DAZ+ summer sale--started. Same as everyday

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  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,252

    SilverGirl said:

    daveso said:

    I think that best sale is coming soon.  

    <Aragorn> "...but it is not. this. day!!!" </Aragorn> 

    Agreed! 

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,252

    @barbult I don't think any thought was given to practical use or behavior for the balloons. Seems like they're just supposed to be decorative props, stick a bunch floating around in a scene. At least that's what I got from the promo pics. 

  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 790

    barbult said:

    SilverGirl said:

    barbult said:

    Under what circumstance would you use the balloon groups as they are delivered in the product, at different heights with the ribbons just dangling down? 

    Maybe decorations at a school dance or a party or something?

    (Disclaimer: I never went to school dances, prom included, but seems to me I've seen something like that in movies or on television somewhere...)

    My issue with that is that if they are not tied down, wouldn't they all float up to the ceiling at the same height?

    Maybe they're meant to be anchored to a railing, or balloon weights, or maybe some of them aren't fully inflated?

    (I dunno, I'm reaching here... if it's the balloon weights theory, there should've been some of those included. I agree there should be an easy "bouquet" grouping.) 

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,727
    edited June 17

    SilverGirl said:

    barbult said:

    SilverGirl said:

    barbult said:

    Under what circumstance would you use the balloon groups as they are delivered in the product, at different heights with the ribbons just dangling down? 

    Maybe decorations at a school dance or a party or something?

    (Disclaimer: I never went to school dances, prom included, but seems to me I've seen something like that in movies or on television somewhere...)

    My issue with that is that if they are not tied down, wouldn't they all float up to the ceiling at the same height?

    Maybe they're meant to be anchored to a railing, or balloon weights, or maybe some of them aren't fully inflated?

    (I dunno, I'm reaching here... if it's the balloon weights theory, there should've been some of those included. I agree there should be an easy "bouquet" grouping.) 

    Oh darn, that's a grievous oversight by the creator ... Pity! But it got me thinking, didn't we have a product a while ago that made stuff like dog's leashes and such, with dForce IIRC, so you would just have to create a curve between two end points, and it would calculate the rest? I can't remember the name ... Maybe this could be useful for general balloon ribbon posing? Like, not just holding, but also dragging along behind oneself and such ...

    Edit: I think I meant this here: https://www.daz3d.com/stickychain-plugin. No dForce, so it should work with the ribbons if one fixed the loose end somehow, shouldn't it? Don't own the plug-in, unfortunately.

    Post edited by tsroemi on
  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,121
    tsroemi said:

    SilverGirl said:

    barbult said:

    SilverGirl said:

    barbult said:

    Under what circumstance would you use the balloon groups as they are delivered in the product, at different heights with the ribbons just dangling down? 

    Maybe decorations at a school dance or a party or something?

    (Disclaimer: I never went to school dances, prom included, but seems to me I've seen something like that in movies or on television somewhere...)

    My issue with that is that if they are not tied down, wouldn't they all float up to the ceiling at the same height?

    Maybe they're meant to be anchored to a railing, or balloon weights, or maybe some of them aren't fully inflated?

    (I dunno, I'm reaching here... if it's the balloon weights theory, there should've been some of those included. I agree there should be an easy "bouquet" grouping.) 

    Oh darn, that's a grievous oversight by the creator ... Pity! But it got me thinking, didn't we have a product a while ago that made stuff like dog's leashes and such, with dForce IIRC, so you would just have to create a curve between two end points, and it would calculate the rest? I can't remember the name ... Maybe this could be useful for general balloon ribbon posing? Like, not just holding, but also dragging along behind oneself and such ...

    Edit: I think I meant this here: https://www.daz3d.com/stickychain-plugin. No dForce, so it should work with the ribbons if one fixed the loose end somehow, shouldn't it? Don't own the plug-in, unfortunately.

    Oh, that's a good idea! I have that plugin. I'll try it. I didn't even think about it. I have too much stuff!
  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,727

    barbult said:

    tsroemi said:

    SilverGirl said:

    barbult said:

    SilverGirl said:

    barbult said:

    Under what circumstance would you use the balloon groups as they are delivered in the product, at different heights with the ribbons just dangling down? 

