Brooke 8.1... Yes, finally ! ! !

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  • mr clammr clam Posts: 707

    Since I'm trying to be less negative, I'll pipe up and defend some of the marketing...

    Why can't a gal can't be a famous, middle-aged, gala-attending archer who is a news anchor in the business industry? She exudes confidence, people! I'd give anything to be her arm candy at a local charity event and/or the hottest brunch spot! Brooke abides! She's confident (did I mention that already?) and she has pets!!  And, most importantly, Brooke is a career professional, not one of those professionals with no career! 

    Bow down before the awesome confidence of Brooke 8.1...she can bring home the bacon AND fry it up in a pan! 

  • ArkadySkiesArkadySkies Posts: 206
    edited April 2021

    Any reasonable person familiar with the Hunger Games reference would expect a dystopian/scifi/apocalyptic theme, not historical and fantasy. I have Asperger's so I have to ask, is Daz making a fat joke here, because the only thing in the bundle vaguely connected to the Hunger Games is the archery stuff and those promos are OBVIOUSLY Merida inspired, and these are very different stories, in very different genres, with very different aesthetics. If trademark were the issue, I'd expect them to change the slogan, not the content. I don't think they'd want to make a fat joke about their first season pass character reveal, but I don't know what else they could be aiming when giving the larger girl's fantasy/historical themed bundle a random reference to a completely unrelated franchise with "hunger" in the name.

    I'm also confused how eye lashes ended up in the bundle.

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  • LinwellyLinwelly Posts: 5,797

    I don't think they intended on a fat joke with that but I see where that thought is coming from. When I read the hunger games reference I expected someting more dystopian as well. I think it's just all jumbled up

  • JabbaJabba Posts: 1,458
    edited April 2021

    Here's 70% Brooke, with a bit of cleavage added and a bit more butt... face also has 30% Fredda.

    The texture is the Brooke default "add all maps" option... DAZ should have a word with their promo artists to stop messing too much with saturation settings etc - I don't see the skin being "bad" at all, but more specialised than the typical "perfect 10" characters.

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  • HylasHylas Posts: 4,790

    ArkadySkies said:

    Any reasonable person familiar with the Hunger Games reference would expect a dystopian/scifi/apocalyptic theme, not historical and fantasy. I have Asperger's so I have to ask, is Daz making a fat joke here, because the only thing in the bundle vaguely connected to the Hunger Games is the archery stuff and those promos are OBVIOUSLY Merida inspired, and these are very different stories, in very different genres, with very different aesthetics. If trademark were the issue, I'd expect them to change the slogan, not the content. I don't think they'd want to make a fat joke about their first season pass character reveal, but I don't know what else they could be aiming when giving the larger girl's fantasy/historical themed bundle a random reference to a completely unrelated franchise with "hunger" in the name.

    I'm also confused how eye lashes ended up in the bundle.

    I don´t think it´s meant to be a fat joke. I think the "Hunger Games" tagline is a poor choice that makes little sense, but I don´t think they´re trying to be cute here. The marketing for this character has been scattershot from the start.

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,591

    It's amazes me how some can see something out of so little. I see archery and see hunger games, makes sense to me and see no point in overthinking it. I can take any 3d character and put them in any stereotypical and/or offensive scenario I want if I so choose, so DAZs marketing speak has no influence on my usage..

  • CHWTCHWT Posts: 1,138

    It's amazes me how some can see something out of so little. I see archery and see hunger games, makes sense to me and see no point in overthinking it. I can take any 3d character and put them in any stereotypical and/or offensive scenario I want if I so choose, so DAZs marketing speak has no influence on my usage..

    but definitely not the smartest choice of words. My first impression was "oops, it might rub some people in the wrong way"
  • davesodaveso Posts: 6,449

    FSMCDesigns said:

    It's amazes me how some can see something out of so little. I see archery and see hunger games, makes sense to me and see no point in overthinking it. I can take any 3d character and put them in any stereotypical and/or offensive scenario I want if I so choose, so DAZs marketing speak has no influence on my usage..

    yep.  

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,388
    edited April 2021

    mr clam said:

    Since I'm trying to be less negative, I'll pipe up and defend some of the marketing...

    Why can't a gal can't be a famous, middle-aged, gala-attending archer who is a news anchor in the business industry? She exudes confidence, people! I'd give anything to be her arm candy at a local charity event and/or the hottest brunch spot! Brooke abides! She's confident (did I mention that already?) and she has pets!!  And, most importantly, Brooke is a career professional, not one of those professionals with no career! 

