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It applies to most items even if they are discounted. However the $2.99 item sale states that it doesn't stack with other offers. So they coupons don't discount them.
Charlie Judge said:
It applies to most items even if they are discounted. However the $2.99 item sale states that it doesn't stack with other offers. So they coupons don't discount them.
- Ah ... the art of the close read. I knew that I had seen somewhere about a discount not stacking. I was just looking in the wrong place.
Thanks much.
Now that the Token promotion is over, I can update my previous statement on whether tokens made any difference in my spending habits.
As it turns ouit, the answer was definitely yes. How can I say this for sure?
Because I looked over today's sale and, for the first time in several weeks, I couldn't find anything except the one quarter freebie that attracted my attention enough to consider putting it in my cart. Not at those measly discounts, thank you... let me know when they're at 70% off again.
It didn't change for me at all, the one week expiration date was way too short and forcing me to spend the tokens or lose them I'd rather just lose it and save 100% by not buying something now just to save a few pennies and get something I really want later on. If the tokens had lasted a few weeks or a month before expiring I might have been tempted to buy but the way it was set up I didn't care for at all.
Say what you will about Daz, they are frequently good for a chuckle. I made my first purchase in about a week today (the buy something for at least a buck, get a freebie--an orange banner thing) and, even though the tokens promotion has been over for a few days, I still got the "tokens earned" panel. I earned zero tokens with my purchase. I have 705 days to buy something else before expiration of my absence-of-token non-discount.
Long tokens
Apparently I don't deserve better... Tokens expire in 1 day and 8 hours
The main store page has a banner that says tokens are back by popular demand (last one in rotation).
Shows how observant I am. Eighth promo in the rotation. I've generally moved on from that page by the time #8 rolls around. Anyhow, maybe the tokens thing is working for them, with either a boost to profitable sales or an increase in getting people to acquire a critical mass of Genesis 9 stuff, which would be a larger issue than a temporary promotion.
Nice (and tempting) that the tokens are back! But how long are they valid? The promo text under * reads: "Daz Tokens expire every Sunday at 23:59 MDT (UTC-6)". But under point 3 it says: "They expire after 4 days, so use them before they're gone! Four days or one week validity? Or is 'four days from today (Thursday)' meant - then it would be in accordance with the 'old' rules.
If you have tokens and hover over the i icon in their block on your cart page you will get a pop-up showing how many tokens expire when. It seems to be four Daz days after the day the tokens were earned.
Thank you, Richard.
[a little rant]
I like that "tokens are back by popular demand", but as far as I remember, "popular demand" also asked for a longer expiry date. Instead, it's shorter (only 4 days compared to 6-7 if you got tokens at the beginning of the week) which pretty much made me not care about tokens anymore.
I'm sure it's a great bonus for big/regular spenders (and I'm glad they're getting something for the amounts of money they spend!). I'm just pointing out that the short expiry date is a detriment to people who are not huge spenders but could possibly spend a little more. The other day, I could have easily throw in extra items (the "I don't really need, but they're nice and the price is attractive too" kind) into my cart to get one more token, but in the end, I didn't, and I even deleted a few extra from it, because the tokens weren't an incentive to spend little extra: they're way too short lived.
I like the token concept. I just don't think it works with such short expiry date. But maybe that's just me and the pressure of short expiry dates just doesn't motivate me to spend more. Especially that "there's always another sale"... :)
[Another little rant]
Can someone explain to me why Tokens are so great? Personally I can't stand them.
- It's another factor in puzzling a cart together for the best deal, which already took up too much time as it was.
- Applying tokens can go wrong easily as you can apply tokens to a zero dollar purchase.
- It messes up Daz-Deals best price indicator, perhaps Daz-Deals should subtract a standard 40% of the best price since the introduction of the tokens, I know I will.
- It only benefits those that make at least a $10, $20, $30, etc. purchase regularly, folks that spend smaller amounts do not see that benefit.
- And last but not least: I'm not convinced we are getting a better deal in the end. Do you really think we are spending less because of the tokens on a product? I'd like to be convinced so I can be happy to about the return of the tokens too.
I don't think, I know.
Yesterday, my second cart was 93% off, 47 products for $90.31, ie. $1.92 per product, all released within the last 6 years and included 2 DO starter bundles and 2 other bundles.
Without the tokens, those items would have cost $150 even with yesterdays good discounts.
So how much did you have to buy to get the Tokens to get you those tokens? Would it still be a great deal if you add those costs?
