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  • tombraider4evertombraider4ever Posts: 719

    Jay Versluis said:

    tombraider4ever said:

    I have a few questions: there is no autofit clone for G9 to G8, is there any such clones on 4.21 or is it the same? will there be clones later for purchase? Do anyone know if there will be a character converter g8.1 to G9 at some point? sooner rather than later as I love the realistic soft expressions, and the skin converter G8 to G9 anyone knows when that will be avaliable to buy? and head and body morphs and expressions, the base daz originals packs, when? And will there be converters both ways for outfits/poses/chs/ skins ect? love G9 but I need my Lara characters to work on it and all the TONS of stuff I bought for previous generations to work, just plain insanity if I have to invest all that again, and again when G10 turns up! Thanks in advance for answers about this! heartsmiley

    There is an autofit clone in the figure, but it's hidden. The autofit mechanism uses it (search for Genesis 8 Male and Female, with "show hidden properies" enabled in the Parameters Tab).

    I've heard that a 3rd party vendor is working on both skin and shape converters, but it's likely not going to be released for several months. Likewise, there are two pose converters I've tried that can use G8 poses and apply them on G9. I have no details on the release dates. I doubt these will work both ways, usually converters are designed to use older content on the newer figure.

    And yes, there will be Head and Body Shapes product available very soon, as well as an Expressions product I believe, those will add the sliders I've shown you in the streams (and they won't cost the price of a car).

    Thank you so much for the replies to my questions, I really apreciate it! heartsmiley  How do I do when trying to autofit G9 clothes to G8? I will have a hard time waiting to buy new outfits for my G8.1 character until I can convert them to G9, if I can auto fit outfits fr G9 to G8.1 I can still buy a few clothes to use w my G8.1 characters, will be hard to have to wait for months to buy new outfits, and I saw some I like allready today but it says only for G9. I'm thinking most will make G9 clothes only now. The skin and shape converter on it's way sounds amazing, Thank you so much for giving me hope to convert my Lara models to g9, I love the expressions on the G9, can't wait to see how my Lara will look on G9 and using expressions, and I will love using my fav G8 skin on G9 also. 

    Pose converters sound great also, the more G8 content I can use on G9 the happier I will be laugh, and the other way around, but I'm thinking that once I got my characters to work on G9 there will be no going back to G8.1, that's the way it's worked for me before. And morphs packs and expressions sound great also so I can begin playing w making my Lara. One question: the starter essentials for G9 works for me on Daz 4.15, will it be so for the morph packs? or do I need to update? I would rather not, can I use the beta 4.21 the same way, will it work w those morph packs if 4.15 wont? sorry for all the questions, I'm just so excited for how the G9 expressions looks, can't wait to make the move to g9 once all is avaliable, all convertersheart. 

  • CrescentCrescent Posts: 328
    edited October 2022

    I'm impressed by how well the clothing follows the body when the Base Masculine Body morph is applied. frown

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  • voicejdvoicejd Posts: 12

    I was able to download from my DAZ Connect.  I did need to search for the items.  Still waiting on Voss hair and the swimsuit but progress! 

  • DamselDamsel Posts: 384

    The pro products showed up in my download queu. So I'm happily downloading them.

     

  • stripe6499_9253833ae8stripe6499_9253833ae8 Posts: 134

    Not so fast. My pre order appeared too, but not the bonus items we were supposed to get.

  • Joaquim LopesJoaquim Lopes Posts: 46

    Well, Victoria 9 is missing in action in my Install Manager (maybe she doesn't like to travel or has missed her flight to Europe).

  • Pantros2Pantros2 Posts: 83

    Still nothing in DIM and, if there is somewhere to watch for official announcments regarding these issues, I can't find it.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,711

    TheRetiredSailor said:

    Robert Freise said:

    Haruchai said:

    For people saying there are no genitalia textures for the base figure, was there ever? Base (essentials) figures in previous generations didn't come with genitalia textures IIRC. The Gen 9 essentials pack gives you Genitalia normals though and like the older Pro packs Victoria 9 comes with those textures.

    True but they did come with a base texture in the Pro Pack 

    I understand both sides of this.  Sure, DAZ is entitled to want money for the anatomical elements textures.  No argument.  My only point is that if they are going to sell something then it needs to be usable.  Anatomical elements without the textures are not usable.  For that reason I feel that the texture should be included with either base textures (which it hasn't been before IIRC) or with the retail product containing the anatomical elements.  I realize that my opinion is not something meaninful beyond being just my opinion.

    An earlier post said that Richard had indicated that he thought the textures should be included.  Maybe this is just a launch day hiccup.

    I was told that there should be maps for the anatomical elements, I have pointed outt hat there are not by report and by the file list in the readme. I would think this is a slip and that it will be fixed, but I imagine getting the pre-purchase orders filled properly and fixing any outright product bugs are taking priority.

