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denial is starting to wear off, resistance les reality noooooooo :) impulse check @ seventy percents
Yeah - been thinking the same - just as I do when someone mentions "climate change" for an excuse. Like "Climate Change" on its own is a bad thing or unexpected. Neither is taking a new path in marketing. If they only considered the effect of the opposite - the lack of change: People stuck in tradition are destined to never to evolve and adapt. And we may still be in the ice-age.
Are you referring to dinosaurs? :lol:
I would assume that despite those 'lackluster responses', DAZ still made a gazillion more $$$ than in previous years of those sales and decided that they rather have a happy bank account than a happy forum :D
I would assume that despite those 'lackluster responses', DAZ still made a gazillion more $$$ than in previous years of those sales and decided that they rather have a happy bank account than a happy forum :D
That's one way to interpret DAZ's behavior, sure. Nonetheless, without enough happy customers DAZ's bank account won't stay happy.
Usually in this sale I hit my wishlist every day and search it for "50%" -- can't do that this time. Nor can I search my wishlist for the day's vendors names. And since I've been wishlisting products all year for this sale, that's a problem for me -- and for DAZ, and for the PAs, if things I intended to buy this month don't get bought because of this.
I agree Kick.... these type sales make the wishlist useless unless you spend valuable time comparing your wishlist to browsing through the various product lists and stores and if you can find 3 items on your wishlist or that you might use even though they didn't interest you enough when they came out to land on your wishlist. But I am saving money so not complaining too much... I have way too much content I need to use already.
deconstructing several months worth of constructing a w/l for the pa sale. :(
I just search my wishlist for "Save 30%" -- some of those turn out to be on their initial release sale rather than PA sale, but there aren't that many to go through, at least for me. I have 114 items on my wishlist and they're mostly PA items.
...I think it's a pain we can't use items by a featured PA that are priced under 3$. For example, When Jack Tomalin comes up, a good portion of his store will be exempt from the sale as he creates a lot of 1.99/2.99$ items. In this tight economy having pretty much only higher price items to choose from makes it a lot more difficult to get the 50%.
So far, I only have one multiple item purchase (shaders by Marieah that were all in the 5 - 6$ range). Been having to settle for only the 30% discount on a couple of purchases because the other items I wanted which were on sale that day cost more than 10$ each. Yesterday it came down to a choice between Sickle Yield's Dress Rig for G2F and Sisters by ForbiddenWhispers/JSGraphics. Could only afford one, but not both. In the end, the Dress Rig won as it allows me to use a wider selection of clothing content.
This format is really making it hard on some of us.
At this point, I don't see where this sale differs from the many "buy this many get this much off" sales we've already experienced. Since most of the featured vendors have been in similar sales more than once over the past months, what's the difference if you buy it now or three months from now?
Yes, there will be vendors who rarely put their stores on sale included but that's about it.
...that's the way I am looking at it. I have several items by vendors who's stores only go on sale during this event.
I think one of the differences is that there are also new items being released every single day. You can also mix and match between featured Premier Artists where in the past the selection wasn't as wide. Rarely if ever can you save 50% off on as many stores as you can right now. Rarely if ever can you save 50% off of new releases.
One of the reasons for the Premier Artists' Festival is to showcase the awesome PA's we have here at DAZ. I think the only other time of the year where we have this many great products launching every single day is during March Madness.
Yes, but none of that is really new.
What is new are the reduced discounts/savings and increased hoop hopping held up by attached strings.
I guess if you find mixing and matching to be the new definition of fun.
And you think saving less money than two years ago is some kind of empirical evidence of continued human advancement, then this ... this is the sale for you.
What is "new" today will not be considered "new" 2 months from now so it really isn't that big a deal. So far, I haven't seen anything new offered that I don't already have from other brokers or vendors.
There are 2 sides to a sale. I'm on the side that says "how much can I can for x dollars?" The other side says "how much of your money can I get?" Well, my answer is only as much as I have in my budget, and not even all of that, in case I find something else I want.
The way these DAZ sales are structured these days--- and I don't find anything different about this one compared to any other ones in the past months, I can't figure out how much I can get for my X dollars. I only have X dollars budgeted, so any over elaborate pricing scheme makes my eyes spin and I just move on. I can't rely upon the shopping cart, with all the rules. I like to know before I put something in my cart. It's not old fashioned to want to know how much something costs. Even rich people will try for a bargain.
