The I Miss the Old Days Complaint Thread

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  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 6,872

    kyoto kid said:

    ...well the "big freeze here in Portland is finally over as it got up to nearly 50° (F) today after being in the mid to high 30s with lows in the low 20s that last couple days. 

    The apartment has one of those "in the wall" heater units which are usually found in cheap motels and in the south  (yay, government subsidised housing) that are barely sufficient to warm up main area when it's in the 40s even on the high setting.. Usually I put an extra layer on but it was so cold these last few days my hands were freezing and once that happens I feel cold all over (difficult to type or work on scenes in Daz while wearing gloves). so I had to leave it run for hours to get any semblance of heat by my desks.  Why they never designed the building with a central boiler and steam heat, particularly in a building that is home to a fair number of seniors (who not just are more susceptible to temperature extremes, but also usually on a very tight fixed income) makes no sense as electric heating is probably the most cost inefficient way to heat the volume air in a room.  This of course translates to ridiculously high power bills in winter

    Baseboard heating is bad enough (and you can't have anything blocking the units ao so arranging furniture is an interesting challenge), but those in the wall ones like we have here are definitely not up to the task.   On top of that even though this is a fairly new building I question just how good the insulation as it gets really cold inside this time of year (and conversely., very hot in mid summer).. 

    Fortunately it's going stay more seasonable in the low to mid 50s this weekend through next week.

    Have you tried a portable desk heater? My apartment came with no heater whatsoever and I find the little portable heater is all I need, if that.  But my apartment must be very well insulated because even when it's like 40 degrees out, it's not really cold in the apartment. I just wear leggings, socks, a T-shirt and hoodie and it's totally comfortable. 

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 6,872

    My complaint: my computer just shut down yesterday. The lights went off inside it, it shut down and it won't go back on. It seems to be some sort of electrical issue and I'm freaked out about how much it could cost to fix and which male friend I can convince to help me bring the huge heavy thing to a repair shop. For them to go to your house, it's $150 just for that. 

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    Kyoto Kid, You should get electric mattress, blanket and pillow, I got those for my 80-year old mom that feels 'draft' everywhere and all the time. She's been happy.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036

    Wonderland said:

    kyoto kid said:

    ...well the "big freeze here in Portland is finally over as it got up to nearly 50° (F) today after being in the mid to high 30s with lows in the low 20s that last couple days. 

    The apartment has one of those "in the wall" heater units which are usually found in cheap motels and in the south  (yay, government subsidised housing) that are barely sufficient to warm up main area when it's in the 40s even on the high setting.. Usually I put an extra layer on but it was so cold these last few days my hands were freezing and once that happens I feel cold all over (difficult to type or work on scenes in Daz while wearing gloves). so I had to leave it run for hours to get any semblance of heat by my desks.  Why they never designed the building with a central boiler and steam heat, particularly in a building that is home to a fair number of seniors (who not just are more susceptible to temperature extremes, but also usually on a very tight fixed income) makes no sense as electric heating is probably the most cost inefficient way to heat the volume air in a room.  This of course translates to ridiculously high power bills in winter

    Baseboard heating is bad enough (and you can't have anything blocking the units ao so arranging furniture is an interesting challenge), but those in the wall ones like we have here are definitely not up to the task.   On top of that even though this is a fairly new building I question just how good the insulation as it gets really cold inside this time of year (and conversely., very hot in mid summer).. 

    Fortunately it's going stay more seasonable in the low to mid 50s this weekend through next week.

    Have you tried a portable desk heater? My apartment came with no heater whatsoever and I find the little portable heater is all I need, if that.  But my apartment must be very well insulated because even when it's like 40 degrees out, it's not really cold in the apartment. I just wear leggings, socks, a T-shirt and hoodie and it's totally comfortable. 

    ...unfortunately it would only dd to my already high winter power bills. 

    I grew up in Wisconsin with a gas furnace, stove, and water heater.  So much more efficient for heating the volume of air (better for baking things in the oven as well) and our bills were not as high as homes in the area that had electric heat and the house was over a halfcentury old (nobiody bothered about "R-Factor" back then).  The first apartment  I had here in Portland (a large 1 BR) had a gas heater (one of the large wall mounted forced air ones) and stove.  That heater kept the entire apartment nice and warm all winter.  My gas bill in winter never exceeded 16$ a month. 

