DAZ Studio 4.12 ... Face creation abilities????

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  • I really love the face transfer. It got my bone structure and complex perfectly. Can’t wait to make more. Thanks daz. 

  • I'm sorry, silly question.

    How do I use the free Face Transfer? I can't see it in Daz Studio

     

    No offense but this indeed a silly question since it has been postes 1000 times in this thread. 

     

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,120

    I was curious to see how it would handle a non-standard human face. Actually, it did better than I expected, but the eyes were clearly a bit too much for it.

    Jason

    LOL, that's awesome!

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,120

    It's still not showing up under Panes. I did the full install of 4.12. Still no pane. Moved my content from 4.10. Tried looking for the pane. Uninstalled 4.10, restarted computer, opened 4.12 loaded up G8M, selected Head, and there is still not Face Transfer Pane.

    The problem is you probably haven't downloaded and ungraded Genesis 8 Male Starter Essentials & Genesis 8 Female Starter Essentials as is required for Face Transfer to work. 

  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,051
    Gordig said:

    My guess was Rowan Atkinson.

    winkyes

    it is.... though I can see lots of others in it as well... lol

     

  • PhilWPhilW Posts: 5,145

    If you just look at it as a source of endless head morphs alone, it is worth the entry price.

  • AsariAsari Posts: 703
    This could be used to bring at least face morphs of older generations to G8.
  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,455
    PhilW said:

    If you just look at it as a source of endless head morphs alone, it is worth the entry price.

    Exactly. Creating new head morphs is much easier with Face Transfer.

    One can always apply different materials from already released characters.

  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,455
    edited September 2019

    It does not change the shape of the face at all, it just ads a texture to the middle part of the face and doesn't even wrap around the sides...

    Yes, I noticed that, too. Unfortunately, the face/head shape is the decisive component if you want to achieve similarity. But fortunately, there are now more ways to change these shapes.

    Is there a Mac version planned for Face Transfer?

     

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,202
    edited September 2019

    tried a painting

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  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,455

    tried a painting

    Very nice, Leonardo! wink

    FT may not yet be perfect, but it's fascinating...

  • jukingeojukingeo Posts: 711
    edited September 2019

    Here is my contribution using FaceTransfer.  The beautiful, fabulous and stunning "Queen" of OUAT (Once Upon A Time),  Ms Lana Parrilla!

    And this is the picture I used of her:

    I am SURPRISED!  I actually like the way she came out right out of the box with almost no 'hoop jumping'  I have to admit that I had to alter her mouth since it came out too thin which is everyone's complaint so far.  Also the nose wasn't right.  The eyes looked pretty good overall, and the biggest area I had to adjust were the eyebrows and I did some work in the chin/jaw area.  But overall about 10 to 15 minutes worth of work (not including render time).   Given that it is $50 for the unlimited version, and $25 on sale, I believe it is worth it.  I think I am going to get this, but I do want to try some more out.  But again, I want to test more renders before I make a final judgement call.

    I will say that I had to use two pictures of Lana before one took.  I guess the resolution wasn't that good on the first one.  So then I got the one above from a high resolution picture.

    A bit of a downside in the final render was that Lana's face is a bit shiny, but then again it is shiny in the photo too.   Lana is definitely in the #1 slot for a permanent face transfer for me.  I just have to find a front facial shot of her that isn't so shiny.   You can see I did hide a bit of the watermark using the Sassy Bob hair style.  I think for a first shot out of the box, she looks really good.  Definitetely better than my attempts with Headshop.

    There is another caveat that was pointed out before.   You can't close the eyes otherwise the eyelashes stretch out over them.  I am hoping Daz fixes that issue soon.  Naturally there are other imperfections as well, but you can still see who it is.

    Other than that, I like what I am seeing.  

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  • jukingeo said:

    Here is my contribution using FaceTransfer.  The beautiful, fabulous and stunning "Queen" of OUAT (Once Upon A Time),  Ms Lana Parrilla!

