Oh, Misty, I forgot my Complaint Thread

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  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,206

    kyoto kid said:

    ...so checked the 48 Hours of Summer Savings sale page and under "legacy items", the first 40 pages of character based content is for G8  (some even G8.1).  Whne I hear the term, "legacy" it usuall means "old" and out of production, sort of like my computer which has an X58 motherboard, Westmere generation Intel CPU, DDR3 memory, and PCIe 2.0 slots, or relating to Daz content, Gen 3 & 4, G1 and maybe G2. 

    G8 is still sort of Daz's "state of the art" figure.and 8.1 sort of an expansion..

    Perhaps that is about to change.   sad  Can't keep up with this stuff!

    Dana 

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,206

    So sorry to hear about your loss, N-RArts!

    Dana

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,254

    Sorry about kitty loss.

     

     

    I just got out of the shower.  I had to cut it short because I was feeling vertigo.  I'm in my bed right now.  I hope I don't have to call 911.  I do have a doctor appointment on Thursday.

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 12,724

    @N-RArts I'm so sorry for your loss.

  • I am very sorry to hear about your cat, and the additional stress.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036

    DanaTA said:

    kyoto kid said:

    ...so checked the 48 Hours of Summer Savings sale page and under "legacy items", the first 40 pages of character based content is for G8  (some even G8.1).  Whne I hear the term, "legacy" it usuall means "old" and out of production, sort of like my computer which has an X58 motherboard, Westmere generation Intel CPU, DDR3 memory, and PCIe 2.0 slots, or relating to Daz content, Gen 3 & 4, G1 and maybe G2. 

    G8 is still sort of Daz's "state of the art" figure.and 8.1 sort of an expansion..

    Perhaps that is about to change.   sad  Can't keep up with this stuff!

    Dana 

    ...I don't think G9 will happen until Daz 5.x is released  

    Or maybe they'll be like Microsoft, skip 9 and go right to 10.

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    kyoto kid said:

    DanaTA said:

    kyoto kid said:

    ...so checked the 48 Hours of Summer Savings sale page and under "legacy items", the first 40 pages of character based content is for G8  (some even G8.1).  Whne I hear the term, "legacy" it usuall means "old" and out of production, sort of like my computer which has an X58 motherboard, Westmere generation Intel CPU, DDR3 memory, and PCIe 2.0 slots, or relating to Daz content, Gen 3 & 4, G1 and maybe G2. 

    G8 is still sort of Daz's "state of the art" figure.and 8.1 sort of an expansion..

    Perhaps that is about to change.   sad  Can't keep up with this stuff!

    Dana 

    ...I don't think G9 will happen until Daz 5.x is released  

    Or maybe they'll be like Microsoft, skip 9 and go right to 10.

    Oh no... Vicky X is supposed to be sentient... 

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,254

    PerttiA said:

    kyoto kid said:

    DanaTA said:

    kyoto kid said:

    ...so checked the 48 Hours of Summer Savings sale page and under "legacy items", the first 40 pages of character based content is for G8  (some even G8.1).  Whne I hear the term, "legacy" it usuall means "old" and out of production, sort of like my computer which has an X58 motherboard, Westmere generation Intel CPU, DDR3 memory, and PCIe 2.0 slots, or relating to Daz content, Gen 3 & 4, G1 and maybe G2. 

    G8 is still sort of Daz's "state of the art" figure.and 8.1 sort of an expansion..

    Perhaps that is about to change.   sad  Can't keep up with this stuff!

    Dana 

    ...I don't think G9 will happen until Daz 5.x is released  

    Or maybe they'll be like Microsoft, skip 9 and go right to 10.

    Oh no... Vicky X is supposed to be sentient... 

    Oh NO!  What will happen to the NVIATWAS? 

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,254

    How do I turn on 2 factor authenetication for Facebook?

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,050

    PerttiA said:

    Oh no... Vicky X is supposed to be sentient... 

     

     

    Full scale 3D printed cybernetic Silicon RealDolls with a quirky style and an attitude to match... naughty bits sold separately.

    Its all fun and games till they go sentient and you need a Blade Runner to clean up the mess and then you find out your Blade Runners are replicants too... 