    Steam heat is the best though  WHne I was in college in North Central Wisconin in the 70s, I shared a 3 BR apartment in an old mansion with a couple freinds that was dived up into a cpiple apartments and several single rooms. . The building had a central boiler in the cellar and the apartments as wel as single rooms all had those old fashioned iron radiators.  Even on -15° to -20² (F) nights the apartments and single rooms was toasty warm. Some nights I even had to turn the radiator in my bedroom down a bit.  

    For a while in the 80s I lived in one of those cheaply built  "cookie cutter" wood framed apartment buildings built (I should say "slapped together") in the 70s which had electric baseboard heating that you couldn't put anything in front of (made for some creative furniture arranging).  One of the things I always wondered about those places is why the heating units were always placed right under the largest window in each room rather than on an interior wall. I always felt the contractor must have invested in the local power utility as the windows in those places were all single pane glass which offered zero insulation and made a perfect "heat leak". 

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036

    PerttiA said:

    Kyoto Kid, You should get electric mattress, blanket and pillow, I got those for my 80-year old mom that feels 'draft' everywhere and all the time. She's been happy.

    ...I'm fine when I'm in bed as I have a nice thick quilt and several blankets put on the bed during winter. I also have set of fleece clothing which I use for sleeping.   It's when I'm awake and working at my desk or around the apartment that the lack of adequate heating is an issue in winter. 

    It's also more damp here in the northwest so I tend to feel the cold even more. 

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,503
    edited February 2023

    Wear an electric blanket or wrap while up and about.enlightened  I've been considering it.  My fingers toes and legs get cold below 68F(20C).  I mean I shiver at 67F but not at 68F.  There is only one thermostat in this house and it's in the neighbor's half of the house.  In winter I wear heavy pants, thermal underwear, flannel shirt, high fleece boot/slippers, and  I even went so far as to buy an indoor/outdoor thermometer with a wireless transmitter that I keep in my living room/office, and the wireless receiver is in their house so that they can tell how cold it is in here.  I've reminded them about it several times.  They let the house cool down to about 59F at night and it doesn't get warm again (68) until about 8:00 at night when they turn it down it again.  Grrr...  I've sometimes taken to wearing gloves and a hoodie while watching TV,frown but mostly I just wrap myself up in my "granny blanket", an afghan that mom knitted for me 50 years ago.smiley  The landlord keeps complaining about fuel costs, and I don't have a lease here, so I don't rock the boat too much, but it forces me to use portable electric space heaters or turn on the gas oven to warm things up a degree or two a few hours a day.  That can't help the fuel costs.indecision

     

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  • A quick internet search on radiator placement offers two possible reasons (which suggests that no one really knows) - that that space was most likely not to be used by anything else, and that it was the coldest spot and so gained most from the heat. I find the first most plausible.

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,254

    Raleigh's weather is cold But still warmer than Green Bay.

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  • hacsarthacsart Posts: 2,025

    kyoto kid said:

    . Why they never designed the building with a central boiler and steam heat, particularly in a building that is home to a fair number of seniors (who not just are more susceptible to temperature extremes, but also usually on a very tight fixed income) makes no sense as electric heating is probably the most cost inefficient way to heat the volume air in a room.  This of course translates to ridiculously high power bills in winter

    Our 21 stroy building has hydronic (hot water) heat with a boiler room on the roof,  4 boilers for building heat and domestc hot water with just about 12 million BTU available. Automation controls the boiler set points so that they get higher as the outside temo gets colder. We also have it set so that starting at -10C outside,  once an hour the system opens all the suite zone valves for a minute or to to help reduce the riks of heating pipe freeze. We had a ruin of -28C temps a few weeks back, and were able to keep the suite to about 75F.. 

     

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,050

    Something is weird again... okay the forum is weird... okay weirder than normal.

    The other day when I posted there were a lot of posts missing that apparently showed up later (now)... I definitely didn't see Dana's or TJohn's and I'm pretty sure Wendy's with the garden implement wasn't there either... in fact I'm positive it wasn't there.

    I'm wondering if it's an iOS thing...

    How I even noticed was when I turned on my iPad and went to the forum, the window was open to my last post so I refreshed and suddenly the screen loaded and then auto-scrolled up to Dana and TJohn's posts from two days ago... that's usually what happens when you refresh... it scrolls up to where you last read... well, within a post or so of the last post...

    But I posted at least twice since then... 

    Is that necrorefreshing?

    Weird.

    The other possibility is parallel worlds overlapping again... but I have a quality quantum ekdilosic-decomangulator running all the time that is guaranteed to prevent parallel universe overlap.