I'm a hobbyist on fixed income. However, it seems to me that such a market still can have a positive return for a merchant. In fact, I recently shopped 2 different competitors's sales that were straightforward, "all items in this aisle are X dollars". So then it only remained to decide which of the items I was going to choose. They had me at my budget. It was a done deal.
I did buy many things at old DAZ sales that way and still use the PC. But conditional sales don't spin my wheels. This is supposed to be fun. Math is not fun for me. I don't buy at complicated conditional sales at brick and mortar, and I don't here. I got $20 to spend. Where will I spend it? Too paltry a sum? I'm sure somebody will take it, and without lectures on how things are supposed to cost more these days. I heard enough of that crap all my childhood from my parents who grew up during the Great Depression. What matters is, can I afford it? Is it fun? I have to feel like I got some treasures for my money when I open my Downloads file.
...well said. (CoudFlare tried to keep me from posting this).
Here's the thing. In the past, having vouchers, and coupons and flash sales, I would buy single thing, a LOT. Every sale there was at least one item that I couldn't resist. Spending 6-10 dollars here or there is a lot easier to convince yourself "just a little bit is okay" to buy. Those "little" purchases added up, quite a bit.
Only these days, EVERY promotion has a lot of strings attached. Buy three to get this discount! Pay at least $25 dollars to save a few bucks! Become a member to save 50% on a half upgrade of Carrara! Pay at least this much to use your PC coupon, and only on Daz Os.... etc.
The result is that the minimum purchase price point has drastically increased. Savings may be the same, more or less, I'm nto sure. But the price point to get those savings is much higher. That's a careful, calculated, and decided move from Daz to make that happen. And ultimately, it means that all those $10 dollar purchases have dwindled to maybe once a month, if that. I think Daz is missing out on a certain buyer base with these kinds of sales, but perhaps these smaller price points don't matter much anymore in a sea of bigger fish. :(
By this point last year I'd spent $70. Most of those orders were less than $20. This year nothing has attracted me enough to look for 3 items. I'm sure something will, eventually. Or I'll wait until the catch up sale. If theres no catch up sale, oh well my bank balance will be happy.
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Folks, could you please tell me when exactly does the 50% discount crop up? I've been experimenting with the cart and checkout modes for the last several minutes, and I can't seem to get it, not even on the PayPal webscreen. I'm adding items featured on the "Hot Promotions" page right now:
http://www.daz3d.com/horror-survivors-cris-for-v6
http://www.daz3d.com/handy-dandy
http://www.daz3d.com/fantastical-features-genesis-2-female
Before that, I tried putting several SY's items in the cart along with her new release, but either way - I'm stuck at 30%.
I was hoping to make use of that mailing list coupon (there should be enough SY stuff in my wishlist to qualify for it even with the 50% discount), but now I really feel like waiting for the ketchup fest as well (and hopefully the rouble exchange rate is going to look better by the end of month... maybe).
First thing to remember is that is half off the full list price of the item not half off the discounted price. I just put the three items you listed into the cart and the discount is showing. Did you actually go the shopping cart page? The discount doesn't show if you just use the drop down.
Yes I did, and farther than that. The paypal screen I wrote about. *goes on to grumble about people not reading the posts they respond to with enough attention yadda yadda yadda*
But thank you aplenty for pointing it out to me that the cart does not display the full price before the discount, but the already-discounted one. This I didn't notice. I never bought anything in those multiple-stack-whatever sales before, so I assumed it would behave like it does normally.
It's unbelievably inconvenient, but I guess it's the price we have to pay for the awesomeness which is the new Product Library.
Now I'm off to hang around my wishlist with a calculator.
...and I used to think the 2011 (was it 2011?) heatwave sale was a major headache!
As an electrical engineer who develops embedded computing platforms, I'm reasonably good at math and figuring out complicated concepts. But these sales lately are a pain in the @$$. Everywhere I look, they are explained slightly differently and neither I nor the shopping cart software can seem to find the magic combination that triggers a 50% discount.
Part of the problem is that I've been a PC member for I think around 10 years now. I already have most of the things that are on sale or I already have something similar for another figure or from another site. Finding three items that I actually want / need on the same day during the appropriate phase of the moon while the wind is blowing from the northwest is nearly impossible.
At the moment, I have several PA items in my cart or on my wishlist whose original prices total $252.85 (plus much more in the "might buy" category). Had this sale been run like those in the past, where the 50% discount didn't require me to not already own so much content, run an obstacle course, and cast the appropriate spell, DAZ and those PAs would already have or soon would have $126.43 of my hard earned money - they would have been instant buys at a guaranteed 50% off. As it stands now, DAZ and those PAs have exactly $0 from me.
