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I really thought they would bring the A game as well and I'd be thinking seriously about getting the next season pass if they did. I figured the next five figures would be really outstanding, and to those asking "how do you please everybody?" I respond: it's not that this character is not stellar, but that this character is very underwhelming. If you have a female character in your librarary, and a decent morph pack, you've got this character already. I understand you can't please everybody but you can at least make a stab at creating a unique and interesting character that will appeal to a large portion of your customer base. If we took a pole of render artists, and asked how often people need middle age overweight characters for their current project, versus how many people need some heroic looking individual, I think the vast majority would say they need the heroic type for most of their renders. That's not always the case, and please, people, don't tongue lash me by pointing out the exceptions. I'm working on a piece where I needed an overweight female right now. What I'm saying is, its a very small percentage of my figure needs.
That and the skin is unacceptable. You're not just buying the character shape. You're buying the skin as well.
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I feel this.
Thanks for the laugh.
One could justifiably come to the conclusion that there isn't really an actual plan behind any of this, that it's just one after another ad hoc decisions about when-how-if to throw something against the wall, but---before anyone checks to see if something stuck---they've changed course again. We shall see, but this has been going on too long to be considered merely a trend.
I was thinking the same thing... a render for Brooke without the HD would be nice :) hint... hint... out there ;)
Changing rules when the game (contest) has already started is a very good way of loosing the last quantum remaining trust in Daz. But the whole thing with latest developments at Daz does not really make sense, at least to me. I do understand that a company needs to evaluate new ways of increasing sales and revenues, but before just taking a leap, do your damn homework.
The key thing in that homework would be a market analysis. What type of customer do I want? What does exactly that customer expect? How can Daz, as a company, serve the need of that customers better than the competition? What are my USP's? Obviously, no one has ansked these questions. Otherwise, NFT's never would have happened. And communication on the Season Pass would have been much better. Plus, I would have made sure that the first season pass is a blockbuster. Instead of people regretting to have taken that leap, it should be the other way. Anyone NOT having the season pass should be disappointed.
I have seen a couple of marketing related online training courses, e.g. on Edx, some of them even for free. I would highely recommend those courses to Daz marketing.
Btw: Just checking your OWN sales, and taking a wild guess on that, is not helpful. Things may change tomorrow, and your sales data is history. You could only make limited guess on that. What if you were selling sails like mad, and the steam ship is invented tomorrow? Will you STILL be keeping your sales? You have to move with the times, or the times will move you. And I think daz is moving in the wrong direction.
Ok that's more like it;)
I'm pretty sure they did not. Unless Tafi has both a Kristen Rosario and a Kristin Rosario sharing the same job.
+1 :) Thanks for posting her.
Two things I noticed that somewhat bother me.
Mondays freebie did not count as a purchase, so you had to buy 2 other asset if you wanted a free DAZ original.
And today, if you purchase the bundle, you also have to buy 2 Add-Ons to get the extra 50% off the Famous Highlights. One because the HD doesn't count and the second because the discount you get works against you. You need two to reach $50.
...exactly, starlets, super models and hunks are generally a turn off for me. I prefer characters like Floyd, Mabel, Bethany, George, and Molly who look like someone you'd see walking around town than on a fashion runway or television/cinema screen. Then again I also prefer more "everyday" styled clothing (whatever the time period) instead of skimpy/sexy stuff with stiletto heels as well.
This. So much this.
Anyway, on the phone so I'm just going to touch on stuff I read directly without quoting.
This is funny: "I don't like the character so it's impossible anyone does, whoever says they do it's just them trying to justify getting the pass". Nice one, deciding my likes and dislikes for me ;)
Could I morph a similar character? Probably. But the same applies to "heroic looking" characters. Heck... Even easier. But you know what's rare? HD details and maps for middle-aged overweight characters. Sure, I have SY's Big Girl morphs and shape shift, etc, but I've always found weird using those with maps from the much more common fit and young characters. And about the skin, I didn't have too much time to test it yesterday and since I already saw that a lot of people shared previews here by the time I downloaded it, I didn't bother to do more. But beyond finding it kind of darker than what I saw on some promos, I didn't see anything wrong with it. I just figured it was a lightning thing. Again, if you don't think it's good that's fine but don't assume no one will. So, really, it's not that is not a good, unique character, it's just one some didn't like. And hey, good for you if you didn't get the pass.
About the contest, not interested because I don't have the time but yes, now actually makes more sense. Sure, should have been like that from the start but to err is human, and it wasn't that big of a mistake. Yes, it might seem like Daz has to correct info too often... But imho... There is something new every. single. day. I'd say that's to be expected, it's not like they are as big as google or something.