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    Richard Haseltine said:

    A quick internet search on radiator placement offers two possible reasons (which suggests that no one really knows) - that that space was most likely not to be used by anything else, and that it was the coldest spot and so gained most from the heat. I find the first most plausible.

    I remember someone saying that it's to prevent or minimize the 'draft' when the glass radiates cold. The need of course depends on what type of windows one has, with triple glazing there is very little if any 'draft'.

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,206

    kyoto kid said:

    ...well the "big freeze here in Portland is finally over as it got up to nearly 50° (F) today after being in the mid to high 30s with lows in the low 20s that last couple days. 

    The apartment has one of those "in the wall" heater units which are usually found in cheap motels and in the south  (yay, government subsidised housing) that are barely sufficient to warm up main area when it's in the 40s even on the high setting.. Usually I put an extra layer on but it was so cold these last few days my hands were freezing and once that happens I feel cold all over (difficult to type or work on scenes in Daz while wearing gloves). so I had to leave it run for hours to get any semblance of heat by my desks.  Why they never designed the building with a central boiler and steam heat, particularly in a building that is home to a fair number of seniors (who not just are more susceptible to temperature extremes, but also usually on a very tight fixed income) makes no sense as electric heating is probably the most cost inefficient way to heat the volume air in a room.  This of course translates to ridiculously high power bills in winter

    Baseboard heating is bad enough (and you can't have anything blocking the units ao so arranging furniture is an interesting challenge), but those in the wall ones like we have here are definitely not up to the task.   On top of that even though this is a fairly new building I question just how good the insulation as it gets really cold inside this time of year (and conversely., very hot in mid summer).. 

    Fortunately it's going stay more seasonable in the low to mid 50s this weekend through next week.

    You wouldn't do well here this weekend!  Saturday morning, around dawn, it will be about -4F.  Wind chill will be in the negative 20s!  The high for Saturday is expected to be about 14F.  Diane asked about grocery shopping on Saturday, but I told her that I'm not going out, not even across the street to get our mail!  On Sunday, back into the mid 40s for a high.

    Dana

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,206

    Wonderland said:

    My complaint: my computer just shut down yesterday. The lights went off inside it, it shut down and it won't go back on. It seems to be some sort of electrical issue and I'm freaked out about how much it could cost to fix and which male friend I can convince to help me bring the huge heavy thing to a repair shop. For them to go to your house, it's $150 just for that. 

    Sounds like maybe the power supply let go.

    Dana 

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,206

    kyoto kid said:

    Wonderland said:

    kyoto kid said:

    ...well the "big freeze here in Portland is finally over as it got up to nearly 50° (F) today after being in the mid to high 30s with lows in the low 20s that last couple days. 

    The apartment has one of those "in the wall" heater units which are usually found in cheap motels and in the south  (yay, government subsidised housing) that are barely sufficient to warm up main area when it's in the 40s even on the high setting.. Usually I put an extra layer on but it was so cold these last few days my hands were freezing and once that happens I feel cold all over (difficult to type or work on scenes in Daz while wearing gloves). so I had to leave it run for hours to get any semblance of heat by my desks.  Why they never designed the building with a central boiler and steam heat, particularly in a building that is home to a fair number of seniors (who not just are more susceptible to temperature extremes, but also usually on a very tight fixed income) makes no sense as electric heating is probably the most cost inefficient way to heat the volume air in a room.  This of course translates to ridiculously high power bills in winter

    Baseboard heating is bad enough (and you can't have anything blocking the units ao so arranging furniture is an interesting challenge), but those in the wall ones like we have here are definitely not up to the task.   On top of that even though this is a fairly new building I question just how good the insulation as it gets really cold inside this time of year (and conversely., very hot in mid summer).. 

    Fortunately it's going stay more seasonable in the low to mid 50s this weekend through next week.

    Have you tried a portable desk heater? My apartment came with no heater whatsoever and I find the little portable heater is all I need, if that.  But my apartment must be very well insulated because even when it's like 40 degrees out, it's not really cold in the apartment. I just wear leggings, socks, a T-shirt and hoodie and it's totally comfortable. 

    ...unfortunately it would only dd to my already high winter power bills. 

