The I Miss the Old Days Complaint Thread

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  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,045

    Rezca said:

    @Gordig  -  how much do you know about C4D Cloth?    I only have the most basic of knowledge about it which is why I was super happy when I got one of Swidhelm's dragons to work with it,   but today I was going to use his Millennium Dragon wing prop  buuuut...  I set things up just as I did with the wyvern but its belting to places it shouldn't.  I'm bringing it out of D|S though,  maybe it'd be better if I fired up Poser11 and see if it'd export out better from there ...

    I used the old cloth system quite a lot before I started using MD. I made most of the clothing in this render just using C4D's cloth:

    My Cabbages!

    The new cloth system has so far only caused C4D to go absolutely nuts, even if I try to put it on a sphere primitive. X-Particles has a pretty good cloth system you might want to try.

  • N-RArtsN-RArts Posts: 1,493
    edited December 2022

    Back in August, losing our ex-stray cat to Saddle Thrombus taught me how life can change in an instant. These past three weeks have certainly reiterated that.

    I've just found out that Ash and Pikachu are leaving Pokemon... As much as I like Ash, I'm going to miss Pikachu even more crying

    My father keeps moaning about how tidy the kitchen is. I don't agree with him, but someone has to do it. That kitchen looks better when I go to bed, it's unbelievable the state that it gets into by day. There's just no need for it. Plus, I'm pretty sure my Mum would moan about the state that its in, if she was back on her feet.

    I'm tired, but I don't want to sleep... Oh wait... I think I do... Hmm... I wonder if there is anymore food that's out-of-date... Time for another scout around.

     

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  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393
    edited December 2022

    Gordig said:

    Rezca said:

    @Gordig  -  how much do you know about C4D Cloth?    I only have the most basic of knowledge about it which is why I was super happy when I got one of Swidhelm's dragons to work with it,   but today I was going to use his Millennium Dragon wing prop  buuuut...  I set things up just as I did with the wyvern but its belting to places it shouldn't.  I'm bringing it out of D|S though,  maybe it'd be better if I fired up Poser11 and see if it'd export out better from there ...

    I used the old cloth system quite a lot before I started using MD. I made most of the clothing in this render just using C4D's cloth:

    My Cabbages!

    The new cloth system has so far only caused C4D to go absolutely nuts, even if I try to put it on a sphere primitive. X-Particles has a pretty good cloth system you might want to try.

    Hmm I see;  I was hoping you might have had a solution for that dragon wing problem :D

    I haven't tried XPcloth just yet, I probably should - might as well get to know the program now that I've got a license.  Also, have had xpSticky cause crashes a lot, not sure why (Ofc, older version of Cinema so <shrug>)

     

    Compositing in Resolve has actually been kind of fun.

    Using wood dummies for the battle's been kinda funny, but I think in the future for a Final Image I'll put actual characters in their place. Someday :D 

    Good 'ol Millennium Dragon 2,  feels good seeing you in a scene again

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  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,045

    I need to get started on learning how to composite soon. I downloaded the non-commercial version of Nuke, but haven't had cause to use it yet. You're on R23, right? I think that still has the old cloth system, so I might be able to help troubleshoot it.

  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393
    edited December 2022

    Gordig said:

    I need to get started on learning how to composite soon. I downloaded the non-commercial version of Nuke, but haven't had cause to use it yet. You're on R23, right? I think that still has the old cloth system, so I might be able to help troubleshoot it.

    Oh they have a non-commercial version?   I hadn't really had much reason to use compositing programs for a long time, which is why I couldn't really justify paying for After Effects. Started using Resolve instead and its been something I've come to enjoy using. 

     

    Yeah still mostly on 23.  I pop over to the newest sometimes for a Remesher operation or to toy with Pyro a bit,  but I'm stubbornly sitting on 23 because I'm like "Aaaah but I'd need to re-learn stuff and recreate my fav layout again and aaaaaa"  xD  

    These were the models I was messing with.  The wyvern I got working fine with the Cloth, but the MilWings.. Not so much. As you can see in my earlier images it keeps trying to belt onto the second to last wing finger :o

    https://www.renderosity.com/rr/mod/bcs/swidhelms-mill-wings/75004

    https://www.renderosity.com/rr/mod/bcs/swidhelms-effloresper-decursus/83284

     

    ....Man,  I'm actually sad knowing that his dragons have been marked for Clearance... :(   I hate when DAZ/Renderosity products disappear, since then they're just...Gone.  No matter how much I want something that I never got around to buying or *thought I had but didn't*,  it's just impossible.  So when I saw those dragons go on Clearance I immediately rushed to get all of the ones I didn't have.  Save them from disappearing >:'O

    *Edit:  Oh and speaking of which, I just noticed one of his dragons in the background in the promo of this set here! https://www.daz3d.com/vrakaros-armor-for-the-minotaur-6

     

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  • hacsarthacsart Posts: 2,025

    A true Canadian complaint - Polar Vortex! - from Tomorrow through Thursday lows in the -30C range, Highs in the -25C range. warms up to -4C for Christmas, though!