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,050

    Hee-hee... one of my daughters applied for a job as a tour guide for the local historical society's tours at the local cemetery... her sister is freaking out... "Great she's gonna bring ghosts home!"... "What sense does that make, they don't even let you see the corpses, just the headstones!?"...

    Some pretty funny arguments coming out of this and she didn't even get the job yet...

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,254

    I feel like going to bed.  Good night!

  • N-RArtsN-RArts Posts: 1,496
    edited August 2022

    Thank you for the replies, everyone. It means a lot heart heart heart

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036

    Sfariah said:

    I feel like going to bed.  Good night!

    ...about to do the same myself .

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,254

    I was looking for a free grocery list maker to use on my computer.  I thought I found one but it was for Windows phones only.  I decided to use Microsoft To-Do to make the list.

  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393

    Feels like as of late, the things that used to bring me joy and comfort bring nothing but irritation and/or grief.  There's my complaint for the day I guess.

  • N-RArtsN-RArts Posts: 1,496
    edited August 2022

    Urgh! I feel like Donkey Kong has been using my head, instead of his bongo drums.

    Only I could phone a 24/7 helpline, only to have no one answer it... 

    I'm not looking forward to tonight. Hopefully it won't be as hard to deal with as last night. I've stopped looking out of the window, and going to the door, because he's not going to be there. 

    I wish some UK Etsy and eBay vendors (and site staff) would learn the difference between a reference number, and a tracking number. It's a difference of two digits. A reference number has eleven digits, and a tracking number has thirteen...  If anyone was wondering ;) .

    Rezca said:

    Feels like as of late, the things that used to bring me joy and comfort bring nothing but irritation and/or grief.  There's my complaint for the day I guess.

    I know what you mean. I guess everyone (if not, most people) goes through that at some point. I get it a lot with gaming.

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  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393
    edited August 2022

    N-RArts said:

    Urgh! I feel like Donkey Kong has been using my head, instead of his bongo drums.

    Only I could phone a 24/7 helpline, only to have no one answer it... 

    I'm not looking forward to tonight. Hopefully it won't be as hard to deal with as last night. I've stopped looking out of the window, and going to the door, because he's not going to be there. 

    I wish some UK Etsy and eBay vendors (and site staff) would learn the difference between a reference number, and a tracking number. It's a difference of two digits. A reference number has eleven digits, and a tracking number has thirteen...  If anyone was wondering ;) .

    Rezca said:

    Feels like as of late, the things that used to bring me joy and comfort bring nothing but irritation and/or grief.  There's my complaint for the day I guess.

    I know what you mean. I guess everyone (if not, most people) goes through that at some point. I get it a lot with gaming.

    Art for me right now,  specifically the 3D side.  There's questions I have, and most of the time - just shy of all the time - they go unanswered or perhaps just as bad, the answers I get are entirely unhelpful or aren't even related to what I asked.  There's times where I spend hours searching for an answer online and come back just as lost as before if not more so, and manuals, guides, videos, etc will talk about something like its the simplest thing in the world but its never the result I get when I use the programs and when I ask for help we cycle around to the start there.

     

    Latest examples,  one  is a rigging problem in Cinema 4D I had,  and while I got a nudge in a direction that provided some insights that have been very helpful and ones I never would have thought of  it stopped just short of the other half of the problem. That is,  "The Constrictor" here on DAZ has 180+ joints in it. That'd be exceedingly tedious to pose by hand let alone animate, and an added problem is how Cinema 4D's timeline window works (Keying the Jaw means needing to stretch the window to fullscreen just to see where it is even if its the only key present in the scene).  Spline-IK being the solution!  But how to move the head?  So I have a constraint for that and now I have two problems:  The last segment of the neck is stiff as a board and wont bend. The second is that the head doesn't follow the body when its posed.  I pop back into the forums and ask about that, nadda.

    Then there's trying to make heads or tails of UV Tiles,  mostly for painting custom textures for models that use them in Substance Painter.  Painter just isolates every material selection as an individual shader and won't allow painting across them, leading to needing to switch materials by hand every time I reach a seam.

    Anyway,  I go looking up information on this and I get guides and videos that talk about how OH SO EASY AND SIMPLE this whole process is and IT IS NOT WHAT I AM EXPERIENCING. So I ask around and I get silence,  but then one of my friends straight-up just says Substance can't read multiple textures while the manual, youtube tutorials, etc all say it does. So which is it then???? 