    I grew up in Wisconsin with a gas furnace, stove, and water heater.  So much more efficient for heating the volume of air (better for baking things in the oven as well) and our bills were not as high as homes in the area that had electric heat and the house was over a halfcentury old (nobiody bothered about "R-Factor" back then).  The first apartment  I had here in Portland (a large 1 BR) had a gas heater (one of the large wall mounted forced air ones) and stove.  That heater kept the entire apartment nice and warm all winter.  My gas bill in winter never exceeded 16$ a month. 

    Steam heat is the best though  WHne I was in college in North Central Wisconin in the 70s, I shared a 3 BR apartment in an old mansion with a couple freinds that was dived up into a cpiple apartments and several single rooms. . The building had a central boiler in the cellar and the apartments as wel as single rooms all had those old fashioned iron radiators.  Even on -15° to -20² (F) nights the apartments and single rooms was toasty warm. Some nights I even had to turn the radiator in my bedroom down a bit.  

    For a while in the 80s I lived in one of those cheaply built  "cookie cutter" wood framed apartment buildings built (I should say "slapped together") in the 70s which had electric baseboard heating that you couldn't put anything in front of (made for some creative furniture arranging).  One of the things I always wondered about those places is why the heating units were always placed right under the largest window in each room rather than on an interior wall. I always felt the contractor must have invested in the local power utility as the windows in those places were all single pane glass which offered zero insulation and made a perfect "heat leak". 

    That's exactly why they place them under windows.  Heats the air before the draft can go far into the room.  Single pane?  Yikes!

    Dana 

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,254

    I think there is a Philadelpia in Pennsylvania.

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,206

    PerttiA said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    A quick internet search on radiator placement offers two possible reasons (which suggests that no one really knows) - that that space was most likely not to be used by anything else, and that it was the coldest spot and so gained most from the heat. I find the first most plausible.

    I remember someone saying that it's to prevent or minimize the 'draft' when the glass radiates cold. The need of course depends on what type of windows one has, with triple glazing there is very little if any 'draft'.

    The draft usually comes from around the window fittings and frame, not the panes.  Unless the panes are not well mounted, of course. 

    Dana

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    DanaTA said:

    PerttiA said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    A quick internet search on radiator placement offers two possible reasons (which suggests that no one really knows) - that that space was most likely not to be used by anything else, and that it was the coldest spot and so gained most from the heat. I find the first most plausible.

    I remember someone saying that it's to prevent or minimize the 'draft' when the glass radiates cold. The need of course depends on what type of windows one has, with triple glazing there is very little if any 'draft'.

    The draft usually comes from around the window fittings and frame, not the panes.  Unless the panes are not well mounted, of course. 

    It's not real draft but a feeling of draft as the panes are so much colder than the air in the room, and when one goes near the window, one feels like there is a draft

  • PerttiA said:

    DanaTA said:

    PerttiA said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    A quick internet search on radiator placement offers two possible reasons (which suggests that no one really knows) - that that space was most likely not to be used by anything else, and that it was the coldest spot and so gained most from the heat. I find the first most plausible.

    I remember someone saying that it's to prevent or minimize the 'draft' when the glass radiates cold. The need of course depends on what type of windows one has, with triple glazing there is very little if any 'draft'.

    The draft usually comes from around the window fittings and frame, not the panes.  Unless the panes are not well mounted, of course. 

    It's not real draft but a feeling of draft as the panes are so much colder than the air in the room, and when one goes near the window, one feels like there is a draft

    Also remember that the cold air against the window pane falls to the floor and spreads out from there onto cold toesies. 

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,503
    edited February 2023

    Sfariah said:

    I think there is a Philadelpia in Pennsylvania.

    Nope, I checked.  Not enough letters.  No "d", not enough "p"s, and what do I do with the "s" & "y"?indecision

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,254

    I forgot tell the staff to turn on the dryer.  Not sure why but we are supposed to ask the staff to turn on washer and dryer.  I only remembered that I forgot as the dryer just turned on.  Today is my laundry day,

  • starionwolfstarionwolf Posts: 3,670

    i'm waiting for the arctic air to arrive.

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,254

    Does anyone know anything about heroine?

  • Sfariah said:

    Does anyone know anything about heroine?

    Which heroine ? 

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036
    edited February 2023

    DanaTA said:

    kyoto kid said:

    For a while in the 80s I lived in one of those cheaply built  "cookie cutter" wood framed apartment buildings built (I should say "slapped together") in the 70s which had electric baseboard heating that you couldn't put anything in front of (made for some creative furniture arranging).  One of the things I always wondered about those places is why the heating units were always placed right under the largest window in each room rather than on an interior wall. I always felt the contractor must have invested in the local power utility as the windows in those places were all single pane glass which offered zero insulation and made a perfect "heat leak". 