    And this is the picture I used of her:

    I am SURPRISED!  I actually like the way she came out right out of the box with almost no 'hoop jumping'  I have to admit that I had to alter her mouth since it came out too thin which is everyone's complaint so far.  Also the nose wasn't right.  The eyes looked pretty good overall, and the biggest area I had to adjust were the eyebrows and I did some work in the chin/jaw area.  But overall about 10 to 15 minutes worth of work (not including render time).   Given that it is $50 for the unlimited version, and $25 on sale, I believe it is worth it.  I think I am going to get this, but I do want to try some more out.  But again, I want to test more renders before I make a final judgement call.

    I will say that I had to use two pictures of Lana before one took.  I guess the resolution wasn't that good on the first one.  So then I got the one above from a high resolution picture.

    A bit of a downside in the final render was that Lana's face is a bit shiny, but then again it is shiny in the photo too.   Lana is definitely in the #1 slot for a permanent face transfer for me.  I just have to find a front facial shot of her that isn't so shiny.   You can see I did hide a bit of the watermark using the Sassy Bob hair style.  I think for a first shot out of the box, she looks really good.  Definitetely better than my attempts with Headshop.

    There is another caveat that was pointed out before.   You can't close the eyes otherwise the eyelashes stretch out over them.  I am hoping Daz fixes that issue soon.  Naturally there are other imperfections as well, but you can still see who it is.

    Other than that, I like what I am seeing.  

    Good render.

    One thing to do , to cut down the shininess. is choose all the surfaces. And cut Glossiness to zero. Then you can control what you want to have the glossieness.

     

  • I'm sorry, silly question.

    How do I use the free Face Transfer? I can't see it in Daz Studio

     

    No offense but this indeed a silly question since it has been postes 1000 times in this thread. 

     

    Still I think the question is rather legit since Daz put the Face Transfer under the WINDOWS tab?!?  Not the most obvious of places to look.

    Good render.

    One thing to do , to cut down the shininess. is choose all the surfaces. And cut Glossiness to zero. Then you can control what you want to have the glossieness.

    I tried that, but it seemed to only affect the body.  I think my issue was that the photo was glossy in the face and it just did what it supposed to do and transfered the glossiness over too.  That is why I was saying that I have to do one of her face that is not so glossy.   Thank you for the kind comment!

     

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,361

    To solve the eyelash problem not closing correctly, you might want to locate the head morph in the eye lash figure (it will be a hidden property) and dial it down (or maybe even off).

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,050

    tried a painting

     

    That’s brilliant... like “Night At The Museum”... only it’s the French version... “La nuit au Louvre”...

    The story centers around Marcel (Gérard Depardieu) a lonely alcoholic night janitor who discovers that the characters in the paintings at the art museum he has been transferred to come alive at night... they befriend him and teach him about life, love and human nature and eventually he falls in love with Mona Lisa, but soon she betrays him... Unbeknownst to him, Marianne (“lady liberty” from “Liberty Leading the People” by Eugène Delacroix) has fallen deeply in love with him and tries to save him from his depression, but Marcel becomes bitter and more alcoholic than before... soon after, he goes home to find that his alcoholic pet canary (his only friend in the world) has hung itself, he becomes despondent and returns to work to find the museum being robbed and when he sees the robbers carrying off the painting of Marianne, he suddenly realizes it was her that he really loved all along, he bravely wrestles the painting from the robbers but fall over a railing to his death clutching it as the painting turns into Marianne embracing him... as he passes away it is revealed that it was all a dream and he was actually an overworked Turkish businessman who was reading a pamphlet about the Louvre when he was struck by a bus on the way to work.

    Tell me that doesn’t sound like a real French movie?

  • Had a try at a well known person. Rendered in Octane.

    I think appropriate choice of hair adds, or detracts a lot from making a recognisable character.

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  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,050
    edited September 2019

    Had a try at a well known person. Rendered in Octane.

    I think appropriate choice of hair adds, or detracts a lot from making a recognisable character.

    Well... good job... but... isn’t the eye color different, and if it’s who I think it is... 

