Show Us Your Bryce Renders! Part 6
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All right David, keep on working! I've allready take a look at your related videos, very instructive. It'll be good if i could find application to this technics in a future landscape render.
Hmn... can't think that there would be a lot of use for sss in a landscape, it does tend to me more of a small to human scale effect. Here's another little render experiment with this process. Render time about one hour.
Looks amazing, David. This latest example is very convincing. SSS is essential for landscapes as every single leaf on every single tree technically should have translucency at a minimum, but a full SSS isn't a bad idea either if one can muster up the render time. Very nice work David, as always!
You're right Rashad. That's what i was thinking about when I talk about a landscape application of SSS effect. SSS on leaves could have a good impact and give a new look to a picture. It also going to increase render time but actual renders are at these price.
Wow. I'm flattered that people would want to recreate my 'Metal Thing' and the results came out looking good guys.
So here's the last two from this set of four, though I'm just on with a render that will pull all four together (hopefully) :)
@gussnemo
Here are the pictures I was going to upload for you yesterday.
Just click on the "Mixed shots" image. Theres 8 pics in the order
you need if you want to have a go.
Sorry for the delay.
https://mypixels.shutterfly.com
@TheSavage64.
Love what you're doing with all the metal objects (whatever they are):)
@dan whiteside.
Thankyou very much, you're most kind.
Rashad, ah, yes SSS for leaves... well... the thing is, in terms of efficiency, this process might not adapt well to leaves... but it is an interesting idea... I will experiment.
Dan! Great renders, I saw them and liked them in the gallery. How can it take two months to fix being able to log in?
Dave, more nice things! I won't try to copy every one, they do look good though.
Another couple of scattering experiments. Render times just under an hour. As you can see, not every one turns out as well as another, there are a lot of variables in terms of what can be done. It will be a while I think before I've got my head around this.
@Dave - incredible objects.
@David - interesting examples. Though I did't experiment as much as you, this is what I found out as well: not each one gives the expected results.
Thanks Stuart, David and Horo.
It's been a lot of fun doing these, partly because I don't usually do 'abstract' type renders, partly because I haven't had much opportunity to play with geometry in design for a while and partly because David & Horo's 'Heating Room' metal materials set has some wonderful materials to use (and sometimes abuse).
So the final (really!) render from this collection is my attempt to tie all of them together.
Aye, for these I'm using a -ht to soak up ambient rays that enter the surface of the model, but it requires, as you might expect, careful light balancing, since there is no such thing in real life as light that actively absorbs more than a fully black surface. It is as weird as it is interesting.
Edit, very nice render Dave, also nice of you to mention our product!
Three minute TA render. 16 rpp. Note the noise. Default Bryce sun (100% shadow intensity) as light source, sky hdri background providing additional light via TA optimised in IBL.
The leaves admit light but cast a reasonable shadow, scatter light internally and do not glow. Issues... render time.
Thanks David. I've also tagged your product on these uploads to my gallery. Always like to help out where I can.
Those leaves look great. Not sure that render time is an issue, could you do a comparison render using regular lighting settings?
The dragon in your previous post looks great too... I'm way behind with the hyper texture exploration as I have only managed to watch one tutorial and it wasn't the forst one you did on this subject so I didn't rightly understand what was going on.
Will catch up eventually. :)
So.. Scatter light doesn't work properly with leaves? That's a sad news.. I'll look forward to learn your sss technic when a video will be available on your YouTube channel and then to apply it on some objects, I have some ideas until I have seen it.
Hi Folks;
Have been messing around this past week to create some props for a major render project. These props once shrunk down for this particular project won't show much detail, but I tend to get a bit anal in trying to put details into my models even when they are just intended for use as a distant background prop, at least for now. But I have run into a bit of a mystery while rendering a small boat model I made in Bryce from primitives.
