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Windows Defender is actually better than almost all of the possible alternatives these days. Don't bother installing any other AV (since in many cases it's bloatware anyway), Defender will do the job quite nicely.
They have already released a utility that allows you to ncontrol that.
See: http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-releases-tool-to-allow-you-to-block-automatic-windows-10-updates
I loaded win 10 pro on a load lap top this morning it took 31/2 hours., then I've been. playing with it., besides having a task bar I don't see much difference than windows 8.1 . I think I'll wait as long as i can before i update my big PC, there is a few things i don't like with win 10 , one thing that I don;t like is when trying to use the control panel to view added features that can be turned off or on. you have to do the Irish polka, kick a sheep and spin around 4 times to find. features settings, then most of which do not allow for being turned off, or limited options ,... I hate that WiFi networking sharing option , everyone make sure to opt out of that when you set up your network sharing , unless you want to share your contacts and WIFI-fi with the world , then after having windows 10 installed for 6 hours trying o learn figure it out . I got 2 important up dates. none of which gave me any options that i could opt out with a check box and there is no right clicking and hiding the update from reappearing,. windows downloaded and installed them automatically so i can see that being a very big issue if i was in a big render or rendering a animation and windows decides to update & reboot my system on me before i was done.. for that reason alone i'm holding off on updting my big desk top
did i ever mention I hate change..lol
Hi Ivy,
Thanks for the feedback. I know that in what I've read there are two options for Home users for updates. One is to allow the updates and reboot and the other is to allow updates and then choose when to reboot. So you may want to fish around and find that second option in the prefs so your safe.
deleted post - never mind, I thought all my programs had been deleted, but I think I found them all moved into a new folder. Wish Windows 10 would have told me where they went instead of deleting all traces and shortcuts to them first.
The same happened to me with win8 , it removed all apps and all installed content .exe files so the library was empty , I keep my stuff on different HD so at last my projects was not touched but main SSD was empty .
I did not had any luck with the instalation and tried already everything what they suggested from the error code page .. it may be my bios setup as I disabled Windows Fast Startup, need to check it tomorrow for the last time if not then whatever not going to spend more time on this nonsense , if you see how many people have issue with instalation in the M$ forum it is crazy
Well I installed WX on my sacrificial laptop; an Acer 7736G which was running W7 Home Premium. Installation took around 3.5 hours with no issues, although after that there were some messages about "We're installing some new features for you". Then, this morning, when I booted it I was asked to configure OneDrive. I had expected this whole process to fail dismally, but it did, in fact, work rather well.
When installing (if you plan to) I recommend that you DO NOT accept M$ default privacy settings. If you do then you will be authorising your machine to transmit back to M$ all of your keystrokes, searches, browser history, which documents you open etc. etc. (allegedly this is to personalise Cortana, the intelligent assistant, which - thankfully - is not available in Europe because it only understands American accents) ... plus you'll be sharing your WiFi passwords with everyone you know on social media. I turned the whole lot to off. There is NO provision during install to disable the M$ "We Know What's Best For You" (WKWBFY) update system.
A quick iRay render of G3F in DAZ Studio 4.8 worked fine (the laptop has a fairly old NVidia G210M).
Impressions:
No performance improvements over W7, but not worse.
Dreadful, dreary, flat colour scheme with monochrome icons!
New Start Menu is awful. Just awful. The only thing you can say is that it's better than the Start Screen in W8.
Worth upgrading? imho not unless you have W8 or W8.1 - if you have W7 I can't see any point because it's actually better (still).
Overall Score:
Installation Process: 8/10 (I was shocked by how well it went, to tell the truth!)
Operating System: 5/10
I will keep it on this laptop and hammer it but there's no way it's going on my "production" machine for at least three months!
My experience was that everything was where I had it installed before the upgrade, even my desktop layout was identical - right down to the wallpaper. In fact, when I first started WX, after logon the only thing that told me I had upgraded was the replacement of the taskbar with WX's minimalist, colourless, lifeless, flat bar and a dull grey rectangle next to the Windows button labelled "Search the web and Windows".
The upgrade process even remembdered that I had my speaker muted and kept it that way!
Rather boring, really.
It is what I have done yesterday because I could not reserve the upgrade... The installer gives you two options: either upgrading immediately or saving an iso image to burn on a DVD.
Um ... not necessarily.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-sinks-in-antivirus-tests-as-avira-bitdefender-hit-perfect-scores/
Not really , I run it for one month only without Anti Virus and I got over 200 infections from surfing the web and downloading some freebies
Thanks for the link. Looks like the server is busy though, download remained at 0% and not a single byte was coming in. Finally had to kill it in Task Manager (clicking the red X didn't shut it down).
Trying again now, but still the same it seems...
Prorbably also some with "Nothing happened"
Quote: "... if an update isn't working you can temporarily hide it."
Question is what "temporarily" means, in this case.