    The very idea of using more than one texture just confounds me as well,  I can't seem to really get it working and what's the point anyway if Substance Painter can't handle them anyway?  But then, the guides and lessons showing it doing just that... How do you get it into that state where it WILL work? 

     

    And that's just the recent, immediately on my mind topics.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036

    ...my artistic muse still hasn't recovered after the drive crash a couple years ago that took 6 years of work and character development with it. Having to start from scratch again was very deflating and discouraging.  Even though I'm  still using G3, trying to reproduce characters from .jpgs has often been an exercise in frustration and futility. Without the actual settings I used it's been like shooting arrows off at the sun. The move to G8/8.1 and dForce has only made things seem more discouraging given I am still working on decade old hardware while loathing the idea of moving to an OS I no longer am allowed to have control over as the developers insist on holding my hand every inch of the way and "spoon feeding" my system because they supposedly "know best".

    Because of my reluctance to give in, I know I am fast approaching a "digital ceiling" (and in some cases already bumping my head on it).  I like things simple and elegant rather than bloated and cumbersome but apparently the tech world today deems otherwise (I again have been toying around with my old upgrade Idea that uses server/workstation components particularly as prices for them have come down to more reasonable levels).

     

     

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,047

    kyoto kid said:

    ...my artistic muse still hasn't recovered after the drive crash a couple years ago that took 6 years of work and character development with it.

    Funny enough, that's how I got into Daz in the first place. I was a musician before that, but my motivation had been somewhat flagging, and then I took a hard drive crash a little more personally than I probably should have. Even though no data was actually lost, it was a major blow to my motivation, and Daz provided a different outlet. I still dabble in music occasionally, but it's no longer my primary thing.

  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393

    kyoto kid said:

    ...my artistic muse still hasn't recovered after the drive crash a couple years ago that took 6 years of work and character development with it. Having to start from scratch again was very deflating and discouraging.  Even though I'm  still using G3, trying to reproduce characters from .jpgs has often been an exercise in frustration and futility. Without the actual settings I used it's been like shooting arrows off at the sun. The move to G8/8.1 and dForce has only made things seem more discouraging given I am still working on decade old hardware while loathing the idea of moving to an OS I no longer am allowed to have control over as the developers insist on holding my hand every inch of the way and "spoon feeding" my system because they supposedly "know best".

    Because of my reluctance to give in, I know I am fast approaching a "digital ceiling" (and in some cases already bumping my head on it).  I like things simple and elegant rather than bloated and cumbersome but apparently the tech world today deems otherwise (I again have been toying around with my old upgrade Idea that uses server/workstation components particularly as prices for them have come down to more reasonable levels).

    I hated the idea of a "smartphone" since I just used my old simple thing only to make and receive calls.  I often did have an aversion or fear to change and sometines towards new things in general, like looking at the Gameboy Color in disgust and wanting to keep my monotone greyscale one instead...   xD

    I have a somewhat different experience with OS'es though,  I know I could have a lot more control if I moved to some form of Linux  but not needing that sort of control I've stuck with what I've used since I first played Command & Conquer and Daggerfall so many years back. The one I use right now gives me enough of what I need and in the exceedingly rare case I need more usually it still does with just a bit of working around  -  but it's also a mix of stubbornly not wanting to use or learn something else,  which is probably a part of why I'm still paying for Cinema 4D instead of moving to Blender-For-Free like everyone else. Would rather keep paying for a software I'm comfortable and happy with that I've used for going on ten years now, than change to one that to me is still baffling and alien even after the many  QoL changes they've made. 

    ...Which in turn, is why I'm still on R23 instead of S26, even if I do have it downloaded. All the interface changes they've made aaahah - there's some cool new features and some stuff has been improved, but I still just sit on the version I've spent the most time on

     

    Gordig said:

    kyoto kid said:

    ...my artistic muse still hasn't recovered after the drive crash a couple years ago that took 6 years of work and character development with it.

    Funny enough, that's how I got into Daz in the first place. I was a musician before that, but my motivation had been somewhat flagging, and then I took a hard drive crash a little more personally than I probably should have. Even though no data was actually lost, it was a major blow to my motivation, and Daz provided a different outlet. I still dabble in music occasionally, but it's no longer my primary thing.