    Maybe decorations at a school dance or a party or something?

    (Disclaimer: I never went to school dances, prom included, but seems to me I've seen something like that in movies or on television somewhere...)

    My issue with that is that if they are not tied down, wouldn't they all float up to the ceiling at the same height?

    Maybe they're meant to be anchored to a railing, or balloon weights, or maybe some of them aren't fully inflated?

    (I dunno, I'm reaching here... if it's the balloon weights theory, there should've been some of those included. I agree there should be an easy "bouquet" grouping.) 

    Oh darn, that's a grievous oversight by the creator ... Pity! But it got me thinking, didn't we have a product a while ago that made stuff like dog's leashes and such, with dForce IIRC, so you would just have to create a curve between two end points, and it would calculate the rest? I can't remember the name ... Maybe this could be useful for general balloon ribbon posing? Like, not just holding, but also dragging along behind oneself and such ...

    Edit: I think I meant this here: https://www.daz3d.com/stickychain-plugin. No dForce, so it should work with the ribbons if one fixed the loose end somehow, shouldn't it? Don't own the plug-in, unfortunately.

    Oh, that's a good idea! I have that plugin. I'll try it. I didn't even think about it. I have too much stuff!

    If you feel like giving it a try, I'd love to know/see the outcome, have the plug-in on my WL as well. 

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,121

    tsroemi said:

    barbult said:

    tsroemi said:

    Oh darn, that's a grievous oversight by the creator ... Pity! But it got me thinking, didn't we have a product a while ago that made stuff like dog's leashes and such, with dForce IIRC, so you would just have to create a curve between two end points, and it would calculate the rest? I can't remember the name ... Maybe this could be useful for general balloon ribbon posing? Like, not just holding, but also dragging along behind oneself and such ...

    Edit: I think I meant this here: https://www.daz3d.com/stickychain-plugin. No dForce, so it should work with the ribbons if one fixed the loose end somehow, shouldn't it? Don't own the plug-in, unfortunately.

    Oh, that's a good idea! I have that plugin. I'll try it. I didn't even think about it. I have too much stuff!

    If you feel like giving it a try, I'd love to know/see the outcome, have the plug-in on my WL as well. 

     I used Sticky Chain on the ribbons in these renders. I made the ribbons white to show up better here. Sticky Chain is designed to make curves. What I really want for a balloon is a straight line going from hand to balloon, so it isn't the perfect tool for this application, but it sort of worked OK.

    G9 Balloon Sticky Chain_003_Camera 4.jpg
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  • ElorElor Posts: 1,345
    edited June 18

    barbult said:

     I used Sticky Chain on the ribbons in these renders. I made the ribbons white to show up better here. Sticky Chain is designed to make curves. What I really want for a balloon is a straight line going from hand to balloon, so it isn't the perfect tool for this application, but it sort of worked OK.

    I don't have the balloons, so I can't test myself.

    If you get too much distance between the end and start node of a sticky chain, the chain will be straight, so maybe you can get what you want by using a couple of Sticky Chain on each ribbon (I think it's possible to have multiple chains on the same object) ?

    Another possibility, if you have it (I don't), may be the Bend Manager from @Totte's first toolbox ?

    https://www.daz3d.com/code-66-toolbox--volume-1

    Edit: the wishlist offer is a bit disappointing, but it's require a coupon, so won't mess a cart for Daz+ members with Daz+ items in their wishlist.

    Post edited by Elor on
  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 790

    Yay! Daz midnight! Maybe today --!

    ...nope.

  • TotteTotte Posts: 13,911

    Elor said:

    barbult said:

     I used Sticky Chain on the ribbons in these renders. I made the ribbons white to show up better here. Sticky Chain is designed to make curves. What I really want for a balloon is a straight line going from hand to balloon, so it isn't the perfect tool for this application, but it sort of worked OK.

    I don't have the balloons, so I can't test myself.

    If you get too much distance between the end and start node of a sticky chain, the chain will be straight, so maybe you can get what you want by using a couple of Sticky Chain on each ribbon (I think it's possible to have multiple chains on the same object) ?