And 47 items in one purchase??!!...it just boggles my mind you found 47 products you wanted during one sale event that are a great deal, congratulations though. I guess I have different buying habbits, and tokens are not aimed at folks like me.
One token is earned for each $10 of purchase price (exept today one gets 2 for $10), and the tokens I used were earned with the first cart yesterday at 91% off for $81.65, 37 items, including a DO Pro bundle.
So how much did you have to buy to get the Tokens to get you those tokens? Would it still be a great deal if you add those costs?
And 47 items in one purchase??!!...it just boggles my mind you found 47 products you wanted during one sale event that are a great deal, congratulations though. I guess I have different buying habbits, and tokens are not aimed at folks like me.
I don't buy stuff to get tokens, I buy stuff that I like at a price I'm willing to pay for them, usually it means at least 80% off and max $3 per item, the tokens are just an added bonus that helps getting there and then some.
Any promotion needs to be win-win - if it isn't good for customers (more stuff for their money) they won't use it, if it isn't good for Daz (more money) they won't run it again. This is not a zero sum game, it is - fortunately - possible for all parties to benefit.
I'm okay with Daz making a good profit, I really have no issue with that at all. I think Daz provides good assetts at a very fair price, that is not the issue for me. But what I don't like is making things more time consuming and complicated than they need to be.
And you are kind of making my point, I have a hard time believing Daz would give up profit in order to supply us with the Token system. Not that I think Daz should give up profit (as I said I think Daz prices are very fair), but I wish they would make things simpler instead of making things more complicated.
I hope Daz does well, but I also hope we get a simpler customer experience that is less time consuming with a minimum amount of cart Jenga.
In the past, I'd purchase the most interesting (to me) PA items, often at 50-65% off, and relegated many, many "nice-to-haves" to a presumed long stay on the wishlist.
But now with tokens, 70-85% off PA items has become quite common - and I've spent a small fortune acquiring products that I didn't expect to purchase so soon. It's hard to pass up a $100 PA bundle for $15, or a $50 PA bundle for $9 (to use two recent examples).
Honestly, it's a bit crazy - I'm not spending myself into poverty or anything of the sort, but it does add up to quite a sum, and I've picked up so many new items recently that it'll take months (if not years, realistically) to scratch the surface of all this new content.
Note that I'm not saying "tokens are bad" - just that tokens have most definitely worked to motivate a LOT more purchases than I'd expected to make this year. I'm thinking of putting some hard limits on what I spend here because it's simply too easy to chain great deals with tokens. But it is nice to have so many of the coolest toys from my wishlist in the library now.
TL;DR - Tokens busted my already-precarious shopping equilibrium. Time to recalibrate, I think.
I know it is time to adjust my shopping here. Yesterday I checked what my DAZ purchases since my last payoff of my Visa bill was and it covers the time of the Token offers. A few dollars short of $1000.00. Nearly three times what I want to spend here. And then there is the issue that my retirement incomes may not be paid out starting on 1 June. So I have been wishlisting and clearing carts. Even for DAZ+ now.
And I have no idea what is going on, but today I noticed some prepared food items are going back up, after going down in the past few months.
So yeah, tokens totally sucked me in.
I've pretty much ignored tokens and usually let the few that I get lapse.
I did go in pretty hard on the buy an item of the day get a cheap bundle deal when it lined up with double tokens. The discounts stacked impressively.
I'm much more likely to go for - here's a bunch of stuff for 3.99 with no buy in.
I am LOVING the tokens! I just buy stuff like I normally would and BAM! (Additional) discounts of up to 30 and 40 percent - what's not to like?! It is working for me!
Your mileage may vary. Actual discounts are simluated and may or may not be available to all customers. Please shop more in order to pay less.
Same for me. I'm going to buy some stuff anyway. If that buys me to discounts elsewhere, then great.
I have a price point in mind for everything in the Daz store that is of some interest to me, and if sales + discounts (including tokens) helps something hit that price point, then maybe I'll consider buying it. If it doesn't, I wait for another day, just I have done all this time. ("There's always another sale.") Yes, I've bought a lot of stuff during the token promotion because an extra 40% off pushes a lot of things from "meh" to "maybe". If they end the token promotion tomorrow/next week/next month, I'm grateful for all the good buys. If not, I've bought almost everything in the store for which I have legitimate use/interest faster than I would have without it, but the end result is the same.