  • PixelSploitingPixelSploiting Posts: 898

    Only at Daz preorder you can pay to be able to download anything well AFTER anyone who bought it after the release.  cheeky

     

    Still nothing in the DIM and no, I'm never going to use Daz Connect as that thing is cursed.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,711

    UHF said:

    For the love of all things kind and fluffy, can you (DAZ) provide information on what is required to use Genesis 9 and Victoria 9.  Throw me a bone will ya!

    Precisely WHAT VERSION of Daz is needed.  Can you say that?  Please?

    4.21.0.x - the current release build or recent Public Builds.

    I don't have a week to figure out all that isn't said, but you might want to say what video drivers are required with that, I don't want to spend a week reading through all the past comlaints of previous daz beta versions. But driver issues rendering Daz useless seem prominent. [I wasted 1 week on this recently, so... for the love of all things kind and fluffy... help.]

    Are there any compatibility issues with Daz studio itself.  Does it in any way require an update to Genesis 8 itself?

    Is there any plan to make it possible to locate or even label Genesis 9 in the store?  Currenly searching for "Genesis 9" pulls up anything at random seemingly.  (So.. its not supported by the store yet.)

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 1,974
    edited October 2022

    Pro:
    Expressions
    Mouth and Teeth
    Eyes look so much better.
    Joint bending (well kind of. At least improved)
    Con:
    Gender Unimesh (hated it on Genesis, really don't like it on Genesis 9)
    Not enough edge loops.
    Missing base resolution details like nipples and navel.

    Like Victoria 4, Genesis 9 will be a figure, that works best for portraits only.
    Reminds me a bit of the META human hype, where it's all about faces.
     

    Post edited by Masterstroke on
  • Catherine3678abCatherine3678ab Posts: 8,329

    Well, the bundle has appeared in the Product "list" - but not the Voss Hair nor the extra bikini. However, all of their pages are not available -- java swirlies.

     

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  • digitelldigitell Posts: 577

    I was able to download all from the DIM. Once the images showed on my Product Library page, the were listed in my DIM.

  • The Blurst of TimesThe Blurst of Times Posts: 2,410

    Re: anecdotes about Victoria 9 being in one installer or another... (Connect, DIM, etc.)

    I just reloaded the Victoria 9 product page.
    https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-9-hd

    I may own the "bundle", but the V9 page still doesn't show "Purchased". I can still add V9 to my Cart. LOL.

    Aside from the "bundle" having the "Purchased" flag, I still own nothing from the bundle itself. Reminds me of the old "Toy Yoda" gag, or the people who buy a "laptop" on eBay and find out they actually bought a cardboard box that formerly contained a laptop.

    i.e. it's not a downloader issue. It's still something on their account/storefront database.
    Any fix should be independent of the downloader.

  • TheRetiredSailorTheRetiredSailor Posts: 260

    Richard Haseltine said:

    TheRetiredSailor said:

    Robert Freise said:

    Haruchai said:

    For people saying there are no genitalia textures for the base figure, was there ever? Base (essentials) figures in previous generations didn't come with genitalia textures IIRC. The Gen 9 essentials pack gives you Genitalia normals though and like the older Pro packs Victoria 9 comes with those textures.

    True but they did come with a base texture in the Pro Pack 

    I understand both sides of this.  Sure, DAZ is entitled to want money for the anatomical elements textures.  No argument.  My only point is that if they are going to sell something then it needs to be usable.  Anatomical elements without the textures are not usable.  For that reason I feel that the texture should be included with either base textures (which it hasn't been before IIRC) or with the retail product containing the anatomical elements.  I realize that my opinion is not something meaninful beyond being just my opinion.

    An earlier post said that Richard had indicated that he thought the textures should be included.  Maybe this is just a launch day hiccup.

    I was told that there should be maps for the anatomical elements, I have pointed outt hat there are not by report and by the file list in the readme. I would think this is a slip and that it will be fixed, but I imagine getting the pre-purchase orders filled properly and fixing any outright product bugs are taking priority.

    Thank you for the confirmation, Richard.  I totally agree on the pre-purchase orders filled being a priority.

     

  • GatorGator Posts: 1,294

    Masterstroke said:

    Pro:
    Expressions
    Mouth and Teeth
    Eyes look so much better.
    Joint bending (well kind of. At least improved)
    Con:
    Gender Unimesh (hated it on Genesis, really don't like it on Genesis 9)
    Not enough edge loops.
    Missing base resolution details like nipples and navel.

    Like Victoria 4, Genesis 9 will be a figure, that works best for portraits only.
    Reminds me a bit of the META human hype, where it's all about faces.
     

    OOF.

    I was hoping for more.  There have been a few Vicky 9 renders posted up from the lucky ones able to download her - the hands don't look very detailed at all.  I'm hoping it's just that they didn't have SubD dialed up enough.

    If the detail isn't there, I don't get it.  Why go to the lengths for the realism in the face, but then ignore the hands and other parts of the body?  The hands are awfully noticeable as people talk with their hands or are pointing to something, holding an object, etc.  IMO, the strides in hyper realism in the face are lost if the body doesn't match.