    Another possibility, if you have it (I don't), may be the Bend Manager from @Totte's first toolbox ?

    https://www.daz3d.com/code-66-toolbox--volume-1

    Edit: the wishlist offer is a bit disappointing, but it's require a coupon, so won't mess a cart for Daz+ members with Daz+ items in their wishlist.

    Only works of the ropes are rigged (has bones) 

  • AndrewJJPAndrewJJP Posts: 708

    Shape Splitter has been on my wishlist for a few weeks, ever since I noticed it a few weeks ago. Trying to buy it using "WISHFUL70" but the coupon code is "Not Valid".

    The rules seem simple: it was on the wishlist before today and it's less than 5 items, so it should count.

    • It doesn't work for other wishlist items either.
    • It doesn't make any difference if I add one of today's releases, although that doesn't seem necessary.
  • ElorElor Posts: 1,345

    AndrewJJP said:

    The rules seem simple: it was on the wishlist before today and it's less than 5 items, so it should count.

    • It doesn't work for other wishlist items either.
    • It doesn't make any difference if I add one of today's releases, although that doesn't seem necessary.

    You missed one crucial rule: it only works if the item is a Daz+ one, which is not the case of the one you're speaking about. Which make it not that useful for Daz+ members because most Daz+ items already have a better discount.

  • edited June 18

    AndrewJJP said:

    Shape Splitter has been on my wishlist for a few weeks, ever since I noticed it a few weeks ago. Trying to buy it using "WISHFUL70" but the coupon code is "Not Valid".

    The rules seem simple: it was on the wishlist before today and it's less than 5 items, so it should count.

    • It doesn't work for other wishlist items either.
    • It doesn't make any difference if I add one of today's releases, although that doesn't seem necessary.

     Code is only valid on Daz+ wishlist items.

    Or would be if it was working correctly. I'm only getting a few cents off each Daz+ item, and some don't get any reduction.

    Typical.

    ETA: Discount is off the nonmember price, which explains the tiny, if any discount I see.

    Post edited by miladyderyni_173d399f47 on
  • AndrewJJPAndrewJJP Posts: 708
    edited June 18

    Elor said:

    AndrewJJP said:

    The rules seem simple: it was on the wishlist before today and it's less than 5 items, so it should count.

    • It doesn't work for other wishlist items either.
    • It doesn't make any difference if I add one of today's releases, although that doesn't seem necessary.

    You missed one crucial rule: it only works if the item is a Daz+ one, which is not the case of the one you're speaking about. Which make it not that useful for Daz+ members because most Daz+ items already have a better discount.

    Oh yes! Thanks!

    Agreed, not a very useful sale for many of us, espscially as it doesn't stack..

    Post edited by AndrewJJP on
  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 790

    Elor said:

    You missed one crucial rule: it only works if the item is a Daz+ one, which is not the case of the one you're speaking about. Which make it not that useful for Daz+ members because most Daz+ items already have a better discount.

    And the current "better discount" is still lackluster compared to how deeply they often go on sale.  I've got a bunch of stuff on my WL that's showing $3 at 84% off, but I've seen it considerably under a buck more than once recently.

  • Rod Wise DriggoRod Wise Driggo Posts: 2,197

    Sorry, but todays "WISHFUL70"-coupon appears totally useless to me.

    - Took some stuff from my wishlist
    - Ups, coupon not valid.
    - Ah, only DAZ+
    - OK, have some 6 DAZ+ wishlisted, in the cart they go.
    - Coupon applied.
    - Significant price increase as there is no stacking.
    - No, thank you.

    So the coupon should rather say: Here's a coupon for you guys without tokens interested in DAZ+, but better check if it really helps.
    (from the 6 DAZ+ items on my wishlist, two had better regular discounts than with coupon)

  • doubledeviantdoubledeviant Posts: 1,128
    "Choose up to 5 Daz+ items on your Wishlist prior to today for 70% off*
    or up to 10 items with any Debut New Release"

    Could have been interesting without the underlined part. Makes shopping easy this week at least - no purchases on Monday or Tuesday (double tokens days) means no tokens, which likely means no purchases for the rest of the week since prices aren't attractive without tokens.
  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,022

    For a Daz+ member, the coupon is pretty useless.