     "It'll help with drawing!"  was mine,  though it quickly branched out into being an interest of its own in time.

     

    Oh,  I was just looking at some videos of INSIDYIUM's  Taio plant maker when I saw that they're offering perpetual licenses of X-Particles/Fused again.  I swear I remember it being sub-only a while back.  Something to save up for maybe?  It's not like I have anything better to save for like a second GPU or a better one P:

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036

    ...I took to going even more into becoming a "concerned citizen" (probably the safest way to describe it here) which now takes up my mornings into early, sometimes mid afternoon.  Probably just as well given what's going to happen in about 75 days here in the States. . It's a real challenge and sometimes by dinnertime, I'm totally exhausted mentally and sometimes emotionally worn out and then the brain is to tired to do much 3D work.

    I also feel most of my best work was done in 3DL instead of Iray (the only Iray scene I thought was any good was the British Train Station scene I did, which was still something of a "WIP" before the crash)  Going back to 3DL however is not a simple as it sounds as everything in the store today pretty much has Iray materials for which 3DL RSL doesn't have equivalent properties (therefore a few 3DL sliders for them don't appear after using one of the conversion scripts).  The other option is to manually substitute 3DL or AweShader materials for the Iray ones, one surface (sometimes material zone) at a time which is extremely tedious (it took me two evenings just to set up Protozoon's Grand Piano for 3DL, would hate to have to deal with a far more complex item like an environmental set).  Having to deal with a tedious process on a regular basis also tends to diminish the enthusiasm.

    I think about scene ideas all the time, but like Rezca, I sit down and open Daz up, then just sort of look at the screen for a little while and shut it down. I remember a decade ago I couldn't wait to get home from work, fire up the computer, and dive into a new project. I so looked foreyard to retirement and having all the time to really dive further into this. Funny how small things can tarnish one's enthusiasm.

    Unlike others here, I don't have many other creative pursuits to fall back on like music, drawing, painting or even building/painting scale models thanks to crippling arthritis. 

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,047

    Rezca said:

    Oh,  I was just looking at some videos of INSIDYIUM's  Taio plant maker when I saw that they're offering perpetual licenses of X-Particles/Fused again.  I swear I remember it being sub-only a while back.  Something to save up for maybe?  It's not like I have anything better to save for like a second GPU or a better one P:

    As far as I can tell, Fused is still subscription only, but it includes a perpetual license for X-Particles. I'm a little salty that when Cycles 4D was folded into Fused, my perpetual Cycles 4D license became meaningless, but given that I can't reliably use Cycles anyway for mysterious reasons, it's less bothersome at the moment.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036

    ....complaint.  Low on washing powder.  and need ot get more.  I need the kind that is made for sensitive skin without purfumes dyes or other harsh ingredients.  Trouble i powder detergent is becoming a thing of the past here in the States as everyone, including old trustworthy Arm & Hammer has gone to liquid or those newfangled pods.

    I've had much better results with powder instead of liquids and those pod thingies are the most expensive as well as least "eco conscious" (yeah I'm one of those "hug the whales save a tree" types).  They also don't work in machines that do a pre-wash. like the ones in my apartment building. The few powdered ones  I can find are rather expensive, like 20$, 30$ and more expensive. and even fewer are made for sensitive skins without all the chemical dyes, scents, & such.

    Powders are also more convenient as i can simply fill a small container with what I need rather than having to lug and entire bottle down and up each time.

    Apparently in other parts of the world powdered laundry soap is much more prevalent but, sadly, even a stateside outlet has to ship it from overseas so the shipping charges are ridiculous.  

    Will likely have to shell out more for a "natural" brand at Amazon or "Whole Paycheque".

  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393

    Gordig said:

    Rezca said:

    Oh,  I was just looking at some videos of INSIDYIUM's  Taio plant maker when I saw that they're offering perpetual licenses of X-Particles/Fused again.  I swear I remember it being sub-only a while back.  Something to save up for maybe?  It's not like I have anything better to save for like a second GPU or a better one P:

    As far as I can tell, Fused is still subscription only, but it includes a perpetual license for X-Particles. I'm a little salty that when Cycles 4D was folded into Fused, my perpetual Cycles 4D license became meaningless, but given that I can't reliably use Cycles anyway for mysterious reasons, it's less bothersome at the moment.