Anyway, I'll probably take a second look at Brooke 8.1's skin later but yeah, for me, so far it's better than if it was a character like Cleopatra 8.1. It was not a bad looking character but extremely redundant, not because it was young and fit, but because we already got Tworset and Khemsit not too long ago.
This is exactly right. When I sent in my ticket yesterday, I said this is when you showcase your Zelarias, Mei Lins, another character that is eluding me right now, and absolutely Owen and Nix. I always see people asking for Gianni and Lillith upgrades, I've never seen someone say you know what, we need an update to Bethany. These are the characters that, even if people didn't buy the bundle, they would have gotten the character because they're just awesome not only for the morph itself but for the skin, and they have a broader appeal than a middle aged overweight woman. Which like someone else mentioned, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, there's times when you find you need a character like it and I know there's a few folks who are ecstatic to have something like this. But this is such a small fraction of what you see folks typically use in renders and when you're doing something like this at the price point it is, it's not the time for the niche audience. Personally, I know the next two years worth of animated films I'm doing right now and she will not fit anywhere in any role and I had figured at this price point, Daz would release five characters that fit somewhat similar to their regular release models that I could have plugged and chugged in various roles easily.
I’ve practically been LIVING in VR since December lol. I have two art galleries in AltspaceVR and have made amazing friends there.
I think they need a different season pass for those who like bundles but NOT the core characters. I like everything in the bundle EXCEPT Brooke.
Just to be clear, I wasn't saying that these weren't tenements, just that anything called a tenement didn't belong thematically with a character who was being sold as a famous news anchor (and don't let me even go into that, given how brutally appearance driven the TV news industry has become when it comes to female newscasters.) One look at the corroded and flaking metalwork on the firscapes and fencing, plus the random tiny window unit ACs and complete lack of any upgraded ACs or elevators on the roof makes it pretty clear that while these aren't the worst tenements, they're certainly not the recently restored trendy digs that no one who's living in wants to call a tenement. (for those who want more info, there's an old but still valid article NYTimes article on the recent history of tenement reclamation https://www.nytimes.com/1999/04/04/realestate/making-tenements-modern.html ) Nor was I knocking the original creator for naming the product that, as it's visually very accurate to the term and fairly well made... in fact, it's the only item in the entire Brooke promotion that I put in my cart as it discounts down to a reasonable 71% off (8.68) with my PC+ coupon. Rather, it my critique was that it really does look like someone at DAZ looked into a random stack of upcoming releases and said... oh, there's some kind of housing city housing! And look we have some news crew props and a very unflattering slip dress, so in we'll say she's a famous News Anchor and celebrity in New York.
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I can understand the "tenement" argument, but I'm happy to get a NEW item rather than sticking an old item I already own in a bundle.
I've seen manhole covers in side walks before but instead of being for sewers they were for underground electrical and phone junction boxes
And I have seen manhole covers for sewers on both, road and pavement. Turns out not having to block the road when needing to access the sewers is damn helpful to the traffic.
I guess I should thank DAZ for the mix-up/misleading contest description. I was on the fence over the Season Pass, but thought I might have a chance to place in the contest making it less expensive. However, since everyone could enter (even though only season pass holders got the big prizes) I figured that would dilute my chances a lot (too many great renders to look at, I'd get lost in the shuffle). So this, combined with the idea that at least one character would be male (I seldom use males) and one would be a niche character I might not ever use, I decided the funds would be better spent elsewhere. Brooke definitely is not my style, and I would probably never use her (definitely won't purchase her). The first freebie was an item I also might not ever use (nice, just not what I typically render). As a result, I'm quite happy DAZ changed the contest rules, thanks for the error making it easier to pass on the Season Pass.
I also hate to say it, and not trying to dis anyone who likes Brooke 8.1. But boy do some of the promos give me a serious uncanny valley creepy feeling!! Maybe that's a good thing? Some of the user renders look much less uncanny valley creepy though, so maybe it's just a render style thing.
can't see many Aussies getting into these season passes as once converted into our money it is pretty expensive but was thinking what they could've done was include some form of pc membership as a bonus even if it'sonly a 3 month and if they're already pc members add it to current membership extending it
I do, I can return anything bought with store credit and purchase something else; I can chose what to buy with store credit instead of having it chosen for me, without the ability to return for something else.
... It is vastly different to store credit.
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Both sides have said the same thing many times trying to prove their points to the side that isn't interested in listening to them.
I got the pass and was excited to have the forum flair.
Then Brooke made me embarassed for my purchase.