    I have 40 Daz+ items left on my wishlist and 28 of them are even listed at better than 70% discount and if I were to put them in my cart, they would all get better than 70% off discounts without the coupon and without restricting the number of items.

  • I edited my post above to reflect the coupon doesn't stack with Daz+ discount, making it a really bad deal for members. Daz 3d is offering us members a chance to pay more than nonmembers for the Daz+ items we want the most.

    It is also out of step with the Daz+ Deals items, where the additional discount is off the D+ prices. 

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,727

    barbult said:

    tsroemi said:

    barbult said:

    tsroemi said:

    Oh darn, that's a grievous oversight by the creator ... Pity! But it got me thinking, didn't we have a product a while ago that made stuff like dog's leashes and such, with dForce IIRC, so you would just have to create a curve between two end points, and it would calculate the rest? I can't remember the name ... Maybe this could be useful for general balloon ribbon posing? Like, not just holding, but also dragging along behind oneself and such ...

    Edit: I think I meant this here: https://www.daz3d.com/stickychain-plugin. No dForce, so it should work with the ribbons if one fixed the loose end somehow, shouldn't it? Don't own the plug-in, unfortunately.

    Oh, that's a good idea! I have that plugin. I'll try it. I didn't even think about it. I have too much stuff!

    If you feel like giving it a try, I'd love to know/see the outcome, have the plug-in on my WL as well. 

     I used Sticky Chain on the ribbons in these renders. I made the ribbons white to show up better here. Sticky Chain is designed to make curves. What I really want for a balloon is a straight line going from hand to balloon, so it isn't the perfect tool for this application, but it sort of worked OK.

    I see what you mean, but still looks pretty good to me! Thanks for sharing. 

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,121

    Totte said:

    Elor said:

    barbult said:

     I used Sticky Chain on the ribbons in these renders. I made the ribbons white to show up better here. Sticky Chain is designed to make curves. What I really want for a balloon is a straight line going from hand to balloon, so it isn't the perfect tool for this application, but it sort of worked OK.

    I don't have the balloons, so I can't test myself.

    If you get too much distance between the end and start node of a sticky chain, the chain will be straight, so maybe you can get what you want by using a couple of Sticky Chain on each ribbon (I think it's possible to have multiple chains on the same object) ?

    Another possibility, if you have it (I don't), may be the Bend Manager from @Totte's first toolbox ?

    https://www.daz3d.com/code-66-toolbox--volume-1

    Edit: the wishlist offer is a bit disappointing, but it's require a coupon, so won't mess a cart for Daz+ members with Daz+ items in their wishlist.

    Only works of the ropes are rigged (has bones)

    The ribbons on the balloons are rigged. That is how I am able to use Sticky Chain.The balloon ribbons have some controls to move (twist,etc.) all the ribbon bones, but that is not what I need. I would like all bones between the hand and the balloon to be straight, like the inflated balloon is pulling up on the ribbon and the hand is preventing the balloon from escaping to the sky. I want the end of the ribbon below the hand to drape down, like a limp string. I wonder if I could get there with the Bend Manager. I have that tool product, of course.

  • TotteTotte Posts: 13,911

    @barbult: Nope, it doesn't do that kind of inverted gravity thing, but a cool idea but I have no idea how to do that. Have you tried to simulate the balloons only using a dforce pin to stick it to the hand and then reverse gravity ?

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 40,994
    edited June 18

    miladyderyni_173d399f47 said:

    AndrewJJP said:

    Shape Splitter has been on my wishlist for a few weeks, ever since I noticed it a few weeks ago. Trying to buy it using "WISHFUL70" but the coupon code is "Not Valid".

    The rules seem simple: it was on the wishlist before today and it's less than 5 items, so it should count.

    • It doesn't work for other wishlist items either.
    • It doesn't make any difference if I add one of today's releases, although that doesn't seem necessary.

     Code is only valid on Daz+ wishlist items.