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,045

    Mods, how would you feel about splitting all the C4D chatter between me and Rezca to a new thread in the C4D forums?

  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393
    edited December 2022

    Gordig said:

    Mods, how would you feel about splitting all the C4D chatter between me and Rezca to a new thread in the C4D forums?

    We could just goi and create one right now :P
    The Gordig and Rezca Megathread xD

    Or take it to Discord, if 'ye have it

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  • hacsart said:

    A true Canadian complaint - Polar Vortex! - from Tomorrow through Thursday lows in the -30C range, Highs in the -25C range. warms up to -4C for Christmas, though!

    Not just a Canadian complaint; it is forcast to engulf much of the United States. 

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,045

    Rezca said:

    Gordig said:

    Mods, how would you feel about splitting all the C4D chatter between me and Rezca to a new thread in the C4D forums?

    We could just goi and create one right now :P
    The Gordig and Rezca Megathread xD

    Or take it to Discord, if 'ye have it

    I think I'm gordig on Discord as well, but I haven't used it in a while.

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,045

    Man, the bridges can't be updated soon enough, because I got morphs working on a G9 (makes more sense to try it with something that can't be bridged) and manually connecting morphs on the main figure to morphs on the attachments is so tedious.

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,250

    Weather forecast in Raleigh.

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  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,501
    edited December 2022

    Charlie Judge said:

    hacsart said:

    A true Canadian complaint - Polar Vortex! - from Tomorrow through Thursday lows in the -30C range, Highs in the -25C range. warms up to -4C for Christmas, though!

    Not just a Canadian complaint; it is forcast to engulf much of the United States. 

    Memory Lane:  When I was a kid in the '50s and able to appreciate the snow for it's entertainment value, I seem to remember not just a few days with temperatures that low, but these days it's rare.  On cold days all the kids in our little village used to  walk to the post office building and hang out there until the schoolbus came.  Although, the Post-mistress (same age as my mother) would shoo us out on days it wasn't so cold.   That Post-mistress was, in her later years, the grande dame of our town.  She traveled all over the US attending Postal conferences each year, and had a child who grew up and moved to Japan so she made it there too.  Ooh, a smart, world-wise person in our little nowhere farming town.surprisecool  Back in the middle of the last century, we didn't have postal delivery to the homes in town.  All townies had a post office box and walked to the post office to get their mail(yes, people back then used to walk farther than to the end of their driveway).  It was a small office with a row of combination dial postoffice boxes and a single teller window.  Being at the center of the village all day, she was the person who heard and saw much of what went on in the town, and was who people went to for historical information about the town or its people during the '40s, '50s, '60s & '70s.  The lady with the fancy house and interesting items on display.  I can't help thinking that it was she, who sparked my initial interest in interesting items to collect and tell stories about.  Years later though, it was my partner who really taught me how to recognize quality, and collect things that had a story to be told.

    My mother died in '92 at the age of 64.sad  The Post-mistress died just a couple years ago, in her 90s.  It was the end of an era in my life.  She was the last of that generation that I knew in our town.  The town is much the same now, but the little post office is now staffed by new people with no connection to the town at all. indecision 

    Ah, the post office building itself.  It used to be the old wooden, green & beige Erie Railroad train station for the town.  My grandmother bought the building and in 1960 had it moved two blocks north onto her property, and leased it to the government as a post office.  Perfect building for it.  It had the ticket/waiting area, and a loading dock at the back.  Makes a perfect little post office.  Clever woman my grandmother.  Although one of my aunts used to say that "She never let a thought interrupt her talking."

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  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393
    edited December 2022

    Gordig said:

    Man, the bridges can't be updated soon enough, because I got morphs working on a G9 (makes more sense to try it with something that can't be bridged) and manually connecting morphs on the main figure to morphs on the attachments is so tedious.

    Will they ever though?  I was hopeful for a while but after another cycle of "Someone comes in, makes a little progress while breaking something else, then vanishes"  I've basically given up on believing they'll ever take them anywhere.  The only benefits is that they seem to be open source so if anyone with the knowledge feels like taking up the flag and doing it themselves then they can, but that feels equally unlikely.

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  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,250

    Today might be the last day I'm confined into my room.  Not sure if I'm going to program tomorrow or not?

  • Rezca said:

    LeatherGryphon said:

    Yeah Win7 was good, but it's 14 years old!  Win10 is no slouch, but he who goes looking for trouble often finds it.indecision  Win7 was good to me and I was quite at home with it.  Win8 sucked, Win8.1 better, Win10 after a few years has become a comfortable second home with no broken windows.yes

    I've got three modern, and three semi-ancient computers. The modern ones are running Win10 but are Win11 compatible.  The other three are blocked at Win10 but still quite useable household machines.  For how long after the cutover? I don't know.  But I'm not jumping ship to Win11 yet.  There's still another year or two of time for Microsoft to screw it up.devil  But at least I have my nest of Win10 machines to watch over for the next decade as they, like me, develop more wrinkles and lameness.frown

    I honestly can't remember what 7 was like, I've been on 10 for so long xD   As of current, the 'worst'  mandatory feature is  the Trending Now  search suggestions when I pop open the search bar.  Takes literally half a second for it to go away (Once I put in a single letter to start searching), but it can't be disabled. 