I had put some wood textured seats in the boat and then made another cube primitive on top that I textured so they would look like seat cushions. But if you look at the first render, you will notice an odd blue reflection of some sort extending off the two rear seat cushions, but yet when I view the same scene from above, you only notice this blue showing along the edges. It should be noted the lighting angles were not changed, only the camera angle. Also all of the seats started as one unit and I then duplicated them adjusting only the width to fit the contours of the boat. Yet this odd blue only shows up on the rear 2 seats???
Wondering if anyone has run into a similar situation in the past as this one has me stumped... Thanks for looking and appreciate any ideas to explain this strange anomaly.
Have a great weekend all....
Bruce
. a simple fix would be to redo them or copy paste and resize one of the unaffected ones. you did something to them, but it's hard to discern what. closest thing I can guess is if you're using boolean, make sure the right parts are positive or negative or neutral.
Just a quick post and I am off to bed.....The Windmill
Looking nice Trish... If you want suggestions, I'd widen the lens or make the document square so we get to see all of the windmill. :)
After last week's model building of the Effects pedal foot switch, last night I started modelling this power amp.
Completely untextured at the moment.
Been playing around with hollowed-out tori (see second image) and the effects produced using various mats, lighting, camera angles or FOV changes...etc., can lead to some wonderful surreal to abstract works.
Title: "Bowman's Return"
Jay
Edit: Damn craetes typo...ooops ;)
Another 'torusy-thingy'...
Title: "Hell"
Jay
Bruce: that reflection matches your water color....does your seat connect to the sides of the boat???
Dave : good point that would have made more sense than me trying to angle the camera .......
Jay: great stuff....although the hell one is kind of creepy.....
@Dave - great corner of a room with the "paintings" and the objects. Nicely lit, too. Amplifier model looks awesome even in grey.
@David - if there are no options, it is great to find at least ways to emulate. With the tree leaves, they appear the way like if a bit of transparency is used. Now if they render faster and are not too tedious to set up, then that's an alternative.
@Bruce - dinghy looks great, I have no idea what the reason could be for this weird issue.
@Trish - landscape with mill looks very nice. I agree with Dave, the image needs more height. Since the mill is the main focus, it shouldn't get cropped.
@Jamahoney - Bowman's Return looks very good. I like the effect. But why hollowing the torus? It is already hollow. I did some abstracts quite a while ago with the camera in a torus. Hell is a bit creepy as Trish pointed out. But then, hell is supposed to be creepy I reckon.
Thanks Horo.
Still playing with it, I've neatened up the fan slots on the front and added a few more detailing bits... Also now looking at materials but not done with that one yet.
Cheers, as usual, Trish...always an encouraging comment.
Horo..., darn it, but I didn't know that...I mainly look, experiment around with the image I want to create, and then, to my peril, at times (like now), ignore the actual tech/normals behind it (ignoring the tools of the trade - from software to pixels, brushes to paints).
Jay
David – interesting experiments. Hope I get some time this weekend to try some of your tutorials.
Dan – great artwork very impressive.
Hansmar – I can see a children’s book in the making.
Dave – the final work, the room one, is stunning. Amplifier looks awesome. Do you use the primitives in Bryce for all your modeling?
Bruce – the boat looks great.
Trish - landscape with mill looks very nice.
Jamahoney – the tori renders are nice but a bit creepy.
Horo..., darn it, but I didn't know that.
I always look into an object, Bryce trees and branches are also hollow ...
I couldn't help it to play with a torus, a bit reflecting and a bit transparent. A thin torus is inside it with white diffuse. The light comes from an HDRI from inside located in the centre of the torus and it is also rendered as background and seeps into the torus. The HDRI WpH32 comes with our Hypertextures product. Between the renders, I only moved the camera a bit and changed max ray depth. You get addicted, there are thousands of permutations. Each render finished well below 30 seconds. The camera looks through the EWL so we have a FOV of 340°.
"...there are thousands of permutations..."