    That's exactly why they place them under windows.  Heats the air before the draft can go far into the room.  Single pane?  Yikes!

    Dana 

    ....because of the thin single paine glass, we had to keep the heating units cranked all the way up which of course led ot ridiculoisly high power bills in the winter..

    Yeah as I alluded to, places like that were cheaply built. back in the 1970s. and often poorly maintained by the owners.

    It was basically a privately managed student apartment complex across the street from the campus. while I was there the owner cut down a lot of lodgepole pine trees that provided windbreaks in winter and shade in the summer (particularly if you lived in a second floor unit like I did) The excuse they gave was the trees caused damage to the roofs by promoting moss growth (but that was due more to cheap materials and lack of proper maintenance).  Found out months later they sold all the wood for firewood (management there was pretty sketchy)  I've been in vacation homes at the coast that were better constructed.

    I guess the builders thought Olympia would never have true winter like temperatures even though the city is at the very southern tip of Puget Sound and doesn't get much if any "moderating effect" as Seattle and Tacoma do.

    DanaTA said:

    You wouldn't do well here this weekend!  Saturday morning, around dawn, it will be about -4F.  Wind chill will be in the negative 20s!  The high for Saturday is expected to be about 14F.  Diane asked about grocery shopping on Saturday, but I told her that I'm not going out, not even across the street to get our mail!  On Sunday, back into the mid 40s for a high.

    Dana

    ...precisely why I left northern Wisconsin 43 years ago.

    Just checked the conditions for the college town I lived in there  and the temperatures is forecast to get down to -15² (F). Even in Milwaukee 155 miles SE where I grew up, the forecast low tonight is -4° (F).

    Post edited by kyoto kid on
  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,254

    Charlie Judge said:

    Sfariah said:

    Does anyone know anything about heroine?

    Which heroine ? 

    The ones made from genesis 9? 

  • carrie58carrie58 Posts: 3,982

    Sfariah said:

    Charlie Judge said:

    Sfariah said:

    Does anyone know anything about heroine?

    Which heroine ? 

    The ones made from genesis 9? 

    The one made by Joe Quick ? Toon Hero's female  .

  • Hello everyone. I am going to break my silence and dive into this shark infested pond because something very weird happened on my weekend. My weekend is different than normal people's. Off Tuesday and Wednesday. I was doing a character render on DS. Offline because I don't have internet at the house. Only internet I use is either at Dad's house (secured) or at work (unsecured). Got a song stuck in my head now. "So Weird" by Risk (German metal band). What happened might (or might not) stump the Knower of All, the Wise Wizard of The Word, The Grand Pubah of The Paragraph, the DAZ Times #1 bestselling author, aka McGyver. This character I loaded up has the ability to freeze cursors. She even has the ability to stop time. Ok I put together simple picture. Nothing extravagant. Hit render button. Came back several hours later to check on the render. It was finished BUT I noticed I could not move the curser to type a name in the box. Mouse did not work. Pad did not work. Strange. And I'm offline the whole time. Then I noticed the computers clock had stopped 40 minutes behind what the actual time was. So the clock had stopped. Very strange indeed. Only thing that worked was the power button. Powered down. Start back up. Started up just perfectly fine. Opened DAZ back up. No problems there. Loaded a different character up, hit render button, picture came out fine. Everything worked. Clock even worked. Except the time was still 40 minutes behind. I'm at lunch break at work. 2:30 a.m. MST. Got the clock fixed. Just a weird experience. Had to come here and blab about it. If The Old Scrooge has to edit this, that's fine. Anybody else have anything weird or strange happen to them while using DS? My silence has been broken. My lunch has gone cold.

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    starionwolf said:

    i'm waiting for the arctic air to arrive.

    We'll send it your way... Although, as it travels over the north pole, it may pick up even colder weather on the way.

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,503
    edited February 2023

    @ Cobalt42 "Anybody else have anything weird or strange happen to them while using DS? My silence has been broken. "  Yes, for years, It seemed to suck the money straight from my credit card.  I finally put a stop to it though and stopped perusing the catalog.enlightenedwink

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,254

    carrie58 said:

    Sfariah said:

    Charlie Judge said:

    Sfariah said:

    Does anyone know anything about heroine?

    Which heroine ? 

    The ones made from genesis 9? 

    The one made by Joe Quick ? Toon Hero's female  .

    yes! 

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