    Sometimes I wonder though what using Linux would be like nowadays;  I remember trying Ubuntu years ago because everyone was talking about it and all I managed to do with it after a few hours of trying to get it to install (And getting my uncle to install it for me once it was clear I was too simple minded to do it myself)  was pretty much this -

     

    Needless to say, I didn't stay on Linux for too long :P  That and kinda stubborn - when I use something for so long its hard to want to make a switch. Still happily running with Cinema 4D when I know Blender's free (And in some ways much more capable) simply because I'm far, far more comfortable in the former and have been using it for 10 something years,  and jumping ship to another program would mean needing to convert many GB's of files, materials, etc and needing to learn a new program entirely from scratch.  Totally not ready for that!  And, stubborn.

    So I'm not sure how old this thread is. But linux has come a long ways. I'm actually running Daz 4.20 or whatever the newest stable version is on Fedora Core linux v37. It's stable, and works like normal. The only drawbacks are when I upgrade Wine, I have to reboot after doing so. And once in a while, when my nvidia drivers gets upgraded, but my linux kernel does not, then dforce doesn't work. I've only had it happen so far a couple of times and figured it out. And then when you add or change anything material or figure wise (from the left side menu, not the right side menu) the Daz window goes from fullscreen to a quarter sized. I just maximize it again and everything is fine. I haven't figured that one out yet.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,034
    edited December 2022

    ...so it still needs to be run through Wine then.  AS ot the shrinking vewport, I use dual displays so the Viewport is on one and the menus are on the other.  Would Fedora and Wine support that?

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  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393
    edited December 2022

    Man,  this is frustrating.  Whether its via an FBX Export or through the "Bridge",  a lot of figures like coming in mangled like this. *Edit to add I've tried Collada and it didn't change anything either.

    If I reset the pose it fixes the geometry but the joints don't change to reflect that, which is just as problematic.  

     

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  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393

    Ended up having to do it by hand <shrug>

    One more step,  conerting it to xpCloth and it works.... Mostly xD  It binds to the figure fine, but then doesn't follow it.  Oop.

  • N-RArtsN-RArts Posts: 1,493
    edited December 2022

    I don't usually say it, but I'm so glad that the World Cup is over (I prefer seeing it in the summer). I'm not a huge fan, but least Messi can now retire as a World Cup winner.  yes

    I assume stress headaches are going to become more common for me. 

    I loved that pizza... But it didn't love me. 

    I really didn't need to see that. Thanks Dr. G**gle

    Why can't you just watch the film, instead of talking over it. O_o

    Great. My headache is back.

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  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393

    I speed-art'ed a dinosaur from a game I enjoyed.  Hour and a half including texturing.  I forgot the claws though ahaha~

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    Gordig said:

    Mods, how would you feel about splitting all the C4D chatter between me and Rezca to a new thread in the C4D forums?

    Yes please 

  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393

    PerttiA said:

    Gordig said:

    Mods, how would you feel about splitting all the C4D chatter between me and Rezca to a new thread in the C4D forums?

    Yes please 

    We've taken it to private messages now so that should be it xD

  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393

    Got a few things from the sale, but wasn't paying attention with one and got an outfit for Genesis 1 when there was a version for Genesis 2 available.  I guess it doesn't matter too much though!

  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393
    edited December 2022

    Every now and then I find a product that won't install properly within D|S,  and need to go to Install Manager for.  Was just casually browsing through DS looking for some older products to use, and saw that several (SubDragon Armor, Wizard Traveling Gear)  were <!> and couldn't be loaded. No amount of reinstalling or restarting changed anything, but a quick pop over to IM to do it there and it was fine.   At least I know that works :D

      Still can't get the SubDragon Expansion to work though,  got the CF Loaders and LE dragon and everything else, but the Expansion morphs just do not load  :/

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  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,250

    I'm emotionally exhausted.  I got into a big fight it seems with my landlord because I felt like he wanted me to throw everything away.  Including my Christmas presents for others.

  • RezcaRezca Posts: 3,393

    Sorry to hear that :'(

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,034
    edited December 2022

     

    Sfariah said:

    I'm emotionally exhausted.  I got into a big fight it seems with my landlord because I felt like he wanted me to throw everything away.  Including my Christmas presents for others.

    ...you end up living under or with people who seem to be rather unreasonable

    ...and what was that about being confined to your room all about? 

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  • hacsarthacsart Posts: 2,025

    Its cold! - 30C with a windchill of -37C ... should warm up starting Thursay, so there is hope..

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,206

    hacsart said:

    Its cold! - 30C with a windchill of -37C ... should warm up starting Thursay, so there is hope..

    surprise   surprise  surprise  

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