The OMG It is 2017 This thread's end is Nigh Complaint Thread.

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  • Jan19Jan19 Posts: 1,109
    Tjohn said:
    MistyMist said:

    columbus day weekend!

    no idea who the america dude we named after.  they never mentioned him in school, he doesnt have a holiday named after him ???

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerigo_Vespucci

    And it was in the history books when I went to school.

    yes​ 

    That's the one.

     

     

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    was just thinkin, could i do 3 monitor setuo now?  
    with the gt730 and the onboard graphic
    dont have 3rd monitor to test

  • hacsarthacsart Posts: 2,027
    edited October 2016

    This is a computer room... (my workplace in the 80's..)

     

    and from the mid 1970's

     

    Chohole said:

    Computer room ?      Computer room ?    hmm.   We didn't even have calculators    Books and brains was all we used.

     

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    wish i could think of visuals like this.  when the movie came out i had a fascination with it, lasted a few years.

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,652
    edited October 2016

    Tapes, tapes, and more tapes.  It was the "in" thing back then.  9-track, 800 or 1600bpi was current data recording technology then.  But I was at the Kennedy Space Center in an underfunded lab and we had a 7-track, 200bpi antique.  I don't remember the manufacturer but it was serial #1 surprise  I know, because something went wrong with it and we had to contact the manufacturer to get them to explain why it didn't have an adjustment control on the main circuitboard where the picture in the manual (remember when machines had acurate manuals?) said it should.  Their reply was: "They all have that control... except serial #1 which was the prototype".  So we looked,  and sure enough we had serial #1.  Their reply was "Oh, so you're the guys that got that.  We wondered where it had gone." Then they gave us special instructions to tweak the thing we needed to tweak without needing the missing documented built-in tweaker

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    8 tracks!

     

    caturday 

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,528

    I am finally back home.  It is raining and pouring outside.  I am probably not going anywhere tomorrow.

  • TangoAlphaTangoAlpha Posts: 4,584
    Tjohn said:

    Banda machines we called them, and I can still remember the smell!

  • OstadanOstadan Posts: 1,128

    The first computer I used (an early 1960s time-sharing system).  I use this picture in a slide in a presentation I've given about rendering in DS, to emphasize that computers today are so powerful that they enable people to do things that only professionals could once accomplish (typesetting, music mixing, animation, etc.).AN/FSQ-32

  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,221
    Tjohn said:

    Banda machines we called them, and I can still remember the smell!

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,973
    Tjohn said:

    Banda machines we called them, and I can still remember the smell!

    And if you smell it long enough everything you see gets duplicated lol

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,213
    Chohole said:

    Computer room ?      Computer room ?    hmm.   We didn't even have calculators    Books and brains was all we used.

    ...I had a slide rule and even knew how to use it.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,213

    I am finally back home.  It is raining and pouring outside.  I am probably not going anywhere tomorrow.

    ...received a weather alert this morning. heavy rain will move in late tonight and persist all day tomorrow. The forecast now calls for 3" - in some places 5" before this storm front moves off. Local flooding advisories have been issued.  Unfortunately I have to be somewhere tomorrow (waiting at bus stops with sparse Sunday schedules and no shelters either).

    At least I'm no longer in that half cellar flat anymore  Crikey, would need to sandbag the entire entrance and rent a pump to keep it from getting flooded.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,213
    Ostadan said:

    The first computer I used (an early 1960s time-sharing system).  I use this picture in a slide in a presentation I've given about rendering in DS, to emphasize that computers today are so powerful that they enable people to do things that only professionals could once accomplish (typesetting, music mixing, animation, etc.).AN/FSQ-32

    ...and to think, we can carry more power than the above in our pockets these days.

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,528

    Love the head but hate the headache so I took a painkiller.

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,652
    edited October 2016
    kyoto kid said:
    Chohole said:

    Computer room ?      Computer room ?    hmm.   We didn't even have calculators    Books and brains was all we used.

    ...I had a slide rule and even knew how to use it.

    Slide rules:  marvelous devices.  Accurate to about 3 digits but not trivial to use.  I had a typical 1 inch wide Picket brand yellow metal one with basic scales on it, all through college.  But when handheld calculators appeared I saw the handwriting on the wall and realized that sliderules would become obsolete and only found in the bottoms of a box in an attic.  So I ate ketsup soup for a month and saved enough to buy the biggest  & best slide rule that the college bookstore had.  It was another metal Picket about 2 inches wide and had double and triple length square and cube root scales as well as hyperbolic function scales and the special logarithm scales too.  It's still in pristine condition in its original box with an unblemished leather carrying case sitting at the bottom of a storage box in my attic. laugh 

    I think it was this one

     

    S090_Pickett_N4-ES.jpg
    1976 x 900 - 356K
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  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,221
    kyoto kid said:
    Chohole said:

    Computer room ?      Computer room ?    hmm.   We didn't even have calculators    Books and brains was all we used.

    ...I had a slide rule and even knew how to use it.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited October 2016

    Mime memes

    mime a cat  tee hee

     

     

    faces of Yul

     

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  • hacsarthacsart Posts: 2,027

    Ah yes, tapes...

    Tapes, tapes, and more tapes.  It was the "in" thing back then.  9-track, 800 or 1600bpi was current data recording technology then.  But I was at the Kennedy Space Center in an underfunded lab and we had a 7-track, 200bpi antique.  I don't remember the manufacturer but it was serial #1 surprise  I know, because something went wrong with it and we had to contact the manufacturer to get them to explain why it didn't have an adjustment control on the main circuitboard where the picture in the manual (remember when machines had acurate manuals?) said it should.  Their reply was: "They all have that control... except serial #1 which was the prototype".  So we looked,  and sure enough we had serial #1.  Their reply was "Oh, so you're the guys that got that.  We wondered where it had gone." Then they gave us special instructions to tweak the thing we needed to tweak without needing the missing documented built-in tweaker

     

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,973
    hacsart said:

    Ah yes, tapes...

     

    Today all that could probably be stored on a single hard disk.

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,652
    edited October 2016
    Taozen said:
    hacsart said:

    Ah yes, tapes...

     

    Today all that could probably be stored on a single hard disk.

    1600 bytes per inch x 12 inches in a foot x 2400 feet on a reel = 48,080,000 bytes/reel

    256GB on a 1/4 inch square memory mini-chip, divided by 48MB* per tape = 5,555 tapes on one chip!

     

    *Note: actual data capacity was about 45MB because of gaps between data records.

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • Taozen said:
    hacsart said:

    Ah yes, tapes...

     

    Today all that could probably be stored on a single hard disk.

    1600 bytes per inch x 12 inches in a foot x 2400 feet on a reel = 48,080,000 bytes/reel

    256GB on a 1/4 inch square memory mini-chip, divided by 48MB* per tape = 5,555 tapes on one chip!

     

    *Note: actual data capacity was about 45MB because of gaps between data records.

    Just imagine all that data on punched cards at 80 bytes per card!!! surprise

     

  • hacsarthacsart Posts: 2,027

    By the end of the 9`track reel era, densitys got up to 6250bpi, which, allowing for the (as you suggest) inter-block gap, and the header and footer tape before and after the reflective tape spot, you got around 140MB max (with large files being copied - copying multiple small files to tape cost about 3 1/2 inches of lost tape due to the end-of-file markers)

    1600 bytes per inch x 12 inches in a foot x 2400 feet on a reel = 48,080,000 bytes/reel

    256GB on a 1/4 inch square memory mini-chip, divided by 48MB* per tape = 5,555 tapes on one chip!

     

    *Note: actual data capacity was about 45MB because of gaps between data records.

     

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,973
    Taozen said:
    hacsart said:

     

    Today all that could probably be stored on a single hard disk.

    1600 bytes per inch x 12 inches in a foot x 2400 feet on a reel = 48,080,000 bytes/reel

    256GB on a 1/4 inch square memory mini-chip, divided by 48MB* per tape = 5,555 tapes on one chip!

    *Note: actual data capacity was about 45MB because of gaps between data records.

    48MB? Rotating heads (like in VCRs) weren't invented then I assume. I recall a backup utility for Commodore C64 (I think) that used a VCR to store the data on VHS tapes.

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,973

    Just imagine all that data on punched cards at 80 bytes per card!!! surprise

    Hm, where did that rain forest go? 

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,213
    kyoto kid said:
    Chohole said:

     Computer room ?      Computer room ?    hmm.   We didn't even have calculators    Books and brains was all we used.

    ...I had a slide rule and even knew how to use it.

    Slide rules:  marvelous devices.  Accurate to about 3 digits but not trivial to use.  I had a typical 1 inch wide Picket brand yellow metal one with basic scales on it, all through college.  But when handheld calculators appeared I saw the handwriting on the wall and realized that sliderules would become obsolete and only found in the bottoms of a box in an attic.  So I ate ketsup soup for a month and saved enough to buy the biggest  & best slide rule that the college bookstore had.  It was another metal Picket about 2 inches wide and had double and triple length square and cube root scales as well as hyperbolic function scales and the special logarithm scales too.  It's still in pristine condition in its original box with an unblemished leather carrying case sitting at the bottom of a storage box in my attic. laugh 

    I think it was this one

     

    ...mine was similar but not yellow.  It now resides on a bookcase shelf on top of it's leather sheath.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,213
    edited October 2016
    Taozen said:
    hacsart said:

    Ah yes, tapes...

     

    Today all that could probably be stored on a single hard disk.

    1600 bytes per inch x 12 inches in a foot x 2400 feet on a reel = 48,080,000 bytes/reel

    256GB on a 1/4 inch square memory mini-chip, divided by 48MB* per tape = 5,555 tapes on one chip!

     

    *Note: actual data capacity was about 45MB because of gaps between data records.

    Just imagine all that data on punched cards at 80 bytes per card!!! surprise

     

    ...I almost can.

    (OK, get the large industrial sized forklift and start unloading those half dozen 53' trailers parked out back....and Joe call the temp agency).

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,213

    ...ugh rain started several hours earlier than predicted.  Got soaked on my way back form the market. Feel like a drowned rat right now.  Really don't want to go anywhere tomorrow, especially since all the buses will be off schedule because of the marathon.

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,260
    MistyMist said:

    i'm out of realestate on the main form of my database project.
     

    the bus was 2 hours late last night.  my bus stop, no shelter, no bench.
    leaned against the signpost, there some tree leaves for shelter 
    i was so out of it when the bus finally showed up, had my first experience of being "managed"
    lady was older than me, lol
    the handicap seats were all folded up cuz of someone with luggage.
    it's like my brain couldn't process it.  i was whining i wanted to sit in the old lady seats.  so, this older than me lady grabbed my arm and steered me to a regular set.

    bus was packed, all the commuters, was like 3 bus loads of people all on one bus.  was like being in the city again.

    then 2 buses showed up back to back.

    i'm just realizing now what happened yesterday.  when yoo old people want to push yoo around.
    get off my lawn
     

    Have mercy!

     

    Dana

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,260
    Tjohn said:
    MistyMist said:

    columbus day weekend!

    no idea who the america dude we named after.  they never mentioned him in school, he doesnt have a holiday named after him ???

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerigo_Vespucci

    And it was in the history books when I went to school.

    Yup, I was just about to post that!  Had the spelling different, but same dude.  But why not call it New Norway?  Some think Vikings made it here long before either of the others.

    Dana

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