  • rayglendenningrayglendenning Posts: 137
    edited October 2022

    The Blurst of Times said:

    Re: anecdotes about Victoria 9 being in one installer or another... (Connect, DIM, etc.)

    I just reloaded the Victoria 9 product page.
    https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-9-hd

    I may own the "bundle", but the V9 page still doesn't show "Purchased". I can still add V9 to my Cart. LOL.

    Aside from the "bundle" having the "Purchased" flag, I still own nothing from the bundle itself. Reminds me of the old "Toy Yoda" gag, or the people who buy a "laptop" on eBay and find out they actually bought a cardboard box that formerly contained a laptop.

    i.e. it's not a downloader issue. It's still something on their account/storefront database.
    Any fix should be independent of the downloader.

    I have exactly the same issue, the bundle shows as purchased but none of the individual items or pre-order rewards are marked as purchased so there is bog all I can do until Daz fix it at their end :-/

    Some communication would be nice!

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  • babyeatindingobabyeatindingo Posts: 80

    Still nothing for me. My patience is wearing thin.

  • The Blurst of TimesThe Blurst of Times Posts: 2,410

    Masterstroke said:


    Con:
    Missing base resolution details like nipples and navel.

    Like Victoria 4, Genesis 9 will be a figure, that works best for portraits only.
    Reminds me a bit of the META human hype, where it's all about faces.
     

    Yeah, the nipple region lacks even the polygonal details of Genesis 3 and Genesis 8 (which were less detailed than the higher polygon-count Genesis 2).

    Thank goodness for third-party artist-vendors and all the thirsty sorts who support them.

    As said, it'll probably be a year or more before there's enough stuff on the market/enough of an ecosystem for me to switch over to Genesis 9.
    (Comment somewhat unrelated to the nipple comments above.)

  • cdotdkcdotdk Posts: 23

    It took a while for me, but they eventually all appeared. I think they're running some kind of script on our accounts.

    A side-effect for me was, that now all of my products show up in Daz Central with a purchase date of 19.10.2022. Not the biggest problem in the world, but still slightly annoying. For sorting etc.

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 1,974

    Gator said:

    Masterstroke said:

    Pro:
    Expressions
    Mouth and Teeth
    Eyes look so much better.
    Joint bending (well kind of. At least improved)
    Con:
    Gender Unimesh (hated it on Genesis, really don't like it on Genesis 9)
    Not enough edge loops.
    Missing base resolution details like nipples and navel.

    Like Victoria 4, Genesis 9 will be a figure, that works best for portraits only.
    Reminds me a bit of the META human hype, where it's all about faces.
     

    OOF.

    I was hoping for more.  There have been a few Vicky 9 renders posted up from the lucky ones able to download her - the hands don't look very detailed at all.  I'm hoping it's just that they didn't have SubD dialed up enough.

    If the detail isn't there, I don't get it.  Why go to the lengths for the realism in the face, but then ignore the hands and other parts of the body?  The hands are awfully noticeable as people talk with their hands or are pointing to something, holding an object, etc.  IMO, the strides in hyper realism in the face are lost if the body doesn't match.

     Do not confuse G9 and V9. G9 is the free base figure, V9 the character, you have to pay for.
    No risk for you downloading G9 and build your own opinion.

  • PixelSploitingPixelSploiting Posts: 898
    edited October 2022

    About a year, realistically thinking. Before the new base is truly functional. Far less in terms of clothing and hair, as those can be converted.But skin textures, HD morphs, etc, etc, will take time.

    Post edited by PixelSploiting on
  • cat_c12_b4236dcd4ccat_c12_b4236dcd4c Posts: 3

    Some of the basic V9 items just popped into my Daz Central downloader, BUT it looks like most of the stuff is avaiavble in the DAZ Install manager.  Those that pre-ordered might want to check that out.

  • bagnozbagnoz Posts: 17

    hallelujah ! I can finally download my bundle ! 

    God bless... wait a minute... triangle nipples ?

    What kind of witchcraft is this ?

  • nerradeelofgnosallnerradeelofgnosall Posts: 13

    Still waiting for her to appear in my daz central. 

  • The Blurst of TimesThe Blurst of Times Posts: 2,410

    Yes, database looks like it's sorted.

    Victoria 9 shows up as "Purchased" in the Store for me.

    https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-9-hd

  • alienareaalienarea Posts: 526

    bagnoz said:

    hallelujah ! I can finally download my bundle ! 

    God bless... wait a minute... triangle nipples ?

    What kind of witchcraft is this ?

    Skin pyramids LOL

  • KeikuKeiku Posts: 143

    Nothing yet here. Black box with spinny circle.

  • bagnozbagnoz Posts: 17

    The skin details are impressive though yes

  • TheRetiredSailorTheRetiredSailor Posts: 260

    alienarea said:

    bagnoz said:

    hallelujah ! I can finally download my bundle ! 

    God bless... wait a minute... triangle nipples ?

    What kind of witchcraft is this ?

    Skin pyramids LOL

    Move the slider for View SubD Level on the Parameters tab to a higher value.  On a setting of 3 they look pretty normal.  

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