hmmm.... "with greater power comes greater responsibility"... Sounds like uncle Ben and aunt May are running a scam... I wonder if Peter is in on it..?  
    Those spider-gizmos aren't cheap.

    One question about the sum... $8.200,000.00... isn't that $8.20?

    Thats not a huge inheritance.

    But...

    This gives me an idea...

    Dear stupid Anerica person,

    You have much money and I do not. Send me all your money.

    Goodbye.

    No, no, no.  Begs don't work.  However, faux offers of reward can be quite lucrative.  It plays on the human greediness gene.

    Whenever you're trying to figure out human behavior or thought processes, just watch a herd of monkeys.  Especially films of the street monkeys in some cities in India.

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  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,050
    edited September 2020

    Complaint: (one that is much in sympathy with KK's complaint)

    Disclaimer: Stop here unless you have absolutely nothing to do with your time and are utterly bored or perhaps trapped under a heavy bookcase with nothing else to do while awaiting rescue... this is a long boring rant about nothing important.

    I hate fluorescent tube lights... one main reason is no matter where they are, no matter how new, no matter the setting, light level, whatever, I can see them flicker and it annoys the piss out of me.

    I've learned to deal with it over time... one way was wherever they were in use, I'd use an incandescent light to closer to where I was working to create a sort of "White Noise" of lighting to minimize my perception of the flickering... 

    When I bought my house the basement and the garage had all fluorescent tube lights, (on a side note- double annoyance- every time I'm writing "tube light", predictive text keeps changing it to "tube lightsaber"... WTF?)... both of them were too annoying and expensive to replace with anything else and to be honest, as annoying as fluorescent light is, it's economical and useful.

    Recently a new alternative became available, which is replacement LED tubes for fluorescent fixtures. I bought a set about three years ago and tried them in the basement, they didn't work and when I went to return them the guy doing returns told me that not all LED tubes work in all fixtures, he said there was a decent cheap fixture he knew would work with LED tubes and gave me the product number... I decided to give it a try with one unit and if it didn't work, return the whole lot.

    It worked.

    So I replaced all the basement lights with fixtures running LED tubes... it was a pain but (yay!) it worked and if there is any flickering, it's on a wavelength I don't notice.

    I also bought a big huge box of LED tubes at a great price, so even if they don't live up to the super optimistic 10 year claim, I at least had plenty more at a really cheap price.

    I'm sure that if you are aware of these sorta things and are handy, you are saying "Hey Vic, ya moron, you know they make fully LED tube light style fixtures?"... And yeah, I do... they say they last for ages too... but once the LED array starts to die, you have to dispose of the entire fixture... which is unbelievably stupid, wasteful and expensive because none of the bulbs I've ever used live up to any of the manufacturers claims, because they are all based on the stupid expectation of 3-4 hours of use per day (mostly 3), and even if it's a low use bulb, the best I get is 2 years... I'd rather replace a bulb than a whole wired fixture... who the hell thought that was a good idea?  Oh yeah... marketing... !!!$$$$$ DISPOSABLE $$$$$$!!!

    Well fork them

    Well anyway, last week one of the old fluorescent fixtures in the shop started dying... its the ballast, it had a good run... a very good run, but I was fed up with that fixture anyway, as it was slowly falling apart... so I went to replace it with a new fluorescent fixture like I did with the basement.

    Apparently all you can buy now without a lot of effort is expensive disposable LED tube-like light fixtures or expensive industrial type actual fluorescent fixtures (the LED tube type replacement bulbs are more expensive too).

    I decided on the fluorescent fixtures and managed to find one that was an acceptable price... I took it home and wired it up and believe it or not it worked with the bulbs... why is that surprising? One- because nothing works right the first time, Two- because that was too simple, and Three- remember the part about not all bulbs work with all fixtures... the guy wasn't kidding, most bulb packages say on the box more or less the exact same thing... only they don't say why or what is compatible... if you know fluorescent lights, you know there are lots of different types of ballasts, starters and specs, none of which are usually presented on ordinary consumer packaging... if you buy from an industrial supplier you get piles of specs, but a consumer is lucky if there is a xeroxed instruction sheet inside (note: the new fixture I bought had zero instructions only a wiring diagram on the ballast label).

    So anyway, the fixture worked so I replaced all the lights... they all worked.

    That was four or five days ago and yesterday I discovered that if you have the new lights (the shop ones) on and shut them off and turn them back on, they turn on at like 40% output... WTF... if I leave them off for like a half hour and turn them on they work fine... sucks if I shut them off and realize I forgot something and have to go back inside...