    Bow down before the awesome confidence of Brooke 8.1...she can bring home the bacon AND fry it up in a pan! 

    Of course she can and she should be and do all of the above, no matter what age or weight. It just doesn't seem too realistic, no? I mean, I don't ever see any women like that being anchor women on US TV (or any other news stations, for that matter), and I find it really hard to imagine a Manhattanite socialite with that kind of figure as well (and so little Botoxed). So in my view, the figure and the marketing just don't go together at all. I think the figure is quite nice, I would have given her a friendlier face maybe, but apparently marketing just didn't know what to do with a middle aged woman like that and so made up some very crude stories that just don't match the figure at all. How about a lawyer next time, or a doc, or a gardener, or a Mum? Just sayin. These are the kinds of people I'd like to see more of in the store, anyway. Not much of a glam type, me, but that's personal taste of course.

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  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 6,742

    mr clam said:

    memcneil70 said:

    Spike high heels, not just on a fighting outfit, but a winter outfit for walking in the snow and ice! PAs, I am respectively asking you to think through reality.

    I often wear high heels in the snow and ice. The spikes act as crampons, allowing for easier negotiation through rough terrain.

    LOL, the first year Paris Hilton went to the Sundance Film Festival, she showed up in basically LA clothes, open midriff, and was walking in the snow in open toe high heeled sandals. She wasn’t that famous yet outside of LA and the Park City Utah locals had no idea who she was and thought she was nuts. Which I guess she was... It was kind of funny to watch as she had no paparazzi and the locals just laughed at her. Now SHE was a socialite famous for just being famous but I give her props as she also turned into a savvy business woman. Maybe this is what the convoluted Daz marketing was trying to say? 

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  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,591
    edited April 2021

     

    CHWT said:

    FSMCDesigns said:

    It's amazes me how some can see something out of so little. I see archery and see hunger games, makes sense to me and see no point in overthinking it. I can take any 3d character and put them in any stereotypical and/or offensive scenario I want if I so choose, so DAZs marketing speak has no influence on my usage..

    but definitely not the smartest choice of words. My first impression was "oops, it might rub some people in the wrong way"

    Not mine, since people get offended over anything these days, so I don't worry about it

    Nice render Wil

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  • DustRiderDustRider Posts: 2,691

    Maybe I'm being a bit pedantic, but using/licensing the "HUNGER GAMES" trademark for what seems to be a rather run of the mill bundle would be rather expensive wouldn't it? I would think that they would have a really impressive bundle to ensure they recoup the licensing costs? There are some very nice items in the bundle, but nothing that really makes it a must have (at least for me). Maybe just using the name in the promotional title for todays sale, and not on the bundle made it affordable - i.e. only displayed for 3-5 days. Of course my understanding of trademarks and their use could be way off, so maybe there was no need to license it (maybe its restricted to certain fonts, or possibly "THE" need to be with it).

    Anyway, I really just wanted to compliment those who have posted renders for Brooke 8.1. I still doubt I will ever purchase her, but at the right sale price in the future I might. Many of the renders in this thread make her look like a great addition for a unique character, much better than most of the promo renders.

  • JamesJABJamesJAB Posts: 1,760

    Regardless of the random assortment of stuff in her bundles,I think she is a fantastic mode. I was a bit suprised when Victoria 8. I came out,and she was only 5' 8.  Next Cleopatra came out and she was 5’ 4",and White Priestess is only 5' 7"!  Now with the 5' 6" Brooke, it looks like we may finally be done with the endless stream of 6' supermodels! 

    On a side note, I am in love with Brooke's "imperfect" body shape。

    Keep up the good work Daz.  As long as we keep getting more diverse body shapes for the core Genesis 8.1 models, they will all be day one purchases for me. 

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,301

    DustRider said:

    Maybe I'm being a bit pedantic, but using/licensing the "HUNGER GAMES" trademark for what seems to be a rather run of the mill bundle would be rather expensive wouldn't it? I would think that they would have a really impressive bundle to ensure they recoup the licensing costs? There are some very nice items in the bundle, but nothing that really makes it a must have (at least for me). Maybe just using the name in the promotional title for todays sale, and not on the bundle made it affordable - i.e. only displayed for 3-5 days. Of course my understanding of trademarks and their use could be way off, so maybe there was no need to license it (maybe its restricted to certain fonts, or possibly "THE" need to be with it).

    Anyway, I really just wanted to compliment those who have posted renders for Brooke 8.1. I still doubt I will ever purchase her, but at the right sale price in the future I might. Many of the renders in this thread make her look like a great addition for a unique character, much better than most of the promo renders.