...well, once they work the initial bugs worked out, and MS gets flooded with enough complaints and bad PR cover their updating policy to the point they change it (I know, fat chance). then I may consider updating to 10 Home Edition (provided I haven't already bought a Win7 Pro OEM first to do my memory update). Most likely I will burn it to a DVD and do a fulk clean install to avoid the "where did that go to now" issue.
Cortina, first to go, I totally dislike personal assistant bloatware
Edger Browser, that goes too as I'm fine with Firefox.
One Drive, uh uh, nothing goes to the cloud.
Windows Security, I have much better.
Games, gone as well as they probably won't work since I use AdBlock+ and AdBlock Edge.
Acanthis, thanks for mentioning the Default Privacy Settings. I already have utilities to confound tracking while I'm on the Net. Last thing I need is for MS to have a lot of info and someone hacks their site.
As I mentioned the only reason I would consider going with 10 is because the Home version will support 128 GB and it would save me having to shell out 140$ for the Win7 OEM.
Temporarily in this case means until they put out another version. On the plus side, you can tell WinBlows to either wait until you're not using your machine for awhile before it's allowed to reboot, or have it tell you that you need to do it and stand by until you get around to it. So that's at least something. Pro does some other fun stuff, and you can apparently tell it to stuff its updates for a couple of whiles.
They gave me Home, and I plan to upgrade that at my nearest opportunity. Assuming, of course, that I can get Maya working again. There aren't shrieks of pain from all the maya users around the world, so I'm guessing most aren't experiencing large-scale problems. Although if I keep having issues, I see a rollback coming in the near term.
First Niggle:
Noticed that the date in the taskbar was in US format. Checked settings and found that M$ had decided to change my language settings from English (United Kingdom) to English (United States). Why does every single version of Windows insist on doing this extremely annoying thing? Especially, why does an in-place upgrade not preserve the existing language setting?
Second Niggle:
To change the language settings requires jumping from one settings panel to another; from the new "Universal App" tablet-style settings panel to the good old fashioned control panel, which you then have to navigate again to find the settings you need to change.
Because of this I am downgrading my previous upgrade process score from 8/10 to 7/10.
I probably am going to reinstall my major programs anyway. I don't like them being in that Windows.old folder and they also have broken links in the uninstall list of Windows now. I can't even find a link to After Effects that can be used as a shortcut (??) and my mail program won't open now either.
Really expected more improvements from this long-awaited upgrade. The best thing about it for me is the new calculator with metric conversions - that is cool, too bad it's so much uglier than the Win 7 one.
Are you saying that the upgrade moved your installed applications under Windows.old? On my system the only applications that are under Windows.old\Program Files and Windows.old\Program Files (X86) are Microsoft programs. All of my other installed applications (DAZ Studio etc) stayed exactly where they were.
Same here. I did have to reinstall Maya and the Redistributables, but most of everything came through intact. In fact, of everything, Studio was the thing I expected to break, and it didn't.
As for your second niggle, you can access the Control Panel directly, provided you can get a link to it. The "Personalize" settings when you right-click the Desktop should have it, but don't quote me on that.
As for Cortana, if you don't have an HD mic, she's disabled by default. Stranger yet, she's small and runs fairly lean-- almost nothing in terms of resources unless she's actively in use, and then she'll cost you less than a hundred MB of RAM. That said, she's integral to Search and Indexing (which is where she gets most of her information), and thus will be difficult to extract without crippling the onboard Search.
Edge is the new Infernal Exploder, except less so. It's considerably cleaner than IE ever was, and uses less resources than FlamingFennec for the same tabs. They also improved garbage collection, so what was taking 6GB last night at this time is now a hair over five. Adding a language is actually easier than before, if you can believe that :P
Forced reboot with no options for delay is ridiculous and I don't think they'll ever get away with that. I've always had my systems just notify me about updates, then I do them when it suits me.
I didn't even know there was such a thing as an HD microphone
- but, anyway, I'll take that as a piece of good fortune that I don't have one. The thought of a transgendered digital Bill Gates "helping" me to use my PC is probably just a little bit further than I am prepared to travel with Windows 10.
You can access the Date & Time settings from a link at the bottom of the Calendar. This takes you to the Tablet-Style Settings Panel, but when you want to change the language settings for Date/Time you get launched from there into the old Control Panel. Honestly, that's just a damned mess. You even move from one User Interface style to another in that process. It's sloppy and confusing and shouldn't be like that in a release version of the OS. AND this issue has been complained about for months, so M$ cannot be forgiven for failing to fix it. Still, it's not an Earth-shattering problem so I'll move on.
I tried Edge, but it doesn't have the edge over Chrome for me, so it can stay as a button on the FlatBar. I didn't see anything about it that inspired me; just more of the same old flat, flat, flat, colourless interface. Did you guess that I don't like the look of Windows 10?
Typical, with only a week to go until the big day (this was last week!) do I start hearing some 'horror stories' about Windows 10. First it was by ex-boss mentioning that W10 Home users woudl be forced to take updates. A check seems to confirm this, along with the fact the W10 Pro users will be eventually forced to take the updates (a tow-tier fast/slow track update system), with only Entersprise level able to opt-out.