    Or would be if it was working correctly. I'm only getting a few cents off each Daz+ item, and some don't get any reduction.

    Typical.

    ETA: Discount is off the nonmember price, which explains the tiny, if any discount I see.

    ...actually it increases the price for Daz+ members as most Daz+ items are already discounted more than 70%.  Tried  it on a 6.99$ D+ item and it went to 7.50$.

    So just more of the same old "buy in" rubbish just like every other sale. 

    Not even anything interesting in the Lightning Deals, old stuff, hierarchal poses for g8.1, and skimpwear.  

     

    Post edited by kyoto kid on
  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,121
    edited June 18

    Totte said:

    @barbult: Nope, it doesn't do that kind of inverted gravity thing, but a cool idea but I have no idea how to do that. Have you tried to simulate the balloons only using a dforce pin to stick it to the hand and then reverse gravity ?

    No, I hadn't thought of that either. It is an interesting idea.
    edit: I tried it. The balloon and ribbon exploded into a big mess.

    Post edited by barbult on
  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 790

    One other thing I noticed about the balloon groupings that doesn't work well for a bouquet... balloons don't float separate like that unless there's some sort of wind involved. They all end up kind of squished together because they're all trying to go as straight up as possible, but the other balloons are in the way.

  • kyoto kid said:

    miladyderyni_173d399f47 said:

    AndrewJJP said:

    Shape Splitter has been on my wishlist for a few weeks, ever since I noticed it a few weeks ago. Trying to buy it using "WISHFUL70" but the coupon code is "Not Valid".

    The rules seem simple: it was on the wishlist before today and it's less than 5 items, so it should count.

    • It doesn't work for other wishlist items either.
    • It doesn't make any difference if I add one of today's releases, although that doesn't seem necessary.

     Code is only valid on Daz+ wishlist items.

    Or would be if it was working correctly. I'm only getting a few cents off each Daz+ item, and some don't get any reduction.

    Typical.

    ETA: Discount is off the nonmember price, which explains the tiny, if any discount I see.

    ...actually it increases the price for Daz+ members as most Daz+ items are already discounted more than 70%.  Tried  it on a 6.99$ D+ item and it went to 7.50$.

    So just more of the same old "buy in" rubbish just like every other sale. 

    Not even anything interesting in the Lightning Deals, old stuff, hierarchal poses for g8.1, and skimpwear.  

     

    Yes, in a later post I mentioned a lot of them jump above the everyday D+ price. I did have one of mine stay the same and several go down by 50 cents or less, which isn't enough to get me to buy.

     

  • davesodaveso Posts: 6,914
    edited June 18

    and there is no new DAZ+ item in the new release list so that doesn;t work either. Sometimes I feel like I'm getting slapped in the face at this place. 
    I have no DAZ+ items in my wishlist either. I never wishlist daz+ items. I usually buy them when released with the buy the 2 get more off, which doesn;t work in this "sale" either. 

    Post edited by daveso on
  • ElorElor Posts: 1,345

    daveso said:

    and there is no new DAZ+ item in the new release list so that doesn;t work either.

    The Daz+ New release works as a Debut New, activating the various discount (I didn't check if it worked for the wishlist items but it works with other discount).

    https://www.daz3d.com/pt-modern-apartment

  • davesodaveso Posts: 6,914

    Elor said:

    daveso said:

    and there is no new DAZ+ item in the new release list so that doesn;t work either.

    The Daz+ New release works as a Debut New, activating the various discount (I didn't check if it worked for the wishlist items but it works with other discount).

    https://www.daz3d.com/pt-modern-apartment

    cool. thanks for that 

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,727

    Ooooooh I'm so bored, this sale keeps dragging on and on ... No multiple banners for combinations, no BYOB, not even fun flash sales every once in a while ... And most stuff in my WL ist basically at normal price. What's the sense in all this?  I don't think I've had any worse offers this year than during this poor, poor zombie of a summer sale. And they keep stubbornly at it, don't change a thing ....

    Seriously, I wish it was just over already, I've gotten more fun out of playing in the store during every day sales than this June. Sorry DAZ team, but there it is ...

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