    They are wired correctly, I've done this sort of thing a million times, that's not the issue, it's some incompatibility with the bulbs and ballast...

    Fork this shnizzit.

    To complicate this issue- neither the bulbs I bought three years ago or the fixtures I got are available anymore... nor is any information... they are totally vanished from the internet like it was all a fevered figment of my imagination... I can find crap I bought twenty even thirty years ago, but three years ago nada.

    So this morning I spent two hours trying to figure out a remedy... Consumer product manufacturers suck, suck, suck, suck, suck.... 

    I finally found a guide for what bulbs to use with what units, but none of the consumer products give any information as to these particular specifications... especially not the fixtures or bulbs I have or any in any stores online or in person that I can afford.

    Expensive industrial units do, but everything consumer oriented is halfassed "megh" maybe it'll work, maybe not.

    I'll figure this crap out, but this is the kinda internet thing that galls me to no end... progressively the internet is becoming more and more useless... instead of becoming more efficient, more usable it's getting more halfassed every day on a level that seems it'll soon match mid 90s usefulness.

     

     

     

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  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,505
    edited September 2020

    I repeat, the world is getting dumber.

    Which is now my mantra.  I've given up on "the sky is falling".

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  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,049

    I repeat, the world is getting dumber.

    Which is now my mantra.  I've given up on "the sky is falling".

    No, you're just getting older.

  • Gordig said:

    I repeat, the world is getting dumber.

    Which is now my mantra.  I've given up on "the sky is falling".

    No, you're just getting older.

    Meaning that I'm getting smarter by comparison?surprise  Flattering, but somewhat unsatisfactory.indecision

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,049
    edited September 2020
    Gordig said:

    I repeat, the world is getting dumber.

    Which is now my mantra.  I've given up on "the sky is falling".

    No, you're just getting older.

    Meaning that I'm getting smarter by comparison?surprise  Flattering, but somewhat unsatisfactory.indecision

    Nothing is happening to anybody's intelligence; you're just old, and falling prey to one of the oldest cognitive biases. 

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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,940

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    Gordig said:

    I repeat, the world is getting dumber.

    Which is now my mantra.  I've given up on "the sky is falling".

    No, you're just getting older.

    Meaning that I'm getting smarter by comparison?surprise  Flattering, but somewhat unsatisfactory.indecision

    Older and wiser.  Psycopaths can be highly intelligent, but wisdom (which includes the ability to use your intelligence wisely) isn't their strongest asset. 

  • carrie58carrie58 Posts: 3,982
    Gordig said:
    Gordig said:

    I repeat, the world is getting dumber.

    Which is now my mantra.  I've given up on "the sky is falling".

    No, you're just getting older.

    Meaning that I'm getting smarter by comparison?surprise  Flattering, but somewhat unsatisfactory.indecision

    Nothing is happening to anybody's intelligence; you're just old, and falling prey to one of the oldest cognitive biases. 

    I'm sorry but I have to agree with LG cause you can't tell me that a woman having a rant about how deer crossing should be moved so the deer won't cross on the highway isn't a sign of shrinking intelligence .....not getting older percption .......

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,049

    I can, and I will. It's not as if people didn't think stupid things when you or he were younger. Old people have believed that the younger generations were worse since the invention of writing (they presumably believed it before then, too, but we have no way to know for sure). They were wrong thousands of years ago, and you're wrong now.

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,168
    Gordig said:

    I can, and I will. It's not as if people didn't think stupid things when you or he were younger. Old people have believed that the younger generations were worse since the invention of writing (they presumably believed it before then, too, but we have no way to know for sure). They were wrong thousands of years ago, and you're wrong now.

    Every once in a while a remarkably clueless generation comes along.  When that happens, the older people are correct.  It isn't every generation, but it is some.

    Unfortunately, when the generation behind us is remarkably clueless, it is our own dang fault.  Who raised them?  Who mis-educated them?

     

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,049
    Diomede said:
    Gordig said:

    I can, and I will. It's not as if people didn't think stupid things when you or he were younger. Old people have believed that the younger generations were worse since the invention of writing (they presumably believed it before then, too, but we have no way to know for sure). They were wrong thousands of years ago, and you're wrong now.

    Every once in a while a remarkably clueless generation comes along.  When that happens, the older people are correct.  It isn't every generation, but it is some.

    And I'm going to guess that your own generation wasn't one of them.

     

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