    Took a look, and yeah its kinda-sorta.  Cycles 4D can't be purchased separately but is included in the 'Maintenence' package.  X-Particles itself though is perpetual, the rest is just there for a year.

    I've mostly moved to Octane myself,  even if it's pretty crash-heavy. I dread to think what it must have been like when it was at its worst xD   Been half-thinking about moving to Arnold for a while to see what its like, get an Annual then use it for a time... Unsure about returning to Vray though;   Annual seems to be the only way to go about it since the monthly option is pretty crazy.

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,047

    I'm using Arnold now, and I like it quite a lot. Don't know when I'll be able to get a license, so all my renders are watermarked all to hell. Did you see my comparison post?

  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393
    edited August 2022

    Gordig said:

    I'm using Arnold now, and I like it quite a lot. Don't know when I'll be able to get a license, so all my renders are watermarked all to hell. Did you see my comparison post?

    Aah no I didn't.   Forgot that detail about texture linking too since its been some time since I used the Trial, feels like that'd be a massive pain.  

    Funny thing about watermarks though,  in Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep,  during the opening there's a single frame where the license server failed or something during the network rendering and as such it put the Arnold watermark on that frame. xD

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  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,254

    I want a meow meow of my own.  One to pet and feed.  Guess if I feed the meow meow, there'll be a box to clean.  However, an empty cardboard box becomes great place for napping for meow meows,

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,050
    edited August 2022

    kyoto kid said:

    ....complaint.  Low on washing powder.  and need ot get more.  I need the kind that is made for sensitive skin without purfumes dyes or other harsh ingredients.  Trouble i powder detergent is becoming a thing of the past here in the States as everyone, including old trustworthy Arm & Hammer has gone to liquid or those newfangled pods.

    I've had much better results with powder instead of liquids and those pod thingies are the most expensive as well as least "eco conscious" (yeah I'm one of those "hug the whales save a tree" types).  They also don't work in machines that do a pre-wash. like the ones in my apartment building. The few powdered ones  I can find are rather expensive, like 20$, 30$ and more expensive. and even fewer are made for sensitive skins without all the chemical dyes, scents, & such.

    Powders are also more convenient as i can simply fill a small container with what I need rather than having to lug and entire bottle down and up each time.

    Apparently in other parts of the world powdered laundry soap is much more prevalent but, sadly, even a stateside outlet has to ship it from overseas so the shipping charges are ridiculous.  

    Will likely have to shell out more for a "natural" brand at Amazon or "Whole Paycheque".

    The detergent companies keep downsizing the liquid deterrents too... you know to save us money and make the tree whales more huggable... well, according to them... "By charging you 13% more for this jug that's 20% smaller we were able to save 1% of new plastic by using recycled plastic we recovered from the guts of dead sea animals!"... At some point they are going to phase out powdered detergent so they can reinvent it as something else that's more money... "Pulverized Detergent" or "Granulated Wash Particles" or some other dumbass marketing jargon for "y'all so gullible you'll believe anything" which they'll put in new environmentally friendly "eco-fiberboard" "rectangular storage bins", a new futuristic material "made from the the pulped  remains of trees that died naturally from global warming and were turned into a miraculous Stupid-Age* material that can be formed into sheets and folded into any shape, but mostly rectangles which can make decorative shipping and storage containers called "boxes""... 
    A material so environmentally friendly it was actually discovered by the ancient Egyptians over thousands of years ago, and despite being so environmentally friendly it'll only cost 62% more than plastic jugs... additionally, by adding more air and less product into each eco-fiberboard storage bin, this process will reduce shipping weight and save you money by increasing the price a mere 29%, making you wealthier by raising the median income of our CEO and shareholders, which will eventually "trickle down" to you in the form of luxury outdoor bio-fiberboard housing for everyone... you'll help save the environment by living outside in it!

    Eventually they'll probably offer "powder pouches", little rice paper pouches filled with "concentrated" powder to reimagine detergent "pods".