    Titles tend not to be subject to trademark.  In the case of the Hunger Games there's a series of titles, so it's a bit trickier, they couldn't use "The Hunger Games Trilogy" but because copyright to the underlying work expires eventually, and trademarks expire don't as long as they are in use, titles of works can't be trademarked.

  • The Blurst of TimesThe Blurst of Times Posts: 2,410
    edited April 2021

    Thanks for the kind words about my renders... although it was mostly about Brooke's skin and adjusting it (especially for closer work where the surface of the Moon isn't so wonderful).

    Only a couple days left for this first Contest?

    Reminder for all of us simps... deadline is "April 20th 2021 11:59 PM MDT" to get those entries in.

    Ima probably use the cartoon version that I dialed up, even though that might mess up my entry as not-quite-Brooke. (She still looks like Brooke, even as a cartoon.)
    I'll also flock up my entry in various other ways as well, so I am good with messing with the shape a little.

    Artistic license and stuff.
    /Not like I'll win this one, anyway.

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  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 3,756

    Wonderland said:

    mr clam said:

    memcneil70 said:

    Spike high heels, not just on a fighting outfit, but a winter outfit for walking in the snow and ice! PAs, I am respectively asking you to think through reality.

    I often wear high heels in the snow and ice. The spikes act as crampons, allowing for easier negotiation through rough terrain.

    LOL, the first year Paris Hilton went to the Sundance Film Festival, she showed up in basically LA clothes, open midriff, and was walking in the snow in open toe high heeled sandals. She wasn’t that famous yet outside of LA and the Park City Utah locals had no idea who she was and thought she was nuts. Which I guess she was... It was kind of funny to watch as she had no paparazzi and the locals just laughed at her. Now SHE was a socialite famous for just being famous but I give her props as she also turned into a savvy business woman. Maybe this is what the convoluted Daz marketing was trying to say? 

    Everyone has a choice. I did look at the dressy outfit and thought about how I might use it indoors, but the lack of images of the pants was a turn-off.

    I guess regarding walking in dangerous terrain is a sensitive subject for me. I have fallen in the past when we had to wear high heels and platforms (non-platforms heels were not availble commerically then) and I twisted my ankles too many times, and that was when I was in the military and required to wear a formal uniform when I worked in a warehouse environment. And just in the past month or so, I have slipped (in snow boots) on ice hidden by snow and my head hit the pavement. Concussions are not fun. And getting them in the same location, two weeks apart, totally not fun. 

    Crazy people from warm climates have nothing on Denverites. I can't count the number of times I have seen folks walking into a store in shorts, tees and flip flops and carrying their babies in a diaper and a tee when the temps are at around 10 degrees F. Totally nuts. I have seen wedge heels being worn, and those women look just weird, mincing across the parking lots, then trying to balance on slick wet floors inside a store. 

  • Fragg1960Fragg1960 Posts: 354

    I like the character, not as a standalone mind you, but as a partial morph (not for face--just for body) for other female characters to add a bit more realism and move away from the unrealistic mannequins that tend to be the standard for female models.  As far as marketing Brooke as a fantasy action heroine (female archer/hunter thing), that was silly and unrealistic.  With her build she looks like she's wearing a bad choice for a Halloween costume.

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 6,742

    Fragg1960 said:

    I like the character, not as a standalone mind you, but as a partial morph (not for face--just for body) for other female characters to add a bit more realism and move away from the unrealistic mannequins that tend to be the standard for female models.  As far as marketing Brooke as a fantasy action heroine (female archer/hunter thing), that was silly and unrealistic.  With her build she looks like she's wearing a bad choice for a Halloween costume.

    Actually a cosplayer at a comic book convention! After mornings doing her newscast, then afternoons at her business and evenings socializing with the elite in Manhattan, she spends weekends at NY Comic-Con showing off her cosplay outfits, It all makes perfect sense! laugh

  • SnowSultanSnowSultan Posts: 3,507

    It's amazes me how some can see something out of so little.

    It used to amaze me, now it's par for the course. People must have not have enough important things to worry about these days, so they complain about absolutely everything that is anything but important.

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,301

    SnowSultan said:

    It's amazes me how some can see something out of so little.

    It used to amaze me, now it's par for the course. People must have not have enough important things to worry about these days, so they complain about absolutely everything that is anything but important.

    Like about what other people complain about. 

  • HylasHylas Posts: 4,790

    Folks are way off topic.

    In this off topic post, I´m complaining loudly about other folks being off topic as they complain about how other-other folks don´t complain in a manner they deem correct.

    Please feel free to off-topically complain about this very post, and how my complaint about other folks´ complaints re other-other folks complaints is off topic.

  • Fragg1960Fragg1960 Posts: 354

    Wonderland said:

    Fragg1960 said:

    I like the character, not as a standalone mind you, but as a partial morph (not for face--just for body) for other female characters to add a bit more realism and move away from the unrealistic mannequins that tend to be the standard for female models.  As far as marketing Brooke as a fantasy action heroine (female archer/hunter thing), that was silly and unrealistic.  With her build she looks like she's wearing a bad choice for a Halloween costume.

    Actually a cosplayer at a comic book convention! After mornings doing her newscast, then afternoons at her business and evenings socializing with the elite in Manhattan, she spends weekends at NY Comic-Con showing off her cosplay outfits, It all makes perfect sense! laugh

    You got me.  I've been to a lot of comic book/fantasy conventions and I can totally see Brooke as a cosplayer.  I stand corrected.

  • Here's my flocking dumb meme-inspired Kontest entry.

    In today's world, "business industry" is getting through a Zoom meeting in your sweatpants while the furbabies are complaining about starvation.

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 3,756

    LOL

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 6,742

    The Blurst of Times said:

    Here's my flocking dumb meme-inspired Kontest entry.

    In today's world, "business industry" is getting through a Zoom meeting in your sweatpants while the furbabies are complaining about starvation.

    She looks MUCH better as a toon! If I ever get the bundle when it goes on a steep sale and actually want to use Brooke, this is the way to do it. Love it! 

  • memcneil70 said:

    LOL

    I'm glad the humor comes through here... I had too many memes in my head, so I wasn't sure if I had over-crowded this.


    Wonderland said:

    She looks MUCH better as a toon! If I ever get the bundle when it goes on a steep sale and actually want to use Brooke, this is the way to do it. Love it! 

    Thanks! I think I'm in a weird lockdown mood, so Toons make more sense to me than "real people" LOL. I forget what real people look like indecision

    Brooke is a weird figure, a weird amount of "realism"... just a strange way to start this Season Pass, which I am still conflicted about. Between the ultra-bump skin and the overweight figure? I mean... at least Bethany's shape is voluptuous. Brooke is a weird amount of over-realism.

    I just don't know what to make of Brooke. The Toon version is the one that confuses me the least.

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 3,756

    The Blurst of Times said:

    memcneil70 said:

    LOL

    I'm glad the humor comes through here... I had too many memes in my head, so I wasn't sure if I had over-crowded this.


    Wonderland said:

    She looks MUCH better as a toon! If I ever get the bundle when it goes on a steep sale and actually want to use Brooke, this is the way to do it. Love it! 

    Thanks! I think I'm in a weird lockdown mood, so Toons make more sense to me than "real people" LOL. I forget what real people look like indecision

    Brooke is a weird figure, a weird amount of "realism"... just a strange way to start this Season Pass, which I am still conflicted about. Between the ultra-bump skin and the overweight figure? I mean... at least Bethany's shape is voluptuous. Brooke is a weird amount of over-realism.

    I just don't know what to make of Brooke. The Toon version is the one that confuses me the least.

    I have the news on my iPad when I am not editing, and between that story of the lawyer who had the cat face thingie during a trial and the very distinguished experts and news people zooming in from their homes, so many are brought to earth by cats taking over the keyboards during their segments, or jumping into an easy chair behind them, and not to forget the teen wandering into, then backing out of the room when he realizes he has just shown up on international cable news! TV during Covid.

    That is why I laughed. You caught this moment in time wonderfully. 

  • DAZ_ann0314DAZ_ann0314 Posts: 2,818
    edited April 2021

    I really like Brooke (I could be biased since my body shape is not too different) I do agree on the lips but with some morph dialing I managed to get some fuller ones and in fairness there are plenty of women (my mother actually being one of them) with thinner lips like that (Actually my own are fairly thin as well but I like to live vicariously so I did morph them) 

    On the Hunger Games thing, I think it comes down to the outfit making someone think of Katniss/Hunger Games. In reality though, to me, she more reminds me (especially her face in certain renders) of the girl from the Divergent Series (Shailene Woodley). Maybe thats just me but some of the renders really reminded me of her that I saw in the Gallery.

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  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,254

    Huh. 'Toon Brooke suddenly made me think of a character actress who played the part of Zelda Gilroy on TV. She did a number of other character parts over the years as well.

    The face, not the body. The actress wasn't overweight. But something about the face brought her very much to mind. (The character of Zelda Gilroy was about as 'Toony as one could get in a live action series.)

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