Next it was something that had been niggling at the back of my mind with the wording, in effect, "we'll tell you when it's ready to install". No, actually, I want you to tell me when it's ready to download, thank you very much! I have a data allowance and 3GB is going to take a sizable bite out of it (as is the other 3GB for each of the other two potental updates). Just cancelled my reservation on this little laptop and will do the same with my main one when I get back home. My old laptop I think I will keep the resrvation on, once I have cleared enough workign space on the HDD! ;) (I was going to re-install Win 7 Pro on it anyway .. ;) I may still do so, just for the exprience of trying to find and use the recovery options!)
Then the kerfuffle with the nVida drivers (now fixed it seems). Breaking drivers is not the user-friendly approach I want to see! I tend to only do deriver upgrades when forced to do so (in around 20 years of PC-owning (first was a 386DX40) I have done driver upgrades maybe a handful of times, the last one being (ironically) an nVidia upgrade to allow a new version of Octane to work - "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" ;)
The 'share my wi-fi passwords with the world and his wife' thing is an interesting security issue, but I suspect it has been exaggerated and whilst I am happy to heave heard of it and will bear it in mind it does seem to have enough 'do you want me to ...' prompts to stop anything 'bad' happening.
Sad, really; Windows 10 sounds, on the whole, like a good step forward, but enough steps to the side to make me want to keep walking straight ahead for now and stick with W7 and W8.1.
Niggle 3:
I am FED UP with Windows 10 popping up random hints while I am working. The one that is really p.....g me off is "Press Win+G for the Game Bar". If I wanted to play games I would type GAMES into the non-removeable search box on the FlatBar!!!
That drops my overall OS rating from 5/10 to 4/10. If M$ had the time to write the code for these useless hints, then they should have been able to finish coding the settings panel so that it has a unified style throughout (see my previous post).
It's starting on a downhill slope now.
[Edit: Issue seems to be related to using the F3 key, from the Desktop F3 calls up the new Start Menu, but from within some other programs (that use F3) pressing it causes one of the tips to popup]
[Edit 2: Would you believe it? Win 7 really is spying on me - after posting that last edit I tried F3 again, but this time the annoying tip panel had miraculously gained a "Do not show this again" checkbox. Now that's what I call an Adaptive Operating System]
I double clicked on the Get Windows 10 icon early yesterday morning and a balloon opened. There was a VIEW link. I clicked on it and it said that all my programs were compatible with Windows 10. Wiped the sweat off my brow. Later in the day, I clicked on the icon on my other pc later in the day to confirm that all my programs were compatible. When I did, it said that Windows 10 was available. So I thought...what the heck. I went and installed it. It took about an hour or less to install. I like it so far.
I haven't had too much trouble figuring out how things work. Took me 45 secs to figure out where the shut down link went. I knew they were bringing back the START menu, so I knew the programs would be there. (I kind of liked the large screen that showed all the programs in Windows 8.1). But I'll get used to it.
I didn't uninstall my Webroot antivirus. I had no issue with it. It was still up and running and protecting my pc after the upgrade.
My programs all seem to be in the program files folders where they used to be. If this version is like older versions, then the windows.old folder is there so you can revert to the way windows was BEFORE you installed Windows 10. You can usually detele after you are sure you don't need it anymore. I usually use the clean up tool in windows to do that. That's how it has worked in the past anyway. But check it out before you decide to delete it. And always backup.
You can download once and create a bootable USB drive or DVD. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
Maybe I'm missing something, but my wifi is password protected, so I don't think anyone could use it...unless they knew the password? Or has something changed? My Linksys router has a guest account, but it also needs a password.
This article spells out some of the reasons I am waiting to upgrade. I think Windows 10 will be a very good OS but waiting for things to shake out.
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2953307/microsoft-windows/windows-10-is-for-suckers.html
Cheers!
New Windows will send out your WiFi password to all your contacts in Facebook, etc.
No, this is no joke.
Yes, it moved almost every major program I have into Windows.old and filled the uninstall page with default icons that give the "this program may have been uninstalled already" message if you try to uninstall them from there.
"New Windows will send out your WiFi password to all your contacts in Facebook, etc. "
That can be turned off pretty easily (especially when installing), and it doesn't send the passwords out per se (they're encoded and sent through Microsoft). It allows your contacts to connect to your WiFi when in range, but they won't actually know your password.
Not like we should keep that turned on anyway... ;)
My last few upgrades always move my stuff into the Windows.old folder. It's better to reinstall your programs because they won't function correctly if you just move them back to the Program Files and Program Files (x86) folders. Paritally any program that had needed Registry info to run is gone. Plus you may want to look at the permissions on all your files in there. One of the biggest niggles I have about that Windows.old folder is that they are all set to Read Only. When you have GIGABYTES of info trying to get it all set back to Read Write permissions is real PITA and takes forever and sometimes I've gotten "You don't have permission" notices.... yea, right, MY own stuff. I don't think so!