    The best part is 5% of people will see through all that, while 80% will be split between defending the convoluted logic of how that's somehow good for the earth while the other half will be defending the convoluteder logic of how money trickles down from billionaires into the recycled coffee cans of those now living in luxury outdoor bio-fiberboard housing, with the remaining 15% of the population staring blankly into space.

    Its like the old saying "Everything new is dumb again"... or something like that... Either way, since you mentioned it, I was thinking of making my own super environmentally friendly paleo-laundry chain that rejects traditional corporate chains in favor of a humanized concept where the individual "Paleolaundromats" are fully owned and managed by an enlightened parent corporation which humanely guides theses establishments ruthlessly towards profits on behalf of benevolent sociopathic shareholders... a concept that is worded totally differently than other corporate missions that have gone before, not just because of poor grammar and bad spelling, but because that exact sequence of words has never been presented in that order in regards to my company or the concept of "Paleo" and "Laundromat" in the same sentence, therefore making it not only pure genius, but a bold entrepreneurial event unprecedented in the history of laundromats, sociopathy and, or the monetization of concepts vaguely based on the habits of cavemen who clearly knew more than anyone today who ascribes to the frivolities of modern science and logic.

    But if you are one of that 5% that has to question words that people speak, you are probably still wondering what this unprecedented event in the history of laundry entails...

    Well, first the name... "Laundry Sqaured", which isn't actually ever written anywhere which will allow for broad intellectual property interpretation rights...

    It's actually a symbol of a hand in a bucket next to a small two, allowing LS to claim IP rights over anyone using hands, buckets, water or the number 2 in their logos, additionally the interpretation of "Laundry Squared" allows us to sue anyone who uses "Square" or "Laundry" in their company name, thus allowing us to rake in billions in frivolous lawsuits and IP infringement claims before we even have an actual product.

    Whats that product you ask?

    Does it really matter?

    Well, if it ever comes to that, it'd be a open concept location which shuns traditional architecture like walls and roofs and instead harkens back to more enlightened times when these things didn't hinder mankind's spirit... the space would contain a flowing body of water, rocks placed randomly, if not haphazardly along the border of the water, beating sticks and piles of a proprietary animal fat mix** and wood ash... (for an additional fee, premixed lumps would be available)...

    Patrons would pay to rent a space at a rock, purchase beating sticks and small globs of "Sapo" (derived from the name of the ancient Roman site for ritual animal sacrifices where the Romans would collect goat tallow and mix it with urine to produce a product to clean laundry). 
    Customers would then smear sapo on their laundry and rub their clothes on the rocks occasionally beating them with the sticks for some reason until the laundry is either clean or they get tired.

    This time honored method is not only good for the environment, healthy because it is a good workout, it's also community building*** and will make me and my shareholders flush with cash, which we all know creates a trickle down effect economically.

    The stores or "Sites™" **** as I call them can be located along existing bodies of water like streams or drainage ditches or in urban environments, next to open fire hydrants or "subterranean water reclamation ducts"*****... my premier showcase store will open up in Times Square where the whole experience will be simulated virtually alongside an indoor water feature where customers can "wash" the outfits of their Metaverse avatars and other NFT based simulations and experience the gratification that our enlightened ancestors knew so well.

    Honestly, if the launch in Time Square goes well, I might not even bother with physical "Sites™", I might just stick to virtual paleolaundromats.

    So yeah... that's it... I think everyone should get in on this great investment opportunity before I run off with the money the earlier idiots give me first... granted I'll keep that investment window open long enough that the pyramid grows big enough that I can cash out and sell it to some mega EvilCorp Silicon Valley firm before it crashes down like a stack of porcelain origami in an earthquake, so you'll have plenty of time to cash out as well, if you are lucky, and maybe after all that, I'll claim that the company that bought my "vision" ruined the idea and I'll "resurrect it from the ashes of their greed" and make actual physical "Sites™" and start the process over...

    Brillant no?

    But anyway, yeah... that sucks about powdered laundry detergent.

     

     

     

     

    * If the 50s-60s was the "Space Age", we are living in the "Stupid Age" and I don't think I have to explain why.

    ** Animal fat and horse pee.

    *** The rocks are very close together.

    **** References archeological "sites" for a deeper paleo experience.

    ***** Sewers

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  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,254

    Somebody wants to log into my facebook account so they can pay me some funds.  I don't get it.

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