    Well... 

    TOS and what not... I’m restricted to commenting solely on the hair and lack of energy efficient lighting... I suppose... 

    I feel the hair is a good choice, though a bald spot or Moe Howard or Pennywise cut might be more fitting.

    I’m going to pretend I think that is actually someone entirely different... Martin Sheen... yeah... yeah, that’s the ticket... Martin Sheen. 

    Thats my story and I’m sticking to it.

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  • It is indeed Mr Sheen. Well spotted!

  • p0rtp0rt Posts: 217
    edited September 2019

    use headshop plugin and create as many as you like https://www.daz3d.com/headshop-11-win

     

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  • as I don't use DS except for minor things I thought I'd give the face thingy a go... to see if it can be useful for Carrara.. anyways

    just leaving this here to see if anyone knows who this fella is ( it ain't hard lol ) .... just opened DS default opened the face creator pushed a couple of buttons and got this.  frown  surprise

    Michael J. Fox? My second guess would be Daniel Radcliffe but he seems too young for all those wrinkles...

    This is not Michael J. Fox...lol.  This is that actor, Rowan Atkinson as Mr. Bean, correct?

  • PhilWPhilW Posts: 5,145

    @jukingeo  - to remove the shine that is transferring to your character, try editing the source image to remove the shine. A bit of cloning from neighbouring areas should fix it. I find that anything in the source image is then baked into the character - for example if the photo has a marked smile, then that is baked into the character and it is then difficult to have a non-smiling character.  Sometimes, editing the image first is going to be key to getting a good Face Transfer.

  • jukingeo said:
    jukingeo said:

    Hello All,

    Ok, I have done it, I have upgraded to version 4.12.   Soooo, where is it?  Where is the Face Transfer?  I can't find it.

    Also I have seen that they added the 'conditions' to the update page in which that you can use the program unlimted but it has a watermark.  And it mentions the three free saves without the watermark.  I am assuming that you do have control over this so that you can try out some faces and if one comes out really good then you can commit it to a save?

    Oh yeah, and the timeline got a serious update.  So I have something new to figure out there.

    Thanks!

    Geo

     

    Make sure you have the latest update for Genesis 8 Essentials.

    Load the figure.

    Select the head.

    Go to Windows menus>Panes>Face Transfer.

    My pane attached to where my tabs for parameters, shaping are.

    Got it! What a weird place to put it! 

    All panes are listed under Window>Panes(Tabs).

  • Richard,I am sorry, I haven't seen an answer posted, are the morphs created able to be use commercially?
  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,361
    Richard,I am sorry, I haven't seen an answer posted, are the morphs created able to be use commercially?

    Regardless of the DAZ rules, bear in mind that if you use a real persons image as part of your work, in theory you need model rights from that person. This is particularly true for celebrities who protect their image rights strongly.

  • Seven193Seven193 Posts: 1,080
    edited September 2019

    I guess the whole purpose of the plug-in is just to "sort of" copy someone's face "as is".

    I don't think it's possible to accurately construct a 3d face from a single frontal photo only.  I think facegen is able to do this because it's using additional information that we don't see, like a database of real statistics.  So, is Face Transfer using real statistics, I don't know.

    Face Transfer fails to detect abstract faces, like this.  I guess it fails on non-natural lines across the face, which is why I prefer manual input over auto-detection algorithms:
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  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 1,902

    Facegen is nowhere near accurate even with 3 photos. This is hard stuff.

  • Richard,I am sorry, I haven't seen an answer posted, are the morphs created able to be use commercially?

    We asked but haven't had an answer yet.

  • BobvanBobvan Posts: 2,652
    edited September 2019

    Where is the video tutorial please? When I click on it in DS it just sends me to the main store page & I don't see it on youtube

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  • davesodaveso Posts: 6,998
    edited September 2019
    Richard,I am sorry, I haven't seen an answer posted, are the morphs created able to be use commercially?

    We asked but haven't had an answer yet.

    Lawyers get paid by the hour

    Post edited by Richard Haseltine on
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