No-true-a-word: it looks like experimentation is as 'variable' as the 'software' (Bryce) allows.,
Jay
Thanks :)
Yes, I use the Bryce primitives and Rashad's 'Addition Primitives' from the preset library. :)
Accepted, your mastery of the language is better. I spare you the experiments I made in the meantime using 2 tori at 90°.
@GussNemo: I did experiment a bit with MRD (assuming you mean maximum ray depth), which doesn't seem to do anything here. By the way, both animals are metaballs and a few spheres!
@Horo: I also tried to change the shadow casting and self shadows from the box (room) and also tried to fiddle some more with the settings of the 'backgrounds' (lights). Did not help. I tried upping and downing the refraction of the room material (up: makes it darker, down makes it lighter; something I didn't realise so far). But the grain remains. In the picture below, the dark box was with maximum refraction on the wall material, the light box with minimum and the surrounding with 'air'.
Then I tried several ways for anti aliasing. Catmull-Rom gives more shatter on the wall, Mitchell-Netravali too. Others don't differ.
Soft reflections? No good. IBL quality up (more lights): big increase in render time, no help.
Let's try whatever I can find: Blurry reflections? no. Blurry transmissions: no.Total internal reflection? no.
So, unless David Brinnen has a brilliant idea (no doubt): I'm beginning to think there is nothing I can do about it!
@TheSavage64: Super metal things! Really like the bottom one very much! And the renders in render one is fabulous.
@David Brinnen: Wonderful experiments with SSS. Your Stanford dragon looks great! And the tree doesn't look so bad to me either.
@bullit35744: I agree: would like to see the whole mill.
@mermaid010: who knows?
@David Brinnen: Looks very promising. I especially like the tree.
@goshtac: I am afraid, I have no clue. I reminds me of an effect, when you are using a negative boolean with the same size and position like the positive, but this is not the point in your scene, I think.
@Trish: Nice picture. I wonder, how you achive this smooth transition from the brown path to the green grass.
@TheSavage64: Lovely Bryce modell. Bryce is really not the worst modeller.
@Jamahoney: "Bowman's return" looks really great. I like Bowman's outfit and the colours and the lighting, actually I like everything.
@Horo: Interesting abstracts. Very vivid.
@hansmar: When you replace your obscure lighting with an ordinary light, does the grainy effect disappear? If so, it has to do with the lighting method.(I know, it is not that helpful, but at least you know, it has nothing to do with other things, like number of rays, or AA. Hope you find the solution.
I have lately played around with Wings3D and made Wingthings. The picture with the 3 cubes. Two are made with Wings3D, one with Bryce. Guess which ;-)
Started work on the applied graphics... Still needs work... :)
Mermaid...as always, many thanks, and, yes, creepy - true, true. Funny, and frustratingly, I always want to see static images as how they would look like in animated form. It's no problem to do this in Bryce, but, darn it, while it takes just a few 'clicks' to set up, waiting for the render to finalise afterwards get my nerves going (I'm kinda a 'want it now, immediately', bloke - to my detriment ;)).
Horo...gorgeous...never thought of combining tori - great idea, but, as you say "you get addicted"; this torus route.
Elvis...so, so much thanks on the 'Bowman's Return' work - was thinking of Arthur C. Clarke's incredible work - '2001: A Space Odyssey' for awhile, where the main astronaut character, Dave Bowman, goes to a strange, Monolith object. What happens to him afterwards has always been a puzzle, which is part of the attraction of the unknown?
Love the 'cubes', however, should they be of Monollith dimensions (1:4:9 ratio)...hehee ;)
Jay
Wow, I'm so behind things with this thread.
I'll have to catch up tomorrow.
In the meantime, here's a little something I'm working on, he's called 'SnowPea' - he's a little bright in the Bryce renders because he hasn't any decent UV textures yet, and I need to adjust the lighting in here - otherwise he shows up as almost black, 3 Wings3d shots and then it's Bryce, (I'm quite pleased with his carroty nose and his frozen leafy lips) I hope you like him: