Oh, Misty, I forgot my Complaint Thread

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,035

    DanaTA said:

    LeatherGryphon said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    you assume an interstellar black hole was being referred to surprise

    Since the query was When you throw money into a black hole in Australia, does it flow down clockwise or counterclockwise?indecision

    it's obviously a terrestrial phenomenon 

    ...<snip>...

    And besides, "spinning clockwise" or "counterclockwise" is relative, and depends on the position of the observer, anyway.cheeky  

    All directions on Earth are relative.  If I stand here and point downard toward the ground, and you follow the line, it will come out the other side of the Earth and will be pointing upward!  cheeky

    Dana 

    ...in space there is no "up" (or "down" for that fact), it's all relative to the viewer's frame of reference.

    In Sci-Fi films, comics, .and graphic novels they apparently rarely think in three dimensions as they always depict space like a terrestrial ocean with all ships on the same plane and .x,y,z orientation.  

    I remember in the Wrath of Khan they finally referenced the "z" axis during the final nebula battle scene but the Enterprise and Reliant were still oriented to the same level plane.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,035

    DanaTA said:

    Bluemoon?  Never saw that one before!  Usually it's a ClodFlare error.

    Dana

    ...was this the "hold" music?

     

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,046

    kyoto kid said:

    DanaTA said:

    LeatherGryphon said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    you assume an interstellar black hole was being referred to surprise

    Since the query was When you throw money into a black hole in Australia, does it flow down clockwise or counterclockwise?indecision

    it's obviously a terrestrial phenomenon 

    ...<snip>...

    And besides, "spinning clockwise" or "counterclockwise" is relative, and depends on the position of the observer, anyway.cheeky  

    All directions on Earth are relative.  If I stand here and point downard toward the ground, and you follow the line, it will come out the other side of the Earth and will be pointing upward!  cheeky

    Dana 

    ...in space there is no "up" (or "down" for that fact), it's all relative to the viewer's frame of reference.

    The Ender's Game movie (and possibly the book, but I haven't read it in a long time) pointed this out.

    In Sci-Fi films, comics, .and graphic novels they apparently rarely think in three dimensions as they always depict space like a terrestrial ocean with all ships on the same plane and .x,y,z orientation.  

    Space battles in popular media are basically just naval battles and airplane dogfights, whether because that's what the audience expects them to look like or because making them more accurate would be less exciting.

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,252

    I just realized something.  When I get logged out and have to log back in, it goes to the previous page instead of the account home page.  I like that because I won't be reminded how broke I am.  I'm not a Daz+ member so I can't get the weekly freebies.

  • beregarberegar Posts: 269

    N-RArts said:

    How do you get someone to listen to you, when you know that they're not going to listen to you...

    This is super easy. Just agree with whatever they say or are about to do and generally show interest in them and their stuff. This works most of the time* as people usually love it when others support their ideas and are interested in the stuff they are interested in. This also works in reverse, so if you want someone to stop listening you, you can tell them they are wrong. As a bonus if you are in a mood for an argument you can push the issue which leads into a fight... I find this has about 98%** success rate.

    *It doesn't always work because some folks just don't want to be bothered...

    ** Also some weirdos are either perpertually happy or just very skilled at ignoring whatever you say to a point they stopped listening the moment you*** opened your mouth

    *** Genetric you, not you specifically

  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,094

    Complaint: Sick and tired of being sick and tired.

    Not really sick, just low on energy. Probably diabetes sugar fluctuation. I'm happy though, so anyway...

  • "Genetric"?surprise

  • ZyloxZylox Posts: 787

    LeatherGryphon said:

    "Genetric"?surprise

    I believe genetric is a combination of genetic and generic, so all(or any) of your family members?

     

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,050

    beregar said:

     

    Also some weirdos are either perpertually happy or just very skilled at ignoring whatever you say...

    Hey... that's uncalled for...  

    We prefer to be called "Normalcy Impaired"... and it's not happiness... granted, the manical laughter is somewhat misleading, but it's there for a purpose... mostly because of the the crazy stuff the voices in our heads are telling us is pretty funny, but it's also like the rattle on those snakes that rattle when you shake them or the demonic looking eyespots on the wings of vampire butterflies... it's there to keep "sanies" away... also, saying that ignoring others is a "skill" implies it's something one works on, when in fact it's just the byproduct of the voices being very loud... and demanding... pushy sometimes, actually...   oh, man... you should hear what they are saying now... actually probably not.

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,050

    LeatherGryphon said:

    "Genetric"?surprise

    Wasn't that the texture making software from Spiral Graphics... Genetrica?...

    I wonder whatever happened to that forum member ManlyStanley who used to post a lot about Genetica... ?

    Thats another forum person who dizzappered after the great migration and purge of 2012.

     

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,035

    Gordig said:

    The Ender's Game movie (and possibly the book, but I haven't read it in a long time) pointed this out.

    In Sci-Fi films, comics, .and graphic novels they apparently rarely think in three dimensions as they always depict space like a terrestrial ocean with all ships on the same plane and .x,y,z orientation.  

    Space battles in popular media are basically just naval battles and airplane dogfights, whether because that's what the audience expects them to look like or because making them more accurate would be less exciting.

    ...yeah, real movement in space is too precise and not "cinematic enough".  Babylon5 attempted to depict it more accurately with their Starfury fighters which used Newtonian vectored movement.  but still ships encountering each other were on the same level plane. Pulled out some old sketches I did when I was developing a story for an SF graphic novel where scenes of ships encountering each other were at various odd angles (particularly coming out of FTL) to each other rather then on the same level plane. Probably wouldn't "fly" with Hollywood

    Using fighter aeroplane movement in space is like cars exploding every time they're hit or flipping over when they hit the back of a parked vehicle in television and films is always for the maximum dramatic effect.  I've seen a number of collisions and car wrecks in real life and none of them exploded into a ball of flame (use of a petrol explosion) nor where the moving car flipped on its side or top after rear ending a stopped vehicle (accomplished in the cinema with the old "hidden ramp").  

    In short, realism is boring.

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,206

    TJohn said:

    Complaint: Sick and tired of being sick and tired.

    Not really sick, just low on energy. Probably diabetes sugar fluctuation. I'm happy though, so anyway...

    I hope you find some energy soon!

    Dana 

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,206

    kyoto kid said:

    Gordig said:

    The Ender's Game movie (and possibly the book, but I haven't read it in a long time) pointed this out.

    In Sci-Fi films, comics, .and graphic novels they apparently rarely think in three dimensions as they always depict space like a terrestrial ocean with all ships on the same plane and .x,y,z orientation.  

    Space battles in popular media are basically just naval battles and airplane dogfights, whether because that's what the audience expects them to look like or because making them more accurate would be less exciting.

    ...yeah, real movement in space is too precise and not "cinematic enough".  Babylon5 attempted to depict it more accurately with their Starfury fighters which used Newtonian vectored movement.  but still ships encountering each other were on the same level plane. Pulled out some old sketches I did when I was developing a story for an SF graphic novel where scenes of ships encountering each other were at various odd angles (particularly coming out of FTL) to each other rather then on the same level plane. Probably wouldn't "fly" with Hollywood

    Using fighter aeroplane movement in space is like cars exploding every time they're hit or flipping over when they hit the back of a parked vehicle in television and films is always for the maximum dramatic effect.  I've seen a number of collisions and car wrecks in real life and none of them exploded into a ball of flame (use of a petrol explosion) nor where the moving car flipped on its side or top after rear ending a stopped vehicle (accomplished in the cinema with the old "hidden ramp").  

    In short, realism is boring.

    I did see a pickup truck on its side on a high snow bank.  It was on Rte. 24 South, I was hearding north.  The snow bank was at least 5 or 6 feet hight.  I wondered how that truck got up there.  The snow bank was not a ramp, it was straight up on the edge, then level at about 5 or 6 feet up.  Never saw anything about it on the news.

    Dana 

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,503
    edited October 2022

    Space travel is really boring.  Even at half the speed of light, once you get about a billion miles away from anything, you can stare out the window for years and not see any change.indecision

    HOWEVER, if you happen to have a Mark-IV NLD (Near Light Drive) and can achieve speeds above 85% of the speed of light then things get weird.  You're rushing at a star so fast that the frequency of the approaching light increases.  Such that red becomes blue, blue becomes UV, UV becomes X-Rays, and X-Rays become Cosmic rays, and when doused by X-Rays and Cosmic Rays,  life gets iffy for fleshy creatures.indecision  And if you just happen to run into a grain of sand at that speed, your boom will be seen in a galaxy far far away, a long long time from now.sad

    Edited to link to really cool demo of travel at near light speed:yes

    https://gamelab.mit.edu/games/a-slower-speed-of-light/

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  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,252

    I am tired but I had a long day.  I did 3 main activities.  1) I volunteered at a kitchen 2) I did a survey at the survey place 3) I attended a fall party.  it is like a Halloween party except it is more for the kids.  I dressed up as a 90's kid.  Wait I was a kid in the 90's.

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,046

    kyoto kid said:

    Gordig said:

    The Ender's Game movie (and possibly the book, but I haven't read it in a long time) pointed this out.

    In Sci-Fi films, comics, .and graphic novels they apparently rarely think in three dimensions as they always depict space like a terrestrial ocean with all ships on the same plane and .x,y,z orientation.  

    Space battles in popular media are basically just naval battles and airplane dogfights, whether because that's what the audience expects them to look like or because making them more accurate would be less exciting.

    ...yeah, real movement in space is too precise and not "cinematic enough".  Babylon5 attempted to depict it more accurately with their Starfury fighters which used Newtonian vectored movement.  but still ships encountering each other were on the same level plane. Pulled out some old sketches I did when I was developing a story for an SF graphic novel where scenes of ships encountering each other were at various odd angles (particularly coming out of FTL) to each other rather then on the same level plane. Probably wouldn't "fly" with Hollywood

    Using fighter aeroplane movement in space is like cars exploding every time they're hit or flipping over when they hit the back of a parked vehicle in television and films is always for the maximum dramatic effect.  I've seen a number of collisions and car wrecks in real life and none of them exploded into a ball of flame (use of a petrol explosion) nor where the moving car flipped on its side or top after rear ending a stopped vehicle (accomplished in the cinema with the old "hidden ramp").  

    In short, realism is boring.

    On top of all of that, there's a severe inaccuracy that space battles in media have inherited from (modern) airplane dogfights in media: two ships involved in a dogfight will likely never see each other with the naked eye.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,035

    DanaTA said:

    I did see a pickup truck on its side on a high snow bank.  It was on Rte. 24 South, I was hearding north.  The snow bank was at least 5 or 6 feet hight.  I wondered how that truck got up there.  The snow bank was not a ramp, it was straight up on the edge, then level at about 5 or 6 feet up.  Never saw anything about it on the news.

    Dana 

    ...sounds more like operator error. 

    Now this takes real talent...or lack thereof.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,035

    Gordig said:

    On top of all of that, there's a severe inaccuracy that space battles in media have inherited from (modern) airplane dogfights in media: two ships involved in a dogfight will likely never see each other with the naked eye.

    ....we are getting there today, the F-35 can achieve a lock and fire a missile well outside the "threat area" of most current aircraft. 

    I also find single person starfighters another holdover from the past and current day, again for the dramatic appeal.  it's more exciting for the audience to see someone in a single small fighter craft dump torpedoes down an exhaust port and take out a moon like space station than have it be hit from the outer reaches of a solar system.

    If anything, small attack craft in the distant future would likely be advanced autonomous UAVs that could be easily produced and don't require a living pilot to risk his or her life. They would primarily be used as planetary or station based defences/operations.  Such craft wouldn't need a life support system or even cockpit and would be able to perform extreme G manoeuvres without turning the occupant into strawberry jam.

    Of course it wouldn't be thrilling for the audience as they need that young buck to go up against an armada or giga tonne battlewagon to cheer for. 

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,050
    edited October 2022

    kyoto kid said:

    ...sounds more like operator error. 

    Now this takes real talent...or lack thereof.

    That was likely caused by the car riding up one of the anchor wires (guy wires) for the pole... I have no idea what could be holding that up there, but I've seen accidents where the car hitting the wire gets launched pretty high and far... provided it doesn't break the wire or hit the poles too directly... in my old neighborhood a (drunk) guy managed to clear a 6ft chain link fence in a lot across the street and land sideways hitting the wall of the factory... when the police arrived they found him hiding in a dumpster in the lot pretending he knew nothing about what happened (he couldn't flee because he was stuck in the locked up lot and was too busted up to climb the fence).
    The fence looked fine except for it missing the top bar, which I suppose he hit... but at first glance it was a peculiar sight, with no immediate explanation of how he got there... aside from a few witnesses he almost ran over.

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  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,206

    kyoto kid said:

    DanaTA said:

    I did see a pickup truck on its side on a high snow bank.  It was on Rte. 24 South, I was hearding north.  The snow bank was at least 5 or 6 feet hight.  I wondered how that truck got up there.  The snow bank was not a ramp, it was straight up on the edge, then level at about 5 or 6 feet up.  Never saw anything about it on the news.

    Dana 

    ...sounds more like operator error. 

    Now this takes real talent...or lack thereof.

    Judging by the different color of that fender, I'd say it's not his first rodeo.  But it may have been his last.  Or hers.

    Dana 

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,050
    edited October 2022

    My progress on the recreation of Michelangelo's original sculpture of David is nearing completion... 

    Few people are aware that before Michelangelo was commissioned to complete his famous statute, a different sculptor, Agostino di Duccio actually got the job first... some time around 1463 he was tasked with creating a sculpture of one of twelve Old Testament sculptures destined for the buttresses of the Florence Cathedral. 
    Agostino didn't really complete much, basically just roughing out the base, legs and arms and leaving the rest as a big unfinished block, before his association with the project ended when Donatello died fighting Shredder's underling, the mutant rhinoceros, Rocksteady in 1466. 
    Most likely Donatello was directing him on the project, which is probably why after Donatello's death Agostino joined the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, despite being a Twenty-something Mutant Armadillo (technically the turtles weren't teenagers anymore at that point either). 
    Ten years later Antonio Rossellino (a Middle-aged Mutant Karate Ferret) was contracted to finish the work but his contract was quickly terminated for unknown reasons. 
    The unfinished block of marble sat around outdoors for 26 years and was subjected to a lot of weathering which was not great for such a big expensive chunk of white marble.
    Leonardo da Vinci (the leader of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles) was brought in to consult on how best to sculpt this enormous block of carrara marble... but he passed on the project because he was entering a Pizza addiction treatment program, so instead Michelangelo who was at that point 26 years old and no longer a teenager, but still very much a mutant ninja turtle, instead took up the work.
    Not knowing what Donatello's original vision was for David, and not wanting to take the statute too far from where he believed Donatello was going with the work, Michelangelo looked at the blob in the center, sporting only arms and legs and decided it was probably going to be a potato version of David, as Donatello's second favorite food after pizza was potatoes... after several months he managed to create what is now referred to as "Potato David"...

    The members of the Arte della Lana were aghast at what they saw, misinterpreting one of the potato's large roots as being the statue's massive wiener and insisted that Michelangelo resculpt a new statue with a much less gigantic member... they had the statue thrown off a cliff into the sea, but it would keep showing up at low tide, root pointed straight to the sky, taunting the guild that tried to destroy it... fearing that the guild would try to destroy the statue again, a group of art loving monks decided to rescue the statue, unfortunately breaking off the offending root in the process, the root was lost, but the statue was disguised with a hat and a fig leaf to hide the remaining segment of root. 
    The guild eventually found it though and it was thrown off a higher cliff onto rocks below and the rubble cast off an even higher cliff into the sea at an undisclosed location.

    Thus ended the story of Potato David... which Michelangelo later duplicated almost exactly in human form, sans huge root and holding a sling instead of a sweat sock.

    And now you know the true history behind Michelangelo's David statue and why it has a modest wiener.

    Isn't history fun?... 

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  • NylonGirlNylonGirl Posts: 1,803

    kyoto kid said:

    In short, realism is boring.

    I think this should be the new slogan for Daz3D. 

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,035

    McGyver said:

    kyoto kid said:

    ...sounds more like operator error. 

    Now this takes real talent...or lack thereof.

    That was likely caused by the car riding up one of the anchor wires (guy wires) for the pole... I have no idea what could be holding that up there, but I've seen accidents where the car hitting the wire gets launched pretty high and far... provided it doesn't break the wire or hit the poles too directly... in my old neighborhood a (drunk) guy managed to clear a 6ft chain link fence in a lot across the street and land sideways hitting the wall of the factory... when the police arrived they found him hiding in a dumpster in the lot pretending he knew nothing about what happened (he couldn't flee because he was stuck in the locked up lot and was too busted up to climb the fence).
    The fence looked fine except for it missing the top bar, which I suppose he hit... but at first glance it was a peculiar sight, with no immediate explanation of how he got there... aside from a few witnesses he almost ran over.

    ...years ago in Olympia WA, a 30' bus managed ot drive up the guy wires to a utility pole.  Amazingly the wires and the pole did not to snap under the weight.

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,050

    kyoto kid said:

    ...years ago in Olympia WA, a 30' bus managed ot drive up the guy wires to a utility pole.  Amazingly the wires and the pole did not to snap under the weight.

    A bus... now that's impressive.
    Its amazing nowadays though how often newer cars flip or go airborne, we grew up in time when cars were battleship heavy and rarely took off.

    Nearly half the serious accidents (as opposed to the comical ones involving clown cars or toon monkeys) I see involve one car flipped over.

    There are bunches of videos out on the internet of cars hitting something you'd never expect to flip or launch it, yet they go sailing through the air... just the other day my daughter showed me a TikTok where a car is probably going around 40-50 mph and hits a tire/rim rolling on the highway and launches into the air... granted the driver made no attempt to avoid it until it was inches away, but I'd never have expected that to happen.

    Then again I'm no one to talk, having flown my 72' Catalina once off an embankment on an incredibly short exit in upstate NY... but in my defense the 15 MPH sign was at the point of no return and where you would see it only after passing it on your way down... and clearly I wasn't the first as there was a clearing were most cars ended up... just a short drive through the shrubs to the road below.

    One of the things I notice too in accidents is the front wheels collapse which seems to be a factor in a lot of flip overs... being that when they crash cars in tests, they are mostly riding a rail, or running into an object they can't ride up...  I'm wondering if this is a safety factor that's being missed due to how the tests are conducted.

    Either way, seat belts and airbags are still one's best bet.

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,503
    edited October 2022

    If you're old enough to have grown children, you might remember when people fought against mandatory seatbelt requirements.  And cigarette smoking in restaurants.  And leaded gasoline.  So, it apparently is possible to change civil attitudes despite people's determination to kill themselves in ever more disgusting and/or gruesome ways.indecision 

    Now, if we could just do something about gum chewing.angry  Those 20 year old black spots on city sidewalks are not chawin' tobaccy, and will someday arise, merge, organize, and conquer the Earth.surprise

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  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,206

    I've noticed something in accidents these days that I never saw when I was young...cars hitting, and sometimes going inside, houses.  Most times they nearly hit people inside, I think one time someone inside was injured.  It's almost as though new cars are attracted to houses.  Sometimes storefronts.  But lots of houses.  Sometimes they travel quite a distance to get tot he houses, too.  Even small trees don't stop them.  Phone poles are often casualties.  And mail boxes.  It seems I see at least one of these every few weeks.  As opposed to never having seen one for at least the first 40 years of my life!  I actually passed by the scene of one of these house accidents just a few weeks ago.  And it was on the corner with a traffic light.

    Dana

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,206

    LeatherGryphon said:

    If you're old enough to have grown children, you might remember when people fought against mandatory seatbelt requirements.  And cigarette smoking in restaurants.  And leaded gasoline.  So, it apparently is possible to change civil attitudes despite people's determination to kill themselves in ever more disgusting and/or gruesome ways.indecision 

    Now, if we could just do something about gum chewing.angry  Those 20 year old black spots on city sidewalks are not chawin' tobaccy, and will someday arise, merge, organize, and conquer the Earth.surprise

    Yes, I'm disgusted when I walk around those spots.  Now and then, I spot a future black spot.

    Dana 

  • DanaTA said:

    I've noticed something in accidents these days that I never saw when I was young...cars hitting, and sometimes going inside, houses.  Most times they nearly hit people inside, I think one time someone inside was injured.  It's almost as though new cars are attracted to houses.  Sometimes storefronts.  But lots of houses.  Sometimes they travel quite a distance to get tot he houses, too.  Even small trees don't stop them.  Phone poles are often casualties.  And mail boxes.  It seems I see at least one of these every few weeks.  As opposed to never having seen one for at least the first 40 years of my life!  I actually passed by the scene of one of these house accidents just a few weeks ago.  And it was on the corner with a traffic light.

    Dana

    Perhaps cars are like moths, only they're attracted to houses and storefronts rather than light. I lived right next to a house that had a lorry plow right into it. The lorry destroyed most of their living room and even revealed pat of the upstairs. Left a right mess.

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,252

    I can't stand the political texts I get and I didn't sign up for them.  I wish I knew a way to stop them!

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,503
    edited October 2022

    I've noticed a trend on the local news over the last decade or so, of automobiles committing suicide by jumping into store fronts.  I sometimes wonder if they're just fed up with their drivers and want to end it all.indecision

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