Realistic Renders.... NOT! 14: A new frontier.....

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  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,652

    Liking iray more or less same as lux even these dark scenes took around 10 minutes   http://fav.me/d99v7n6    ; http://fav.me/d99v7ll    ; http://fav.me/d99v7mv

     

    Having said that, I am exited for Monday....

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    kyoto kid said:

    ...to me Ailenware is like buying Chopin wodka instead of Luksusowa.  The latter is just as good at less than half the cost for the fancy name brand.  Just went to the Alienware site and the best I could "build (using their  "Area 51") came to over 7,500$ and only had 32 GB of memory a single 8 core I7, three Titan Xs (maximum), one 512 GB  SSD with 2 5400 (not 7200) rpm 4 TB HDDs, and a 1,500 w PSU.  I didn't bother with keyboards, mice, or displays as I already have those. Furthermore, since 2006, Alienware has been a subsidiary of Dell and some feel they lost their "edge" after the acquisition.

     

    The tricky part for my own custom design was finding a good full tower case to put everything in.  Seems everyone's been going to that useless window in the left side panel (where I just want a big fat exhaust fan like my current case has) and LED's lighting everything up inside and out.  I'm not a gamer, I don't need all that technological "bling" that says I am.  Not into rack mounts either as they take up a much larger footprint which is inefficient space wise for only one blade.

    I didn't know Alienware was a subsiduary of Dell, that would make me even less likely to trust them. My first 2 laptops were Dells and they were awful. The first one became unusable thanks to a corrupt MS Install and the screen on the one that replaced it went wrong within a month. Never again would I trust anything they could build!

    I wouldn't ever claim to be a computer expert, but, I managed to build a fully working PC and would always do so again

    CHEERS!

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,041

    I've been buying Dell machines for 15 years, maybe longer, and never had a problem.

    My biggest complaint is that the core Dell site has removed customization entirely, which is f'in awful. I would never buy Dell now except the Alienware subsidiary still has a decent customization element. If THAT ever goes, well.

    As for building, I've managed to destroy a computer just trying to upgrade a power supply. So, yeah. I can't afford the risk.

     

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460

    Well, when my first laptop died it took them over 3 months to sort it out. No one department was in the same place and the left hand didn't know what the right was doing. I was tearing my hair out and so were they. Then, when the screen on the replacement went, they sorted that within a week. I think they use my first one as an example of what not to do when they train their employees now. Regardless, I've never touched them since. Off the shelf lost its appeal when you'd get bogged down with manufacturer bloatware that you couldn't shift till the manufacturer's warranty had run out. Building your own gets you what you want and only that.

    CHEERS!

  • FishtalesFishtales Posts: 6,161

    Hopefully this winter will see my fifth re-build of my tower :)

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460

    I don't plan on doing much else after I replace the GPU, I shouldn't need to.

    CHEERS!

  • FishtalesFishtales Posts: 6,161

    New motherboard; processor and graphics card. I will probably need to replace the five hard drives too as they are IDE drives, either that or get SATA adaptors if I can.

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,652
    edited September 2015

    Turns out there is no problems with the beast. I decided to remain with the amd since I have the nvidia in the ROG laptop & with fast lux coming out I am sure it will be good enough.

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  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460

    That's if you want to continue using Lux. I never have, and now probably never will.

    CHEERS!

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,652

    Well I do and this way I don't have to fork out $600.00 plus for a new GPU..

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460

    $600!? Man, that's some GPU. The one I want is just shy of £200.

    CHEERS!

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,041

    While I'm not interested in Lux, I hope it does everything that's promised for all its fans. ;)

     

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,652
    edited September 2015

    Fair enough but after using it for 3 years I am quite familiar with. It's methods its what eased my transition using into iray. It will be useful to have both at my disposal. 

    I was looking at the GTX980 which is $650. can with a $30.00 mail in rebate, the ti is $900.00 Due to lux being able to use speed with my AMD 2G I can hold off and produce iray with the laptop which has a 980M  Iray render with porper link http://fav.me/d99v7ll

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  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460

    Nice render, I'm not attempting anything like that till I have a GPU. A render just of Nevio took an hour yesterday. There may have been a download going on during that though, but I've no evidence of what it was, unless it was an optional update for Windows.

    CHEERS!

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,202
    Bobvan said:

    Fair enough but after using it for 3 years I am quite familiar with. It's methods its what eased my transition using into iray. It will be useful to have both at my disposal. 

    I was looking at the GTX980 which is $650. can with a $30.00 mail in rebate, the ti is $900.00 Due to lux being able to use speed with my AMD 2G I can hold off and produce iray with the laptop which has a 980M  Iray render with porper link http://fav.me/d99v7ll

    ...I have to credit my time working with Lux to how fast I picked up Iray as well.

    Three more days...

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460

    I'm surprised how far I've come with Iray in just 2 weeks. These are my latest.

    CHEERS!

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  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,652
    edited September 2015

    Last night I started a chapter at work on the laptop, since I had all the materials set for that scenario decided to continue the chapter at home on the beast. Wholly crap! without the nvidia gpu the times are almost as painful as current lux.. Monday can't come soon enough..

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  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460

    Ooh, someone that loves Mondays that's rare!

    CHEERS!

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,652
    edited September 2015

    This would of been done 35 to 40 minutes ago on the nvidia laptop. Before upgrading the GPU on the beast I will see how lux fairs out...

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  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460

    Ouch! That's almost as long as this took in total.

    CHEERS!

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  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,652

    When I said equal to current lux times I was not exaggerating.  But its ok as long as the new Reality / lux delivers, I will simply confine iray renders to the laptop...If not I have the $$ to upgrade the GPU in the beast but Monday is close so may as well see 1st.

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460

    If I raided my savings, I could get a GPU whenever I wanted. Tempting though that might be, I don't doubt there will be significant price drops after Christmas and I usually find myself with loads of spare cash then. Your laptop must have some mega cooling to be able to handle Iray renders, I certainly wouldn't trust mine with them.

    CHEERS!

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,652

    Its a heavy duty gaming laptop and I do have extra 3 year coverage in case

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,669

    Looks good, Rogerbee. I am glad, that you have found your way in iray.

     

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460

    Thanks, I just hope it's not at the expense of my CPU.

    CHEERS!

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,652

    After 2 hours 10 minutes on the beast http://fav.me/d9a0uuy I would post more but cut & paste is borked

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,652

    Im going to get the GPU in the beast! I am reallly liking some iray results im getting back on the laptop 8 minutes average

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460

    Cut and paste is nuts on here, all that ctrl v, can't be doing with that. I'm really enjoying Iray, but, I don't know what it's taking out of my CPU.

    CHEERS!

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,202
    edited September 2015
    Rogerbee said:

    If I raided my savings, I could get a GPU whenever I wanted. Tempting though that might be, I don't doubt there will be significant price drops after Christmas and I usually find myself with loads of spare cash then. Your laptop must have some mega cooling to be able to handle Iray renders, I certainly wouldn't trust mine with them.

    CHEERS!

    ....if I won the Megabucks Lotto I could get a Titan-X (or four that fact, four of them with dual 8 core Xeons and 128 GB of physical  memory).

    Okrzyki!

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  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460

    I think that's what Catharina has, she showed her control panel in a video I watched yesterday. I should think a single 4gb will suffice for my needs. What really annoys me is when an Iray scene loads and it sits for 5 mins with a progress bar saying 'Preparing Scene', which it can go back to if you so much as touch the camera. On Cath's her camera moves were instantaneous, that must take major horsepower!

    One day....

    CHEERS!

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