So DAZ, you really need to ask yourselves, isn't getting $126.43 (or more) from me better than $0?
Several other 3D sites both big and small have already benefited from this poorly run sale scheme because that is where my money went instead. Between these convoluted sales and eliminating the PC discount on PA items I've all but given up on the big sales here. DAZ, you need to change the way you do business if you want to continue getting my money.
Yes I did, and farther than that. The paypal screen I wrote about. *goes on to grumble about people not reading the posts they respond to with enough attention yadda yadda yadda*
But thank you aplenty for pointing it out to me that the cart does not display the full price before the discount, but the already-discounted one. This I didn't notice. I never bought anything in those multiple-stack-whatever sales before, so I assumed it would behave like it does normally.
It's unbelievably inconvenient, but I guess it's the price we have to pay for the awesomeness which is the new Product Library.
Now I'm off to hang around my wishlist with a calculator.
...and I used to think the 2011 (was it 2011?) heatwave sale was a major headache!
Sorry, I don't use PayPal. There have been way too many issues between DAZ and PayPal over the past couple of years for me to ever use it.
I'm not sure if the inconvenience is due to the Product Library or just another oddity of Magneto.
Careful. Don't say that last too loudly or DAZ will decide to do another one of their "doorbuster" sales. That one was a real PIA.
If you're bored and want to have some fun, first pick three items in the current day's sale. Add up the full price of the three items and do a standard fifty percent discount. Keep note of that amount.
Toss those same items into your cart and let the cart page do the calculations and see if they match.
This will tell you if the cart is doing the old "take the total of all the items at 30 percent and then figure up the remaining discount from that total".
Sorry if I'm making your headache worse...
I just did that with my SickleYield selection. The cart said it wanted $21.94, while SMath ( http://www.smathstudio.com/ ) said it should be $21.925. That's negligible actually...
http://www.daz3d.com/fantastical-features-genesis-2-female
http://www.daz3d.com/articles-of-punishment
http://www.daz3d.com/dirty-denim
11.95+15.95+15.95=43.85
43.85/2=21.925
But I also added the current "free" bridges without checking the calculations...
http://www.daz3d.com/the-bridge-collection
...and now I'm looking at the final price, with the $5 coupon off, and I'm wondering if I should have left those bridges alone - because I paid $17.87 which is almost a dollar higher than I expected.
Either I am even more stupid than I might be after a long day at work (it's about 9 PM here), or there is something actually strange going on...
Mustakettu can you PM me the order number. We want to make sure the $5 dollar coupon is working properly. The two cents price difference when calculating the 50% off was probably due to rounding. The $5 dollar coupon not applying properly is more concerning. If you PM me the order number it will help us track down the issue.
If you didn't actually place the order, if you could post a screen shot of your cart page that would be just as helpful. Thanks.
I just did that with my SickleYield selection. The cart said it wanted $21.94, while SMath ( http://www.smathstudio.com/ ) said it should be $21.925. That's negligible actually...
http://www.daz3d.com/fantastical-features-genesis-2-female
http://www.daz3d.com/articles-of-punishment
http://www.daz3d.com/dirty-denim
11.95+15.95+15.95=43.85
43.85/2=21.925
But I also added the current "free" bridges without checking the calculations...
http://www.daz3d.com/the-bridge-collection
...and now I'm looking at the final price, with the $5 coupon off, and I'm wondering if I should have left those bridges alone - because I paid $17.87 which is almost a dollar higher than I expected.
Either I am even more stupid than I might be after a long day at work (it's about 9 PM here), or there is something actually strange going on...
Ahhh I see the problem...Apply this function and your results will be clarified.
I think the quantum electrodynamics version is more applicable LOL
To be precise, it's because the store calculates the discount price on each item individually, rounding each to the nearest cent, before adding the items up for the total price.
It's always been like this, ever since the change to the new store. I honestly think no-one at DAZ realises just how much confusion this is causing — and yes, many people have tried to tell them, including me. :-/
It's always been like this, ever since the change to the new store. I honestly think no-one at DAZ realises just how much confusion this is causing — and yes, many people have tried to tell them, including me. :-/
Trust me, we understand. It's just there isn't an easy solution to the problem. It's been something we've been looking at for a while.
...return to a simple single flat discount rate across the board whether someone purchases one or ten items, and suddenly, all the "voodoo math" anxiety goes away and everyone is happy again.